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Posts posted by berlinerbaer
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Most of them would vote for it under normal circumstances. It's on-brand and understandable that House progressives don't want to ram a bill through in this manner that gives funding to Israel.
(Mea culpa if the discharge petition isn't the Ukraine/Israel/Palestine/Taiwan conglomerate foreign aid package that was part of the dead border bill.)
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The comment upthread regarding the Uyghurs is pertinent. Is TikTok filtering searches and restricting content covering issues sensitive to the Chinese? History suggests that it probably is, which is admittedly problematic.
Is there any evidence TikTok has been slanting content toward one political party or promoting content about election fraud or otherwise attempting to disenfranchise voters? That's an immensely bigger problem but also much more of a stretch. China has largely been agnostic towards US partisanship.
If this becomes law, it will be really unpopular among young people, a key Democratic coalition. No wonder the Republican-led House passed it so easily. I think the Senate needs to think long and hard about this bill, as they should, and Biden needs to come to his senses. He needs to hear from Dems at the state and local level who use it effectively to reach younger voters.
And if the other option is letting Musk or Mnuchin get their hands on it, hell-to-the fuckin' no! Given the choice between TikTok being ran by the Chinese or by MAGA, I'll take the Chinese anytime every time.
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On 3/11/2024 at 7:06 PM, Chuckie Finster said:
Dunno where best to put this, but this seems shady as fuck
The hearing was a dud, apparently, just like they all have been. I say let Trump-world get involved as often as they wish.
Stakes are scary high, but these dipshits can't get out of their own way.
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11 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:
Six flippable Republican House members in California will benefit from energized trumpsters looking forward to voting against Schiff. There are only 45 truly competitive House seats.
Schiff’s unforced and cynical error may keep the House in Republican hands.
There is no universe where Garvey would have placed any worse than second.
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16 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:
Well folks, I ate my lunch about 8 feet away from a guy who was wondering why somebody hadn't eliminated the president. And if you kill him, you know you gotta kill the vice-president as well. I eased around and saw a geezer in a motorized wheelchair. For context we were in the cafeteria of my Mom's assisted living center.
Then Old Boy segued into how the main reason you wouldn't want to kill both the Prez and the VP is because the Mob Squad [his term] would be in charge. You know the Mob Squad, AOC and her crowd, they hate America.
Then his table-mate changed the subject to how the turnip greens were pretty good but he'd added too much vinegar.
Motorized Wheelchair has aged out of his days of dreaming (?) of church bombings. When we left he was sitting alone in a darkened room while the rest played Bunko.
My restaurant eavesdropping just a few days ago revealed a man who thought it would be great for Trump to pick Tim Scott as his VP in order to lock up the black vote. Because it's that easy.
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27 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:
A lot of gaslighting going on here. Thanks to Citizens United—elections are rigged by billionaires. And Schiff—like Feinstein—is more favored by billionaires than a reform-minded Porter who threatens their stranglehold on political power.
Schiff propping up a Repub candidate will hurt Dem candidates in close races—as California Repubs will have a reason to go out and vote against Schiff (a man hated by trumpests) and every other Dem on a ballot in swing districts.
Finally, reform minded Dems (who appreciated Porter’s approach to corporate malfeasance) will be less enthusiastic to vote--lowering turnout.
Stop gaslighting.
Bolded is absolutely true. There are Republican reps that need to be shown the door and a D sweep on the Senate ticket in November would have made that easier.
But the idea of outside influence propping up Garvey at the expense of Porter is some next level Leftist dooming bullshit. Let's not pretend there aren't actually Republican voters in California. I think there are more who live there than in Texas. In any case, Schiff and Garvey both doubled up Porter's margin. There's no way she could have closed that gap, dark money or not.
The real problem was Lee running and crowding the progressive lane. She probably would have gotten my vote if I still lived in CA. East Bay represent!
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9 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:
Is this even remotely apples to apples though?
Outside of Biden, I haven’t heard of a single Dem on the ballot other than Phillips and that’s only because he was the only me to raise his hand and try to do something when Biden wasn’t on the ballot in NH
Democrats in coherence: why that's bad for Biden.
- NYT, probably
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On 2/28/2024 at 2:07 AM, Voldemort86 said:
Of course there’s a TX democrat party operative idiot in there telling us not to. I’ve been voting this way for 10 years. I think the point is to just vote against people you hate as much as possible.
I vote against bathroom Dan, indictment Paxton, and hot wheels Abbott several times a cycle and I love doing it. They’re a joke.
