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If you are regularly gigging, develop a loyal following and release to Bandcamp or other platforms that actually pay artists, you might make a few bucks depending on how well you can convert followers to paying consumers. Phil Keagy does this and it’s at least worth his time.
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No. You have to love the process. If you are looking for monetary rewards, this is a waste of time.
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This is a fantastic post and you won’t regret just following it, @Lurch. I will say, you have a lot to learn. Meaning, every one of these things has a learning curve associated with it. So I would recommend starting small, leverage things that you have and already know that will suffice for now (like your PA for monitors to start), and throttle the number of deep wells you have to explore before actually getting to making music. Which, imo, is the most important thing for you to do. Just start making your music. Not 3 months from now after accruing and deep diving on a lot of things. I mean next week with an interface, your PA, a DAW and stock plugins. You’ll encounter obstacles and feel pain in the process. Bring them here for ideas on how to mitigate them through various means. Let the problems you encounter making your personal music be your guide as to what more you need.
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Gonna quote myself like a douche, because I think one thing this anecdote illustrates is that there are often multiple ways to address a problem. My problem was "how do I get acceptable mixes in a shitty room?" Well, one way is to make my room not shitty. Make all the physical changes that need to be made, which might include needing a completely new room without hard and poor limitations. The other way is a software solution, that Waves plugin in this specific case, which is usually much cheaper and faster. Is it as good as actually incurring the expense and taking the time to make the space I mix in not shitty? Absolutely not. But it is an acceptable compromise for me (YMMV) at a much cheaper cost in money and time that would otherwise be spent making music.
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That’s cool, @sidis and I have done a fair number of distributed collaborations. We can describe what has worked (and what hasn’t) for us when/if you want it.
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For the people here who make your own music, there is a new thread you might want to tune into. https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/49971-music-makers/
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So, from the original post: "Developing Playing & Singing Skills - recommendations and progress around learning to play and sing" Currently investing time trying to develop my voice to whatever degree I can. I had "Brett Manning Singing Success 360" recommended to me by someone who used it to develop their voice, and I'll be dammed if it isn't helping. Its not cheap, but its helping and has the option for 1 on 1 lessons online or with a certified vocal coach locally. I'd be curious what others have done to jumpstart their vocal development. Singing SuccessSinging Success 360 - Singing SuccessToday, you can start a vocal program that will give you the voice you’ve always dreamed of. You’ll build a strong foundation with good techniques that will keep you singing for years to come. Singing
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Paging Dr @sidis to the white courtesy phone.
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I think they are both great, but Universal Audio wins in the recording context, imo. Tonex is better for a live rig. When I get back to focusing on recording I’m going to buy it. One thing that is nice about the UA emulations is that there are no dead tones. It’s all good. Tonex has the crowdsource model for a library of sounds and 75% of what the crowd sources are not worth your time.
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The hot new thing on the block in this regard is Paradise Guitar Studio from Universal Audio. I have demoed it, and its good. At only $149, its not going to break the bank.
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So I spent a fair amount on Adams A7X and T10S subwoofer. Pretty good home studio monitors. Over time, I found my best mixes were with a decent set of headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro) and the Waves CLA Nx plugin that takes your headphones known EQ and shapes it to match Chris Lord Alge's studio so that you are kinda-sorta transported into a non-shitty room. https://www.waves.com/plugins/cla-nx The reason? My room sucks. Eventually, those fancy monitors that cost 5-8 times as much as the headphones and plugin became just being used for tracking. I still might reference them mixing, but only after I get a good mix in the headphones and plugin and am just checking it out on other speakers and tweaking. So I sold those monitors and the sub and have my performance PA set up as monitors for tracking. I use the headphones and CLA NX plugin for mixing, and cross reference on the PA, laptop and car speakers. For my needs in this shitty 12x12 box that will never be great acoustically, those monitors were not the best allocation of resources. So I would say start with what you have, wait for the need for something more to emerge.
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Focusrite Scarlett is a good entry level interface that will serve you well as you get into it. You might outgrow it, but starting out, you don’t want to invest a ton as you figure out what directions you want to go. To that end, I’d recommend buying used gear at a used price that you can resell later at a similar used price if you ever outgrow it. Buying new, you will almost always take a significant loss on resale.
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So no idea about that specifically, but the minimal things you need for a home recording/music making space are: An instrument (includes your voice) and the ability to operate it A computer DAW software to record with in your computer (this is your mixing board and tape recorder in software form) Hardware to get your sounds into the computer. At least an audio interface, but also a mic if you want to capture vocals or the sound from a guitar amp. Something to allow you to listen to your work while writing/arranging, tracking/recording and mixing/mastering. Monitors and/or headphones That package looks aimed at solving the first of those points. My initial home studio after getting back into music was simply: An electric guitar my brother gave me Mac book pro that I already owned GarageBand as a DAW. Free install for Macs. A crappy Behringer uphoria audio interface that cost < $100 Some crappy Mackie powered monitors that cost < $150. With that I recorded and released my first track since the early 90s. It was objectively shitty, but that’s all it took to start making, recording and releasing my own music and get hooked again on the process. GarageBand comes with a lot of stock guitar amp and pedal emulations and I just used them.
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So I played in bands in high school and was a house producer for Suge Knight’s “Funky Enough Records” in Los Angeles in 1989. I basically made all the tracks for the label’s rappers to rap over and shepherded sessions at LA Air and other studios for the label’s acts. I had no clue what I was doing, but I had a home recording set up, a dj setup, was a multi instrumentalist and had connections to one of Suge’s co-owners, The D.O.C. from Dallas. It ended poorly in events best described over multiple beers, but suffice to say, it was my “Almost Famous” moment. Kept writing and playing before taking a 10 year hiatus when my kids arrived on scene. When kids got older and more interested in friends, I picked it back up and have been building up a solid home recording studio since then while recording and releasing mostly instrumentals — mostly solo but some collaborations. In the past few years I’ve gotten back into performing live and that’s my current focus. I have a 12’ x 12’ shed that is my office/music making space. That space constraint affects all my decision making. What is the best sound I can get in this tiny box? Often it’s using newer technologies to offset the limitations of this space. For instance, I don’t own a guitar amp, I use amp and cab modelling to emulate amps. A good pair of speakers for mixing are not worth their cost in dollars or space in this room, so I use a good set of headphones and a software plugin to emulate a professional mixing environment over those headphones. If you want a home recording set up in a small footprint using newish techs to offset your room limitations, I probably have some experiences that can help avoid headaches and maybe save you some money going down dead ends.
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