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  1. 3 hours ago, gmr548 said:

     


    This just gets parroted and it’s quite obvious no one thinks about it.

    Offense: Jones, Conner, Majors, Bijan, RoJo, Whittington, Sanders, Card - majority of staters/contributors. Also Angilau was an entrenched starter.

    Defense: Sweat, Coburn, Broughton, Collins, Ford, Overshown, Gbenda, Barron, Jamison, Cook, Thompson - majority of staters/contributors.

    Sark plus adds for this year basically come down to Banks, Worthy, Watts, and some edge bodies with Sorrell as a highlight. Ewers is also worth mentioning but objectively hasn’t been significantly better than Card this year - maybe next season.

     

    Great points about what Herman left on offense for Sark.  Now tell me about the offensive line again?  You listed 3 OL total.  Shouldn’t there be like 8 plus JR/SR offensive lineman on the roster that are fairly good?  I would argue Conner and Majors are not high quality lineman either at least at this point for Conner.  Not sure Majors will ever be there.  

    You all can enjoy getting angry about Sark and crying to everybody that he should be fired right now but that seems like a miserable way to go through life.  He is here for at least 1 more year if not 2 so as Clayton Williams once said, “you should “relax and enjoy it”.  I for one am looking forward to him stacking good players on the roster which hasn’t been done since Macks early years.  Hopefully, they continue to get better and Sark is the guy.  If after another year or 2 they are still losing 4-5 games a season he will be ousted and we will hire some other coach you can bitch about.

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  2. 8 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

     

    Texas's own coaching history has all the data we need. Just look at when the 10th loss occurred. That’s the key to predicting a "turnaround" and long-term success. Of the eight coaches hired since Royal arrived in 1957, if the 10th loss happened in Year 2, the coach was fired within 1-4 years for not winning enough. Sarkisian is at 11 losses.

    10th Loss
    — Royal and Akers: 10th loss in Year 4. 

    — Brown: 10th loss in Season 3, next to last game.
    — McWilliams, Mackovic, Strong, and Herman all had their 10th loss in Year 2. 

    This alone suggests Sark is not the guy. In my previous post (#3670, page 74) in this thread, the same striking patterns are evident when the 20th loss occurred. If the 20th loss came before or during Year 5, the coach was fired within one year. McWilliams, Mackovic, Strong. 

    Sark inherited a shitty roster of players.  Look at my post above and show me all the talent left by Herman?  Most of the talent on this roster is Freshman and sophomores right now.  Pull up TCU and K State’s rosters and see how many freshman are starting at those schools.  Both of those rosters are heavy seniors and juniors starting.  At the end of the day, a 3 star recruit that is now a senior/junior who has played for a few years will be better than a 4/5 star freshman.  It’s a men against boys type of thing.  Our team is playing exactly like a young talented team should play regardless of who the coach is.  Flashes of awesomeness with a lot of dumb youthful fuck ups which has led to us losing a few games we shouldn’t have.  We have been in every game we played and if the refs don’t fuck us a few times maybe some of those losses could have been wins.  

     

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  3. 27 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

    Barring a scandal he gets at least 4 years and I'm ok with that.

    Not sure if the below is totally accurate but that is our roster.  I wonder how this compares to any other team in the Top 25 as far as experience goes (not 4 or 5 star rankings). Since this is year 2 of Sark we should look at the upper classmen on the roster to see what Herman left him with.  Yeah, I get he could have portaled more guys in than he did but it really shows the lack of upper classmen on the roster which is why I actually think Sark is building this thing the right way.  He may not be the guy but he will leave the next guy a way better team.  I’m still hoping he is the guy but I think judgement should be withheld until after next season even though it  will still be a very young team.

