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Chuckie Finster

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  1. 14 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

    My one Duke buddy sent me this. Unreal that these protestors have managed to drive him against his natural state of hatred for all things UNC.

     

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

    Commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak University Administrators.

    But amidst the chaos, the screaming, the anti-semitism, the hatred of faith and flag, stood a platoon of American heroes. Armored in Vineyard Vines and Patagonia, fueled by Zyn and White Claws, these triumphant Brohemians protected Old Glory from the unwashed Marxist horde -- laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the Stars & Stripes from Soviet missiles.

    These boys... no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best.

    Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of the boat-shoed Broleteriat who did their country proud.

    The ultimate goal of a protest should be to influence.  Every successful protest in our nation's history is viewed that way because of what resulted from the protest, not the act of protesting itself. 

    At some point, the goal has shifted to merely performative - influence be damned.  There is no longer any targeted goal of winning over dissenting viewpoints, the only goal is attention.  Somehow leading the nightly news, for good or bad, has become the objective.

    From an influence perspective, it's hard to articulate how utterly unsuccessful these protests have been in advancing their message.  Have they gained a single supporter that wasn't already sympathetic to their cause?  Do they understand how impossible it should be to make Carolina frat boys the sympathetic figure in any situation?

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  2. 6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

    I largely agree.

    As you're aware, I'm sure, my position on the Palestine issue is pretty clear in that I think Palestinians have a fundamental right to self-determination. Israel's 50-year-old occupation and settlement policy are as responsible for the radicalization of the population as anything else. While I believe the conduct of the IDF in Gaza has been overly reckless and cruel to civilians, I also fully acknowledge that Israel has a right to self-defense and support its defeat of Hamas's military.

    As an American citizen and taxpayer, I'm really uncomfortable with the degree of military support and diplomatic cover we provide their government, which allows them to operate in such a brazen manner in both Gaza and the West Bank. 

    The kinetic nature of warfare, with all its ongoing deaths and destruction, inflames passions and gives a sense of urgency and energy to protests. I fully understand that, but there's little that these protestors can accomplish in the short time necessary to affect what's happening RIGHT NOW. So, I'm not sure this particular issue is where I'd invest all my blood, sweat, and tears if I were a student activist. 

    Now, I'm not saying it's unworthy of protests, and, to be honest, 60-some-odd protestors (initial count from yesterday) on a campus of 50,000 students probably isn't far out of line with how people prioritize issues. To me, it's the heavy-handed response by Hartzell and the State that's created the media firestorm.

    Having said all that, they (we all) need to be focusing more on the bigger picture, which is defeating theocratic fascism and white nationalism at home as that encompasses so many fucking other issues (free elections, racial equality, abortion rights, privacy rights, LGBTQ rights, gender equality, public education, etc.). Without tackling this fundamental shit, we won't be able to tackle any of the other challenges we're facing, including climate change and assaults on democracy abroad.

    I'd love those kids to be building a much broader coalition focusing on fighting authoritarianism at home, giving them the moral authority and context for their protestations against Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories. 

    Great post, and wasn't meant to singularly call out Palestine (although that is the big issue of the day).  My frustration with the younger generation lies in that many of them seem to have ONE issue that they center their entire personality around (be it Gaza, tiktok ban, student loans, etc) and they will willingly ignore EVERYTHING else and gleefully punish those in power if they don't get exactly what they want on that one issue. Behavior with potentially horrendous ramifications if widespread enough.

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  3. 1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

    I've taken tents to the park and the beach before for use during the day. So yes, I think that is possible.  Whether these particular people intended to do is irrelevant to the question of whether a blanket no tents policy on a public forum is reasonable. It may be, but I'd need a better justification than "someone might try and stay the night."  

    I mean, these were publicly announced as an act of solidarity with the other nationwide encampments, all of which were overnight establishments.  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this discussion, if I'm being honest.

     

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  4. 1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

    Why? It is a public forum under Texas law. If the tents aren't disrupting class, I'm failing to see the issue. Now, if you're talking about staying overnight and essentially living on campus, yes, that would be a problem. Tents during the middle of the day? That doesn't seem like a clear cut reasonable restriction to me. 

    ... do you think these kids put up tents with the intention to take them down at the end of each day ?

  5. 8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    I'm still not convinced that "no tents" is a reasonable restriction. 

    Turning the south mall into a tent village is a pretty strong red line for me, regardless of the cause.  Genuinely surprised that so many on here don't seem to care. 

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  6. 4 minutes ago, Skipper said:

    Really?  Have you not seen how things have gone in NYC and on the West Coast without police or administration escalating?  Give them an inch they will take a yard.  Some of you need to open your eyes and realize these aren't a bunch of hippies smoking pot and singing Give Peace a Chance like in your good old days.     I feel like plenty on this board are letting their hate for Trump/Abbot/MAGA cloud their judgment.  Listen to some of the jewish students speak (including those on UT campus) about the rhetoric they are hearing walking around campus.  How about protestors at UCLA not letting Jews on campus.   The national news was disgusting this morning.  Not fox news or newsmax, fucking mainstream national news.  80% of this country is disgusted at what is taking place.  But sure - Hartzell is the problem.

    For those uninformed... 

     

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  7. 1 hour ago, Mikey4 said:

    Why are they setting up tents in the first place? Are people resting in them in between protests or something? I don't understand what purpose they serve.

    The honest answer: setting up a tent in a place where tents are frowned upon is the least effort/highest payoff form of protest for a broke college kid. They all are well aware that building a drag rat village on the most storied part of campus will make everyone lose their shit. 

    It's part of what makes the bullshit reaction from the cops today so disgraceful - it's EXACTLY what the protesters want to happen.

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  8. Didn't y'all hear: despite evidence of the least energized election-year voting populace in a generation and ZERO off year election results backing up this claim, we will have an unprecedented demographic shift that will push every swing state red.

  9. I know this isn't realistic, but unless you are bringing in Ohtani, the most correct conclusion based on the last couple of offseasons appears to be: don't sign any free agents.

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  10. 8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

    And once again, none of this was a problem before we elected the carnival barking conman. 

    That's what is so infuriating.  We have 240+ years of evidence that the current system is fine and these chucklefucks are acting like Trump is the first person in history to face a life after the presidency.  

    (I fully realize they don't believe any of this and are purely trying to play Calvinball to benefit their team, the frustration is that we can do nothing about it.)

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  11. Viral post going around of protesters replacing an American flag at Harvard with the Palestinian one.

    Protestors in 2024 have absolutely no understanding of how to create change and are purely in it for the tiktok views.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Sleepygrad said:

    I could watch those two go back and forth all day. Love his football IQ at such a young age. I'd love to see his reaction to Worthy being drafted by the Chiefs. 

    LOL, he looks legitimately pissed off.

     

     

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  13. 10 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

    Could have stayed at 23 and had Brian Thomas instead of Diggs...  Not loving that trade back and swap now.

    This is the exact type of thinking that leads front offices to choose Treylon Burks over AJ Brown.

    I thought last night made our trade down look even better.  Tons of talent at need positions still left.

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  14. 3 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

    Yes, Arabs hate Jews, cannot be denied, but they don't hate Jews simply because they are Jews.  

    Does Hamas make each potential victim fill out a questionnaire with a family tree and a personal beliefs quiz before they decide to kill them? 

    What the fuck point are you trying to make?  If a group of people indiscriminatingly hates another group of people, why does it matter where that hate originated?  

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