Posts posted by 'stache
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3 hours ago, GenXer said: Or, an understanding of history and its subsequent effect on current day.
I always have this loaded up for whenever a stupid (my dad or his buddies) start berating woke. Being from oklahoma, there is an inexplicable soft spot for the plight of native americans amongst the most ardent right wingers.
The set up: The cherokee were one of the five “civilized “ tribes as I learned in oklahoma history. They took the US to the supreme court to prevent their land from being taken. The cherokee won their case in the supreme court. Then andrew jackson sent the us military to force the cherokee to walk from south carolina, traverse the mississippi river, and walk to oklahoma along what is now known as the trail of tears. Many died along the way.
I then pose the question: do you believe that the cherokee were put in a disadvantageous position?
The answer is always a “well.. yeah”
My response: “congratulations! You’re woke!”
With a big motherfucking smile.
Can't say I'm in regular contact with people like this, but a very common response I hear to this stuff is that the Natives lost their wars and should be grateful they weren't completely wiped out. They don't deserve special treatment because of their race (and as someone who works in this area I have to always try to correct people that Native American is not a race is a polical classification).
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3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: The solution is to make players employees, and make bowl participation part of their enforceable contract. Or instead of giving players trinkets, give them half of the money the school/conference gets from being in it.
I mean, that's the key to all of it, and why it'll never get "fixed." As long as the schools, conferences, and networks refuse to acknowledge that they are a multi-billion dollar industry and that the players generate that wealth, this is what you get. If you acknowledge that they are employees, they can collectively bargain, and contracts and limitations on movement then become enforceable. That's how it works in all other professional sports. You don't get to leave your team if the coach leaves. You don't get to choose your squad or coach when entering the league through the draft and, unless you're a special player that can negotiate a no trade clause, you can't prevent your managers from trading you to wherever they want. These restrains are only possible because the players association agreed to them in the collective bargaining agreement. If schools want to pretend that the players generating billions of dollars are just students participating in friendly athletic competitions like its the late 1800s, there is no legal basis to prevent their freedom of movement and to find ways to make money through their efforts and popularity.
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10 minutes ago, BlackCat said: I wish they would do a second bracket for the 13-24 teams. Not sure how you would incentivize it but I would be excited to watch it.
A 24 team playoff would bracket 9-24 and could be played the first week of December allowing the losers to still play in the other bowls. Otherwise the bowls want the matchups to be as competitive as possible, so ideally 13 v 14, 15 v 16, etc. They seem to come pretty close accounting for bowl tie ins and avoiding conference matchups.
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Goddamnit Fox, shit like this pisses me off. They show the play with the announcers saying it’s a catch, and don’t show the replay and announcers changing their mind, because it very clearly was not a catch. I reallly wanted it to be to say I saw live maybe the best catch ever but it was not a catch. Social media people who didn’t watch live though and only see this are all over the Vegas conspiracy and “scripted” bullshit because the post is intentionally misleading. It also didn’t end the game dumbass there was another play after this one.
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15 hours ago, TxEx84 said: I seriously don't understand why people want 24 teams in the playoff. Yes, I realize that I am in the minority. I was an avid watcher of college basketball until every team with a pulse made the tournament. The regular season is boring af now. I want every regular season CFB game to matter. Eight was the right number. Twelve was pushing it, but ok. Twenty-four? GTFO.
You were an avid CBB fan until 1985? Did you go to school with armybrat?
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Cheez It was having some fun when they ran their own self named bowl. Not sure if they still do this since taking over the Citrus Bowl sponsorship. The last iteration is what’s now the Pop Tart Bowl and both brands are owned by the same mega corp overlords. I wonder if they saw more opportunity for shenanigans with Pop Tarts or if they still have fun with the Cheez Its too. I’ll watch some on NYE probably.
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4 hours ago, wildcat09 said: You guys do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to MTG.
This, she's a reprehensible piece of shit and needs to fucking disappear permanently. Even if her turn is genuine (which I don't believe for a second) you don't come back from her bullshit into respectability. At least violent criminals do time before we welcome them back into civilized society and even then we rarely look to them for advice on important matters. She can burn in hell for eternity.
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I love OSU's Eric Morris hire but am not very enthused that he's bringing his defensive coordinator and most of that side of the staff. If we get Mestmaker, Hawkins, and some of their other good players, I think we'll at least score enough to be respectable again, and possibly really good if the defense can show up from time to time.