     

    WR-X 8 Worthy, Xavier SO 88 Cain, Casey RS FR 21 Omeire, Troy RS SO        
    WR-Z 16 Milton, Tarique RS SR/TR 11 Thompson, Brenen FR            
    WR-H 4 Whittington, Jordan RS JR 17 Red, Savion FR 83 Sulser, Gabe SR/TR        
    LT 78 Banks Jr., Kelvin FR 69 Karic, Andrej RS SO            
    LG 76 Conner, Hayden SO 67 Agbo, Malik FR            
    OC 65 Majors, Jake RS SO 62 Robertson, Connor FR 71 Parr, Logan RS SO        
    RG 54 Hutson, Cole FR 52 Campbell, DJ FR 72 Umeozulu, Neto FR        
    RT 70 Jones, Christian RS SR 56 Williams, Cameron FR            
    TE 00 Sanders, Ja'Tavion SO 85 Helm, Gunnar SO 9 Billingsley, Jahleel SR/TR        
    QB 3 Ewers, Quinn RS FR/TR 1 Card, Hudson RS SO 14 Wright, Charles RS FR        
    RB 5 Robinson, Bijan JR 2 Johnson, Roschon SR 7 Robinson, Keilan RS JR/TR 24 Brooks, Jonathon RS FR    
    DEFENSE
    DE 88 Sorrell, Barryn SO 1 Finkley, Justice FR 32 Dorbah, Prince RS SO        
    NT 99 Coburn, Keondre RS SR 90 Murphy II, Byron SO 45 Broughton, Vernon RS SO        
    DT 93 Sweat, T'Vondre SR 98 Ojomo, Moro RS SR 95 Collins, Alfred JR        
    DE 18 Oghoufo, Ovie GR/TR 30 Richardson, Devin RS JR/TR            
    WLB 00 Overshown, DeMarvion SR 3 Tucker-Dorsey, Diamonte RS SR/TR 33 Gbenda, David RS JR        
    MLB 41 Ford, Jaylan JR 43 Bush, Jett SR            
    CB 5 Jamison, D'Shawn SR 8 Brooks, Terrance FR 4 Jordan, Austin FR        
    FS 11 Cook, Anthony SR 21 Crawford, Kitan JR 27 Coffey III, JD SO        
    BS 28 Thompson, Jerrin JR 36 Taaffe, Michael RS FR            
    CB 6 Watts, Ryan JR/TR 31 Johnson, Jamier SO            
    SPUR 23 Barron, Jahdae JR 37 Blackwell Jr., Morice SO

     

  4. 28 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

    the QB is the single most important position in college FB. Our's is a pretty shitty freshman.   NOBODY goes 10-1 or 9-2 with a shitty QB. 

    Pro football also.  Bill Belichick was able to go 11-5 with Matt Cassel as his QB one year so I think it’s safe to say Sark is somewhere coach wise between Charlie Strong and Bill Belichick.  That puts him most likely above average.

  5. 40 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

    Out of all the various criticisms of QE in this thread, the "his face looks too bloated for him to be a good QB" is the weirdest.  Especially coming from posters whose average BMI is 40 and have 32% body fat.  I guarantee that the average surly poster is one sausage behind Ketch.

    Two sausages for me and for body shaming me after a UT win...

    See the source image

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  6. 12 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

    To me, this entire argument comes down to two main things: how “talented” is the roster in reality, and how much of QE’s seeming lack of progression is squarely in Sark?

    On the talent issue - I think of “talent”, as an overall measurable of an 80+ man roster, as a little more nuanced than the count of 3/4/5-star ratings from high school. (Yeah I know those rating mean something at a population level.) But I would posit that “talent” at some positions is more critical than others, and that experience is a great equalizer. We start 2 freshmen on the OL. They are very talented. Are they better players right now than 4th or 5th year guys who had lower ratings 4 or 5 years ago?

    Even though it is a lagging indicator, couldn’t we say that players drafted is a pretty good proxy for the intersection of experience + talent? Texas had zero players drafted last year.

    The second issue, to me, is the most worrisome. The whole value proposition of Sark was supposed to be that we’d get excellent QB play, which makes all the difference in college FB. And QE’s “talent” is obvious; as he plays more, I think it is fair to expect him to generally improve - not necessarily on a linear trajectory, because that’s not how real life typically works, but overall. Strangely, he seems to be getting worse. Is that all on Sark? I have no idea why QE appears to be regressing, and while I don’t think it is 100% coaching, it is a damning data point for Sark. It was easy to excuse last year and say “well, CT and HC just aren’t good QBs, but now it’s getting more difficult to make that argument. Some of QE’s struggles are surely on QE, but it is Sark’s job to correct them and that isn’t happening.