I'm considering voting in an R primary for the first time ever, just to stick it to Cheeto, Rafael, etc, but I'm not willing to go down that path if I'll get my mailbox filled with batshit GOP flyer trash. What has been peoples' experience?
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The father of a special needs child showing up at a Nazi rally, AND bringing the kid?
That can't be real.
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11 hours ago, Js1 said:
That poll isn't terrible actually
They have Trump +7 and the GCB is GOP +4. So they have Allred outrunning Biden by 7 points
We can debate the accuracy of the D-R head-to-heads, like Trump +7 over Biden. That result is obviously subject to the perceived partisan lean of the sample set versus the actual partisan lean, which is of course unknown. The comparisons within party, OTOH, such as between Biden and Allred, are likely to be more accurate because the partisan lean of the sample set doesn't really matter as much.
IIRC, the last poll had Allred running ahead of Biden by a similar margin. A national environment like that in 2020, when Trump beat Biden by 5.5 in Texas, could see Allred beat Cruz.
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I read lots of screaming on here about the Left, and I get it. The Left is VERY online and punches way way above its weight in communication capability. You'd think they would be the bloc to make or break the Democrats.
Here's the thing: politically they are irrelevant, as the following evidence will support. Certainly not enough to warrant the hand wringing on this board. There just aren't that many of them, at least those who vote.
Biden has been crushing the primaries up until now. If the Left was such a large presence, surely they could drag themselves to the polls and vote for Marianne Williamson at a greater clip than the 2% she has been getting? Nicely matches the 2% Tulsi Gabbard was drawing back in 2020. Now, Bernie had a good showing in the primaries in 2020 as a Leftist, but he at least has some responsibility and mainstream cred after being in the Senate like 20 years. He heads the Senate Finance Committee, FFS. That takes the edge off.
Next comes the Border Bill, which - let's be honest - was a fucking awful conservative's wet dream of a bill. It had the potential to be a total wedge issue for the entire left-of-center crowd. But most Democrats would have happily voted for it and Biden was going to sign it. Why? Because they know damn well that the number of independents/moderates they could have courted vastly outnumbered the amount of Leftists they would have pissed off. It was a total poison pill but worth it electorally, because the Left is loud but otherwise inconsequential. Now it's the Republicans, in their extreme idiocy, who decided to not only torpedo their own Democrat subversion efforts, but to OWN it. Fucking clowns. There are Republican strategists tearing their hair out right now.
AOC is basically a team player at this point. Ditto Bernie and Warren. Sadly, they have both stopped talking about single payer healthcare, but there is a simple explanation.
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Lol Biden has had a reputation of making gaffes for decades. From 2008:
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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:
lol, lmao even
30 minutes ago, Js1 said:They are bringing it back up tomorrow once Scalise is back. Why they didn’t wait a day, idk. They just ended up looking stupid today
I'm shocked it made it to the floor. All of Republican leadership is functionally retarded.
So with Scalise back it goes to 215-216. Still a loss. Maybe it'll take another 14 tries.
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We shouldn't be turning away anyone from the middle class, regardless of their country of origin. They are educated and have the skills we need.
Most Chinese and Venezuelans are in this boat (sorry...)
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Lulz
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2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:
The gf was right, they were a burden on their future together. With him now being dead and all.
She's dead too
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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:
We don't want no part of invading Iran, but we could bomb the shit out of them for a while to let 'em know who's boss.
They will return fire. Are you comfortable with American casualties?
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Fuck Tucker, but he's right in that we don't want a war with Iran. I have no qualms about him calling out known warmongers.
The proxies are fair game, if likely a futile exercise of whack-a-mole.
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2 hours ago, 'stache said:
She would be shot within hours and he’d gain in the poles. The worse he is the more they love him.
"They" are a minority and still only get one vote, no matter how much they love him.
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All of you centrists and former Republicans seem to forget that turning out the base is priority #1 for any winning campaign. For environmentalism causes, this is up there with canning the Keystone XL.
This matters even more to the millions of young people that have aged into voting since 2016 and 2020. Many of them are terrified of climate change and inaction from elected officials, real or perceived. At minimum, this will help Biden score some much needed points with this group after his approval of the oil expansion up in Alaska and the Gaza war. Getting voters from this cohort will outweigh any losses from other demographics.
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5 hours ago, FartingMonk said:
I am beginning to think China is paying them to launch drones just so they can gauge our capabilities.
We won't be showing off anything new.
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Raising revenue is a great idea.
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2024 Presidential Election Thread
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A new meme is needed. It's too bad Corvettes are only two-seaters.