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9 minutes ago, nnm said: I’ll give you UM and BYU can be good. But my little pony? C’mon man.
They beat Miami this year and mowed down the ACC just last year until the CCG and still made the playoff. I still think Lashlee's a good coach and they have NIL money. I think they can and will reload and avoid the silly losses they had this year. They at least have a pulse compared to the rest of that Micky Mouse schedule.
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6 minutes ago, Js1 said: A temper tantrum if they miss the CFP in 2026, I guess.
I mean, they have a 3 game schedule next year, Miami, SMU, and BYU. If they lose two and end up ranked 13th, I'm sure they'll go full bitchmode again. So, you know, maybe win 2 of those 3? Nah, just put them in now to keep them from crying the entire fucking year.

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1 hour ago, The Dog said: Is it just me, or is everyone getting way over their skis on Miami?
Ohio State being favored by 9.5 is a lot, but I think that everyone's overrating the Canes' win over aggy a bit. And last I checked, Carson Beck was still Miami's QB.
Thoughts?
I haven't been reading much on that game but I can't believe anyone would be high on Miami. The UM-Aggy game was complete dogshit from both teams. UM only advanced because, well, someone had to end up ahead. I think it's far more likely that tOSU wins by 3-4 TDs than Miami pulls out a wins or even stays within that line.
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18 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said: Football isn't basketball. Only 12 games in the regular season - only teams that have shown something serious should have a shot.
24 teams getting in is fucking ridiculous.
There are always P4 teams in the NCAA tournament that are sub .500 in conference. They haven't proven shit. Some small conference AQs are sub .500 overall. Getting hot for a few games and winning the NEC doesn't mean shit.
There will never be a top 24 CFB team that is sub .500 in conference and certainly not overall. The worst record of this year's CFP top 24 was 8-4 Iowa (6-3 in conference). Everyone else was at least 9-3 overall.
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12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said: Apparently this is difficult for you. I"m sorry that a little criticism of Shane Gillis has triggered you, to the point that you have to put words into my mouth and make up some big bad thoughts in your head. Your clear idolization of Gillis is your prerogative, and I've noticed he's got a lot of white knighters like yourself online. It's weird, like y'all are bro Swfities or something.
Again, all I said was he conveniently straddles the political line to absorb as many fans as possible. I find it annoying and insincere. Meaning I don't think he's a right winger, but he always finds a way to provide them enough nuggets to keep their support and fandom. I just searched his name on Twitter and this popped up.
This is from the "Official Fan Account for Nick Fuentes" according to Twitter bio with over 200k followers. You're right that Rogan is doing all the Fuentes glazing here, but Shane brought his name up, later called him "funny as fuck" and just sat there while Rogan droned on taking Fuentes seriously.
Shane Gillis is very popular and well liked. The Right likes to clip him and act like he's on their side. It's been going on for years. This is easily avoidable for Shane Gillis. He doesn't have to go on Rogan and talk politics with this fucking meathead and bring up Nick Fuentes. But he continues to do shit like this. He knows what he's doing, and I'm calling him out on it. Stop being such a pussy about it.
Yeah, just from the short clip, I didn't get the sense he was pro Fuentes, he looked to be mocking him at first, but then failed to really push back when Rogan tried to make him a legitimate person in politics. I would like to think that if they went into more detail about how Fuentes is "funny" it's that he's such a caricature and pure ragebait that there is some humor in mocking his style. Nevertheless, in my view, appearing with Rogan at all these days leaves a bad taste in my mouth, which would be true even if they manage to avoid politics, but they went into politics, so yeah, pretty distasteful. I get it, he's the top podcaster with billions of listeners, but that right there is the problem. Stop giving into him to increase your popularity but it just increases his popularity and he's the type of person in todays world who needs to be shut the fuck up already.
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On 12/27/2025 at 10:54 AM, Beau Vine said: 
On 12/27/2025 at 11:10 AM, Samson's Wig said: Cult people are fucking weird. Whether it's this odd Kirk fetishist cult or people kneeling at the feet of some perverted swami somewhere in India (or the PNW), these are some broke-brained sadsacks.
These are people who will say others have a “derangement syndrome.”
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