    Here’s what I like about Sark: I generally like the coaching staff he hired. You can see development at both lines, the defense overall is better (I don’t give a shit if you want to credit PK or GP, all I care about is the result), the RB and WR coaches were terrific hires, etc. Strong didn’t do that, Herman didn’t do that. And in 2 years Sark has addressed the talent on the lines, which has been a huge issue. And I generally like his offense, though I’m not sure what is going on with QB play, because that is limiting it right now.

    I don’t think Sark is a great head coach. I do think he does enough stuff well to be a good head coach. I thought 8-4 was about right for this year (I don’t see the massive talent advantage that others do) and freshmen are gonna do freshmen things. Sark has fucked up some stuff this year, no doubt. Again, I don’t think he’s a great head coach, but I’m not convinced that he’s not a good one.

    I am exactly where you are on this.  Not sold on Sark (at the end of the day he is probably a mediocre coach at best but we will see) but so far in general I think he is building the program back up.  As to Ewers, I think part of his regression is the O line struggling and his weapons not getting separation always.  I don't care how good a QB is if the O line struggles then the QB and offense struggle.  I'm a Patriots fan also and I can tell you the years or games where the O Line for the Pats struggled is when Brady looked like complete dog shit and the calls of Brady is old and declining started.  Once the O line was able to run and pass block better then suddenly Brady looked great again.  I am not comparing Ewers to Brady.  Just saying that the O Line is the key to an offense being great.  Without that it doesn't matter who plays QB or RB or WR/TE.  It all starts in the trenches.  Same goes for the defensive side of the ball.  

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  7. 1 minute ago, ztejas said:

    Holy fucking shit you're bringing up aggy? Yeah, how is their team looking? They're really slaying it aren't they? 

    And yes my example is Sonny Dykes. Last I checked TCU is fucking 11-0 after going, what, 6-6 or some shit last season? You think that's just some dice roll happenstance? 

    Jesus fuck man. Maybe Sark figures it out here but this is a piss-poor 2nd season that he's working on. 

    Dude, Dykes will lose 4 games minimum next year and maybe more.  I get it.  You hate Sark and think he is a shitty coach.  I hate to break it to you but Dykes aint the second coming of Saban.  He got a senior laden team and has lucked into a lot of wins this year where a bounce here or there that would have been a loss.  Nice Cinderella story TCU has going and they are a solid team this year but if you think TCU under Dykes is the next power house of college football you are sadly mistaken.  

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  8. Just now, shadow_operative said:

    how about ceasing with this completely puzzling and useless practice of being single over backwards to blame any and everyone *but* quinn for quinn's struggles? forget his teammates- they have nothing to do with 99% of why quinn sucks. we could literally surround him with the 49ers skill players and all that would happen is that his shitty throws and inability to run even a fraction of Sark's offense would become more pronounced. the guy is straight up not good enough to play QB for any P5 time right now and half this thread can't even bring themselves to be even remotely critical of him. unbelievable. 

    So challenge accepted?

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  9. 1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

    oh look, another lazy take, bereft of substance, full of platitudes and an air of smugness. "geez guys, he's a freshman, he's obviously going to become a really qb eventually, and freshman qbs all suck and struggle their first year anyways. gah guys, it's like everyone has forgotten what we knew back in normal times." lol indeed.

    first off, quinn is terrible. he is so far away from being a big xii level QB it's scary. he needs so much improvement in so many areas that i won't be surprised to see Sark go find a new starter in the portal this offseason, if only to allow Arch to redshirt. Quinn isn't just having some trouble adjusting as a freshman, he is nowhere near qualified in any way to be the QB at Texas.

    second, we ain't "back in normal times" anymore. been that way for awhile now. this isn't 1998. freshmen have been able to be good at QB for some time now. i'll remind you again that at this exact same stage in his career that colt mccoy was in second place in the rocky mountain news heisman poll. that was 16 years ago. not only have there been plenty of great freshman QBs since then, there have been about a million freshman QBs who were better than quinn ewers. this isn't about him being young and going through growing pains, this is about a guy who is straight up not good enough to play for Texas. not even remotely close.

