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Constant

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  1. 7 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

    Is there a policy or training on what the appropriate amount of force to use is before resorting to lethal force? Like would normal DPD training say to use pepper spray or a taser if at all possible (obviously pepper spray in an enclosed location is bad)? I understand that there are some situations where going straight to lethal force is necessary, but is there policy or training to help officers determine when it is and is not neccessary?

    Yes. There is a lot of training on use of force. There is an outdated continuum that shows levels of force response to levels of subject resistance but that does not apply to most instances of use of force. We abide Graham V Connor which established an objective reasonableness standard which essentially states your use of force needs to be objectively reasonable considering the totality of the circumstances. The scope of the use of deadly force policy for the department is even more strict than Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal Code. I believe Amber Guyger was fired for violating the use of deadly force policy. 

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  2. 7 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

    Yea I enjoy reading the opinions on this stuff as well. I know jack shit about the law. 

    I mean as she was walking up she could smell weed? That should have tipped her off that shit, let me double check that this is my apartment. My building is a similar build out and I have parked on the wrong floor of the garage before but I have only gone to the apartment directly under me once thinking it was mine and I was completely fucking blackout hammered. 

    Hopefully on separate occasions. 

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  3. 3 hours ago, TXSooner518 said:

    The testimony was she had left her bodycam at the station, which seems perfectly normal and reasonable. The bodycam footage discussed is from the responding officers.

    Correct. The timestamp of her docking the body camera was covered with the testimony from the Sgt. over the body camera program. Docking the equipment begins charging the device and the upload of the data to the cloud. There is an extensive audit trail with the Axon system. I’m half certain it’s counting my farts throughout a night. 

  4. 6 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

    I heard an attorney mentioning a text from Guyger to someone right after the incident stating “I fucked up”.

    Don’t think we’ve heard about any of her communications yet other than a little of the 911 call she made.

    They are arguing about the extraction of her cell phone information and whether it can be introduced to the jury. Still haven’t brought the jury in and started with opening statements. This seems like it could go on for awhile.

    Caught a little of it before I head to bed. I did hear a prosecutor state they are not alleging any prior relationship between the defendant and the complainant, so I guess those theories can be put to rest finally. 

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