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Posts posted by Chuckie Finster
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14 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:
It’s probably down a bit. The return I listed doesn’t reflect a huge drop in value, but he hasn’t done himself or the Astros any favors in the early going.
Meh. You’d have to give me specifics. Otherwise you’re just being a dick. A lot of the returns would be market dependent and obviously hinge on how each of those players perform between now and the deadline. But really I only listed Tucker (a borderline MVP caliber player with another year of control) and Valdez (an ace with another year of control) as realistic trade candidates even bringing back Top 100 prospects. The Org Top 10/30 types would just be guys like Pedro Leon, Joey Loperfido, Arrighetti, Whitley, etc.; those prospects aren’t that valuable and saying a player isn’t worth that is basically saying they don’t have surplus value. Dylan Cease had less value than Framber (and a smaller market given the spring financial constraints) and he brought back 3 of SD’s top 10 prospects (from a very good farm), one of which was a Top 100 guy.
Wasn't meant to be rude, although certainly reads that way (my bad), and maybe I was overvaluing in my mind what "org top 10" meant - because this is obviously highly dependent on the org. My issues were mostly with the position players, as pitching return is always highly driven by what else is out there. Frankly I just don't think Meyers has any value outside this organization, and as much as I love Chas and Pena, I think their returns would shock (in a bad way) many who are still attached to their postseason heroics.
And on Javier - I have no idea what to make of him. There was a time when I thought he was a future Cy Young candidate and now I don't know if he's actually any good at all. He's someone who could potentially fetch a ransom from the right team (if we eat some money) or he could be priced as the lottery ticket that he appears to be.
All of this only my opinion, obviously.
12 hours ago, David Dennison said:So Montgomery or Snell.
Is that a Jim Crane decision or a Dana Brown decision?
Reggie Jackson, apparently.
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1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:
Trade values:
Diaz: multiple Top 100 prospects
Abreu: would have to buy down $30M just to get rid of him
Altuve: don’t even think about it
Pena: a Top 100 prospect plus a couple org top 10 types
Bregman: at this point it’s probably one org top 10 type; hopefully he turns it around
Tucker: a top 100 prospect plus a couple org top 10 guys, his stock is doen since he started slow
Meyers: an org top 10 and a throw-in
McCormick: 2 org top 10s and a lotto
Alvarez: don’t even think about it
Dubon: 2 org top 30s
Caratini: 1 org top 30 plus a lotto, may have to throw in some money
Kessinger, Singleton: no value
Framber: 1 top 100 type assuming his medicals clear; if he comes back healthy this could increase
Verlander: 2 org top 10 types assuming his medicals clear; if he comes back healthy this could increase, could also increase if Houston covers salary
Javier: 1 top 100 type plus 1 org top 10; could get another org top 10 by adding money
France, Brown, Blanco, Garcia, Urquidy, Martinez: value unknown
McCullers: they’d have to throw in $25M just to get rid of him
Bielak, Mushinski, Scott, Coleman: one lotto
Montero: one lotto; they’d probably have to throw in some money
Abreu: 3 org top 10 types
Pressly: one org top 10, assuming Houston pays in some money
Hader: Houston could get a big haul but it wild depend on how much money they paid down
If the season is lost and they do rebuild, it will be much quicker than 2011-2014 and if it goes well they should contend again in 2026.
I appreciate the thought behind this, but many of these (IMO) are overvalues rarely seen outside the confines of texags. Outside of absolute superstars, sure feels like the prospect return on baseball trades is almost always less than anticipated.
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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:
Start taking calls on everyone not named Alvarez, Diaz, and Altuve.
Keep Altuve for the sentimental value, but you gotta listen on everyone else. We aren't gonna be good again in Yordan or Yainer's window.
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Either Trump gets blown out or the generally accepted idea of a national campaign infrastructure is completely and permanently overhauled.
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This coming less than 24 hours after Trump’s big “LEAVE IT UP TO THE STATES” press tour is some real monkey paw shit.
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Genuinely unsettling to see Trump correctly reading (at least when it comes to a national ban) a hot button political issue.
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4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
The main risk that RFK poses for Biden is if RFK only focuses on the states where Biden has a small lead. Then he could look to find a way to steal votes from Biden by being the "none of the above" candidate.
aaaaaand they're going after New York, lmao
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I get that logic left the chat a while ago but "abortion is literally the murder of babies but also it's up to the states to decide if this is allowed" is an absurd attempt at threading the needle.
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50 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Jared Moskowitz is becoming an internet fave
He is absolutely perfect as a House troll, and I hope he doesn't preemptively end his career by trying to be more than that.
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41 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Also there was an eclipse in 2017. I forget, who was President then?
Also, if we are claiming God is sending political signs to America then he REALLY fucking hated the guy in charge in 2020.
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6 minutes ago, chainsaw said:
That's nice to see but national polls don't make a shit due to the electoral college
The point isn't necessarily the totals, but the movement. A few weeks ago, Trump was leading all these same national polls.
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5 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:
what polls are you talking about?
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21 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:
Timely article on who RFK's folks are. I like these sentences: if RFK is seen as the "outsider" for guys that were in search of outsiders up to now, that sounds like a formula for getting Trump voters (and indeed, this guy was a Trump voter)
Everyone knows that Biden voters love defending January 6ers.
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3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:
I'm sorry, what?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024#!
I'm not one to make a ton of polls this early either way but the copium on this board can border on disinformation at times.
Nate, known Biden copium addict. (Back to my original point, kinda shocked he is actually commenting on this.)
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1 minute ago, Js1 said:
And there’s 2 more national polls showing Biden ahead and a PA poll showing him ahead. But those don’t get play
By TEN fucking points.
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So basically every single poll has Biden ahead now, weird how polls are no longer in the news.
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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:
Donald Trump.
It's a tight race between the two of them, I'll tell you that.
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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Nebraska State Senator
I don't think there's a human on the planet who wants Biden to lose more than that ettergermentum guy.
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Israel
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1 hour ago, 'stache said:I hate it, but if he blocks it, Trump becomes president, I truly believe that to be true with where the people are on Israel.
This is the truth. Politically, Biden is playing this lose-lose situation correctly, as unhappy as it makes the tiktokers.
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10 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:
The inability or unwillingness to plainly call Trump what he is typifies our national problem. He’s a poisonous snake, a toxic cloud bringing out the worst in America. Pathetic sure, but would you merely call Hitler pathetic? It’s a weak cop out. Trump needs to be ground into a fine powder by the heel of a boot. Fuck pathetic.
There's also a weird aversion to discuss what happened in 2020. Trump fucked up the COVID response, point blank. That wasn't really even a debatable conclusion at the time of the election that year.
We have verifiable evidence that this dude failed miserably in a time of crisis, yet you'd think his reign ended in 2019 if you listened to most of the commentary about the upcoming election.
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Israel
in Cloak Room
As an initial vocal supporter of Israel, I've avoided this thread for a while... but the truth can be ignored no longer.
As much as I want to support the idea of Israel, and I stand by my belief that there are/were many bad actors in the "ceasefire" movement capitalizing on anti-semitism, this shit cannot go on.
What Israel is doing is inconceivable. Most "normie Jew" support for Israel centers around the idea of a safe place for Jews, yet I cannot think of anything that endangers the future international prospects of safe Jews than the continued escalation of this conflict.
Fuck Bibi.
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Houston Astros 2024 Season Thread
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Color me crazy, but signing and then releasing multiple major league relievers in the span of a week doesn't seem like a sign of a well-run organization.