Posts posted by 'stache
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I always loved the Gamblers and their logo. For some reason I thought they were also part of the World League with the San Antonio Riders but I guess they were only the old USFL then the new USFL. I'm not sure why I have a memory of them from the past though, I was a toddler with the first USFL folded.
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I wish they would spread out the better bowl games instead of waiting until after Christmas. Most of the games before yesterday (other than the CFP first round) were totally uninteresting and I guess what this thread title would consider the "shitty" bowl games. I'm not saying they should be done away with but why not TCU v. USC on Dec. 23 in addition to Western Kentucky v. Southern Miss? Some of today's slate would have been nice before Christmas too. If there's money to be made from the .500 team matchups from the supporters of those schools and casual people tuning in when work is slow that's fine but I would really prefer the better matchups not be so condensed into this week.
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4 minutes ago, PGFrog said: Did they get those letters pressed on at the kiosk in the mall next to the guy selling cell phones and the Orange Julius stand?
I don’t know who makes them but they were the official shirts from the Fiesta Bowl given to the players after the game and heavily marketed thereafter. I’m sure there are some folks in the third world still wearing the Stanford version.

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Asking fans to travel to potentially 3 straight neutral sites is fucking insane. I’m pretty sure the venues and the “committee” (whoever gets those profits) make their money from local corporations and richers buying up the suites and lower level seats without caring who ends up playing the games. The venues are making their dough and any $50 tickets they can sell to the plebes is just some extra pocket change.
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3 hours ago, GenXer said: Or, an understanding of history and its subsequent effect on current day.
I always have this loaded up for whenever a stupid (my dad or his buddies) start berating woke. Being from oklahoma, there is an inexplicable soft spot for the plight of native americans amongst the most ardent right wingers.
The set up: The cherokee were one of the five “civilized “ tribes as I learned in oklahoma history. They took the US to the supreme court to prevent their land from being taken. The cherokee won their case in the supreme court. Then andrew jackson sent the us military to force the cherokee to walk from south carolina, traverse the mississippi river, and walk to oklahoma along what is now known as the trail of tears. Many died along the way.
I then pose the question: do you believe that the cherokee were put in a disadvantageous position?
The answer is always a “well.. yeah”
My response: “congratulations! You’re woke!”
With a big motherfucking smile.
Can't say I'm in regular contact with people like this, but a very common response I hear to this stuff is that the Natives lost their wars and should be grateful they weren't completely wiped out. They don't deserve special treatment because of their race (and as someone who works in this area I have to always try to correct people that Native American is not a race is a polical classification).
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3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said: The solution is to make players employees, and make bowl participation part of their enforceable contract. Or instead of giving players trinkets, give them half of the money the school/conference gets from being in it.
I mean, that's the key to all of it, and why it'll never get "fixed." As long as the schools, conferences, and networks refuse to acknowledge that they are a multi-billion dollar industry and that the players generate that wealth, this is what you get. If you acknowledge that they are employees, they can collectively bargain, and contracts and limitations on movement then become enforceable. That's how it works in all other professional sports. You don't get to leave your team if the coach leaves. You don't get to choose your squad or coach when entering the league through the draft and, unless you're a special player that can negotiate a no trade clause, you can't prevent your managers from trading you to wherever they want. These restrains are only possible because the players association agreed to them in the collective bargaining agreement. If schools want to pretend that the players generating billions of dollars are just students participating in friendly athletic competitions like its the late 1800s, there is no legal basis to prevent their freedom of movement and to find ways to make money through their efforts and popularity.
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10 minutes ago, BlackCat said: I wish they would do a second bracket for the 13-24 teams. Not sure how you would incentivize it but I would be excited to watch it.
A 24 team playoff would bracket 9-24 and could be played the first week of December allowing the losers to still play in the other bowls. Otherwise the bowls want the matchups to be as competitive as possible, so ideally 13 v 14, 15 v 16, etc. They seem to come pretty close accounting for bowl tie ins and avoiding conference matchups.
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Goddamnit Fox, shit like this pisses me off. They show the play with the announcers saying it’s a catch, and don’t show the replay and announcers changing their mind, because it very clearly was not a catch. I reallly wanted it to be to say I saw live maybe the best catch ever but it was not a catch. Social media people who didn’t watch live though and only see this are all over the Vegas conspiracy and “scripted” bullshit because the post is intentionally misleading. It also didn’t end the game dumbass there was another play after this one.
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15 hours ago, TxEx84 said: I seriously don't understand why people want 24 teams in the playoff. Yes, I realize that I am in the minority. I was an avid watcher of college basketball until every team with a pulse made the tournament. The regular season is boring af now. I want every regular season CFB game to matter. Eight was the right number. Twelve was pushing it, but ok. Twenty-four? GTFO.
You were an avid CBB fan until 1985? Did you go to school with armybrat?
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Cheez It was having some fun when they ran their own self named bowl. Not sure if they still do this since taking over the Citrus Bowl sponsorship. The last iteration is what’s now the Pop Tart Bowl and both brands are owned by the same mega corp overlords. I wonder if they saw more opportunity for shenanigans with Pop Tarts or if they still have fun with the Cheez Its too. I’ll watch some on NYE probably.
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4 hours ago, wildcat09 said: You guys do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to MTG.
This, she's a reprehensible piece of shit and needs to fucking disappear permanently. Even if her turn is genuine (which I don't believe for a second) you don't come back from her bullshit into respectability. At least violent criminals do time before we welcome them back into civilized society and even then we rarely look to them for advice on important matters. She can burn in hell for eternity.
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I love OSU's Eric Morris hire but am not very enthused that he's bringing his defensive coordinator and most of that side of the staff. If we get Mestmaker, Hawkins, and some of their other good players, I think we'll at least score enough to be respectable again, and possibly really good if the defense can show up from time to time.
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9 minutes ago, nnm said: I’ll give you UM and BYU can be good. But my little pony? C’mon man.
They beat Miami this year and mowed down the ACC just last year until the CCG and still made the playoff. I still think Lashlee's a good coach and they have NIL money. I think they can and will reload and avoid the silly losses they had this year. They at least have a pulse compared to the rest of that Micky Mouse schedule.
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6 minutes ago, Js1 said: A temper tantrum if they miss the CFP in 2026, I guess.
I mean, they have a 3 game schedule next year, Miami, SMU, and BYU. If they lose two and end up ranked 13th, I'm sure they'll go full bitchmode again. So, you know, maybe win 2 of those 3? Nah, just put them in now to keep them from crying the entire fucking year.





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I mean, he's not wrong, they should be able to beat Houston easily, but this year LSU was way down from where they usually are and UH had one of their best seasons in a long time. It comes off as far more a criticism of LSU's current status than diminishing UH.