    I don’t know if Ewers will be better next year or if he will be a bust (I think he improves and becomes more than solid but I really don’t know since I can’t predict the future).  You seem positive the guy will be a total bust.  How bout if Ewers plays well next year you agree to never post on this site again?  

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  10. 6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    Back in normal times, we just kind of understood that this is exactly how shit works. We used to understand that starting a 19yo quarterback was bad because 19yo quarterbacks aren't ready to dominate complex, high-speed, elite D1 play.

    We would want guys to redshirt, then play backup to upperclassmen so that they could learn all this shit out of the spotlight.

    But here, if a 19yo sucks, he's doomed forever. And we'll just look to the next 19yo.

    lol

    Exactly.  I think starting 2 freshmen OL is even worse but that's the best we have and in a year or two those freshmen will be hopefully pretty awesome but they are taking their licks right now.  

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  11. 13 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    is this a joke that i'm not getting? our O line has been way better than i thought it would be coming into the year, and Quinn has had plenty of time in the pocket with regularity throughout the season. as for his weapons, he's only got the best player in the country standing next to him, the best RB room in America, and then worthy, whittington, and sanders to throw the ball to. you could win a national championship with our skill players. but uh, sure, let's keep blaming everyone around quinn for the fact that he's bad.

    How bout pulling some game film and watching our center and both our guards block this season.  Ewers doesn't have plenty of time, especially on up the middle pass rushes and there isn't a ton of separation by our receiving weapons.  Bijan is crazy good but a lot of his awesome runs are more him then our great run blocking. The interior OL has been abused consistently in almost every game.  That shitastic blocking by them is part of the reason our offense has been so inconsistent to non existent in a lot of games.  You can also add in Worthy and other receivers dropping a lot of balls/running wrong routes and also Ewers struggling with throws and his reads.  You could also add in Sark with some crappy play calling at times.  Ewers isn't a surprise as he is playing his first year of college football so the struggles are kind of expected and I do think he will be better next year.  I also think the OL will be better next year which will be one of the reasons Ewers plays better.    

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  12. 12 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

    TN and The fighting Mack Browns both fucking up tonight.

    S Carolina hasnt been stopped yet on a drive. 4 drives 4 TDs

     

    and NC doing the patented Mack Brown wtf game. 

    Too bad there is not a Holiday Bowl anymore for Mack Brown to go play in.

  13. Just now, austintiger said:

    Sark isn't getting fired with arch coming. Question is...how many 7-8 win seasons with arch before the boosters fire him only to make another terrible hire after publicly chasing Bill Belechek?

    Negged for sucking at spelling.

  14. Just now, 52-80 said:

    yeap, he should've held on to it.  but it was also a poor pass for a 1v1 with open field ahead.

    Not so sure about that.  He put it on his outside shoulder where the DB couldn’t get to it.  A good WR catches that.  Not saying Ewers has been good this game but that throw was fine.

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  15. 1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

    Thatguy:  it's lazy that Xavier Worthy didn't put effort on the poor 4yd sideline throw ewers made to another wide receiver

    Worthy did drop a pretty easy ball right in his hands down field earlier in the second half.  

  16. 10 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

    It's so much better to just record the game and do something else while it's on. Win, go back and watch the replay. Lose, actually enjoy that 4 hours of my life that I would've otherwise been miserable. 

    Exactly what I am going to do today except I am going to play golf in 40 degree temps right now so I guess I am just a glutton for punishment.

  17. 13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

    Yes if you added the two best players from the Herman era to this team we would probably be better. I'm not sure what point that's supposed to make. 

    It’s a ridiculous point.  Now, if we just had a prime Tom Brady and Lawrence Taylor then we would have a chance against Kansas.

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