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Lagunamadre

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  1. 8 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

    He was investigated because of his behavior which led to an indictment.  Kerry has shown the exact same behavior with a country that has traditionally been an eney of the USA.  I say we put Kerry through the same investigations.  Then we use the NSA to determine exactly what he said to all foreign entities any time in the past or present during any meeting with anyone (since scope doesn't matter in these things).  If he mis-remembers something or lies about something then he can go through the exact same thing flynn is.  I think flynn should be roasted for lying to investigators.  I think all americans should be treated equally.  So let's give Kerry the opportunity to hang himself.  The first questions should be "what were you doing?" and "are you registered to lobby with/for Iran?"

    Maybe if Flynn started a "Lock him up" chant, that could speed up the process of arresting Kerry. 

  2. 4 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

    He was investigated because of his behavior which led to an indictment.  Kerry has shown the exact same behavior with a country that has traditionally been an eney of the USA.  I say we put Kerry through the same investigations.  Then we use the NSA to determine exactly what he said to all foreign entities any time in the past or present during any meeting with anyone (since scope doesn't matter in these things).  If he mis-remembers something or lies about something then he can go through the exact same thing flynn is.  I think flynn should be roasted for lying to investigators.  I think all americans should be treated equally.  So let's give Kerry the opportunity to hang himself.  The first questions should be "what were you doing?" and "are you registered to lobby with/for Iran?"

    Great. Interview Kerry. If he lies, indict him. Given the public nature of Kerry's meeting, I'm guessing it's not as nefarious as Flynn's. 

     

  3. 8 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

    No... people get upset about it when there is a massive bitch fit thrown about an elected administration even talking to another country before being sworn in but someone who is no longer in government doing the exact same thing, and doing it very overtly, even when it is known to be against the wishes of the sitting administration doesn't even get a peep of criticism.  I want to see Kerry's foreign agent registration papers because we know for a fact that he didn't represent the US.  If he isn't registered then he should absolutely be charged with a crime.

    Flynn, who did what Kerry did, was not indicted for meeting with the Russians. He was indicted for lying to the FBI. He also lied to Pence. Also his meeting was with a country who is far more hostile to us than Iran. 

    The bitch fest also had more to do with the content of the meeting rather than the meeting itself, Flynn promised to remove sanctions to a hostile foreign state directly after an attack on our democracy. What was Kerry's motivation? Convince them to not get out of the deal? Keep them from developing nukes. 

    Let's be rational here, what deserves more "bitch fit"? 

  4. 1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    ANYONE, not officially requested to do so, don't care who it is.

    This has been going on forever. Did you just start getting upset about it when Breitbart started covering it? 

  5. 7 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Any private citizen meeting with officials form other states is doing his nation a disservice, and is very potentially causing problems.  Kerry is an effete asshole and always has been.

    Don't read about Kissinger. Your head will explode. 

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  6. 4 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    You, by name, mentioned Jim Baker so I addressed it so maybe you should tell us all the other times former Secretary of State folks have gone off and done Shadow Diplomacy.

    Condi Rice, don't think she has. Hillary Clinton, don't think she has. John Kerry-Heinz, yup.

    Baker has no authority granted by the Trump administration and he met with the Crown Prince of Saudi a couple weeks ago in Houston. If they discussed Saudi policy, which I'm sure they did, should he share a cell with Kerry? 

  7. 1 hour ago, Caracara said:

    Now out come the tinfoil hats. Obama and Colbert never verified their involvement.   There's been a bit of a coup in SA in the last year. Look into it.

    De Facto theocracies and cult countries don't get nukes. That's a sound policy.

    It's not a conspiracy that 15 of the 9/11 hijackers and their leader Bin Laden were Wahabis from Saudi. The Wahabi indoctrination is still alive and well in Saudi schools. 

  8. Just now, Caracara said:

    The saudis have us. they don't need nukes or want the headache.  It's just rhetoric and more perceived pressure on iran,

    Glad the Wahabis have our full support and glad they return that favor with their allegiance to American interests. 

  9. 33 minutes ago, elnimo said:

    My parents are refugees of the revolution too.  I agree with everything you said. 

    The islamists hijacked the revolution.  The risk is that the MEK or some other fringe group who is worse than the islamists hijacks the next one.  A policy of regime change only works if you have someone internally who can lead an opposition.  Otherwise, you are swapping one a-hole for another.  All those people are dead or in jail in Iran.  The failson of the shah is not going to survive long enough to consolidate power.  The MEK is universally hated in Iran.  The best thing the US could have done to effect regime change was to continue the deal.  The people realized the islamist regime stole all of the money the US released.  Before yesterday, the people blamed the regime for the problems, which helped to bolster the reformists who want the corruption out of the government.  Slow secularization and democratization would result in a lasting friendly government.  Overthrowing one bad regime to install another one won't. The hardliners are celebrating the end of the deal because it shows that they were right. 

    On withdrawing from the deal:  This isn't some grand plan to get a better nuke deal in place.  These are the first steps in setting up a pretext for the war that the neocons have been salivating over for decades.  Right now, the EU is the only thing standing between this situation blowing up (forgive the pun) into a full scale shooting war.  If the EU is forced to back out because of secondary sanctions, then Iran will start up its program again.  Then Israel will conduct airstrikes in Iran with its new overfly rights granted by the Saudis (who might join in the fun) because Iran can't have a nuke (I actually agree with that position).  The Iranians will strike back, and the US will be forced to act.  I'm sure Bolton's power point presentation is a bit more detailed.

    Any escalation in conflict, and especially the involvement in the US, will disenfranchise the entire population.  The hardliners in government will solidify their position.  The only way the US will get rid of them at that point is a full on ground invasion.  Iran has mandatory conscription.  So everyone in the country has some military training.  This will be bloodier that Iraq.  

     

     

    Great post. Merci! 

  10. 22 minutes ago, Amobie said:

    It is pretty alarming how many people are rooting for an outcome that is a net negative for the US simply because they don't like the President.  We don't have any details let alone the acknowledgement of an agreement yet some people have already decided that it's a bad deal...  For something that hasn't even happened yet.

     

    Just because I think the Warriors are going to beat the Rockets doesn't mean I'm rooting for them. I've just seen this movie before and have a good feeling how it ends. 

  11. 24 minutes ago, Amobie said:

    It is pretty alarming how many people are rooting for an outcome that is a net negative for the US simply because they don't like the President.  We don't have any details let alone the acknowledgement of an agreement yet some people have already decided that it's a bad deal...  For something that hasn't even happened yet.

     

     

  12. 24 minutes ago, Amobie said:

    It is pretty alarming how many people are rooting for an outcome that is a net negative for the US simply because they don't like the President.  We don't have any details let alone the acknowledgement of an agreement yet some people have already decided that it's a bad deal...  For something that hasn't even happened yet.

     

     

  13. 6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    Here you go.  It was actually taxpayer money.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-iran-payment-cash-20160907-snap-story.html 

    The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a decades-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. An initial $400 million of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency was delivered on pallets Jan. 17, the same day Tehran agreed to release four American prisoners.

    The Obama administration had claimed the events were separate, but recently acknowledged the cash was used as leverage until the Americans were allowed to leave Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s. The administration had previously declined to say if the interest was delivered to Iran in physical cash, as with the principal, or via a more regular banking mechanism.

     
     

    Earlier Tuesday, officials from the State, Justice and Treasury departments held a closed-door briefing for congressional staff on the payments, according to a Capitol Hill aide familiar with the session. The officials said the $1.3 billion was paid in cash on Jan. 22 and Feb. 5. The aide was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

    The money came from a little-known fund administered by the Treasury Department for settling litigation claims. The so-called Judgment Fund is taxpayer money Congress has permanently approved in the event it's needed, allowing the president to bypass direct congressional approval to make a settlement. The U.S. previously paid out $278 million in Iran-related claims by using the fund in 1991.

    The interest was tax payer dollars, but a small fraction of what we likely owed had it been dictated by arbitration. 

  14. 9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    Serious question, who paid the compounded interest?

    We paid about 1/10th of the interest that we could have. We saved billions by not letting people in the Hague tell us the interest was actually $10B. Which every reasonable spectator pegged the interest at. 

  15. 11 minutes ago, Theo Huxtable said:

    If Iran ever nukes us, I sincerely hope the epicenter is Trump’s fat fucking face.


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    Preferably while he is on a solo visit to a remote Nevada missile testing site. 

  16. 6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

    Hahaha. God you guys have no fucking clue of what you are talking about. MEK DESPISED by 99% of all Iranians because they were traitors who fought on Saddam Hussein’s side and are fucking cult.

    You should relay that info to Trump's newly appointed National Security Advisor, he is apparently of a different opinion.   

  17. 1 minute ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

    Free and fair elections with no restrictions on candidates and a new secular constitution. I’m betting a nationalist slate of candidates would win. People are chanting Reza Shah’s (the last Shah’s father) name in the streets. He was a great nationalist modernizer. Islamic governance would be thrown in the trash can.

    Ahh, a supporter of the Shah. We'll I guess we all know why you ended up moving to America. 

  18. 10 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

    You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. My credentials: I’m Iranian-American and know what the fuck is going on in Iran. Rouhani is no moderate and no candidates other than mullah ass lickers are vetted. The people of Iran are disgusted with this regime.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/labor-strikes-and-worker-protests-erupt-across-iran-this-is-slavery-1525626832

     

    So are your friends and family in Iran happy that we pulled out of the deal and are reinstating sanctions? Will this make us more popular with your people? 

  19. 25 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

    While Trump has been an idiot on a lot of matters, he has been right on the money when it comes to foreign policy. This hopefully will be the death knell for the Islamic Republic. The rial will most surely collapse even further. Even though the Europeans are not pulling out, you will not see any foreign investment in Iran because it’s just too risky.

    Obama’s naïveté hurt American interests. Remember how Obama supported Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. Trump has smartly backed our great ally Gen. Sisi in Egypt who saved his country from Islamic theocratic hell. Look at what Trump’s tough talk led to with North Korea. They came to the table and are going to end their nuclear program. Pulling out will hopefully lead to the collapse of the Islamic Republic. Bravo President Trump.

    If only we could come to an agreement with Iran and all of our allies to bring them to the table to end their nuclear program. 

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  20. 2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    So we violated the Iran deal today by choice, betrayed our European Allies, and damaged US credibility even further.

    Another big win for Russia.

    Does this mean we have to start calling them "freedom fries" again?

  21. Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

    Now our Military is saying that they have indication that Iran is planning an attack on Israel. 

    Likely unrelated to this. Israel has been bombing Iranian military assets in Syria for a couple weeks now. They are responding. 

  22. 3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

    i did find it vaguely amusing that he called his bro macron to break the news before announcing it to the rest of the world.

    Trump is going to be pissed when he realizes Macron is no longer his bro. 

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