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  1. There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation. —Herbert Spencer 

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  2. 32 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

    So Jefferson’s two aides who pleading guilty to conspiracy and moving some cash around get 8 and 7yrs respectively.  Its a shame they hadn’t lived an otherwise blameless life like Manafort.

    I dunno, you can't speak in generalities.  One of them was reduced by Ellis to 3 years.

  3. Just now, High Plains Drifter said:

    Throw in having to pay for his health insurance by working a federal minimum wage job, I'd be fine with this, but until this actually becomes the new norm, Manafort should be living the rest of his life in jail.

    He wouldn't have to pay.

  4. Well, I think "the times" are a big part of the problem.  Someone has to be better than that.

    Both sides ignored, benignly or malignantly, the rubes.  Just by acknowledging their presence and lying his ass off to them. Trump captured a big vote and created a monster.

    You don't really have to educate them, just acknowledge them and they may be yours forever.  You never know when common courtesy, even insincere as hell, is going to help you out, or the lack of it fry your ass.

  5. On 3/5/2019 at 1:21 PM, CHIEF said:

    Herd's and Burger Bar are 1a and 1b for me, you can't go wrong with either one. Seems as though the secret is to have a 70+ year old griddle that just gets wiped down but never washed. They develop a season on them that is just magical. Reminds me of those restaurants in China where they haven't dumped their sauce or stock out in something like 200 years, they just keep adding to it everyday.

     

    CHIEF

    Don't forget the poop oil, that shit's magic.

  6. I'm also a bit troubled by things like not shaking DeVos' hand (Al Franken did), and refusing to say that Pence is a decent man (Biden did).  I don't care how contemptible you believe them to be, or how right you are about it, that's just not how you play politics successfully I don't believe.

  7. No one argued that trafficking wasn't bad or that there isn't frequently a connection between rub n tugs and sex trafficking.  But this bust had as much to do with sex trafficking as a quarter-ounce pot bust has to do with the drug war.  Fuck tha police.

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  8. 3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

    I know he meant cue but he wrote que, which I think he confused with queue which, in turn, is commonly confused with cue. Fuck it. I'll stop now. I majored in French and can't help myself sometimes.

    Carry on.

    Triggered my spelling OCD also.

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  9. 2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

     

    Love you, man, but it's cue not to be confused with queue which is what I think you meant to write. Not to be pedantic but queue is from the French meaning a tail or a line. Some argue that queue is part of the original phrase for BBQ: barbe à queue (which can be translated as "from beard to tail" as a cooking method).

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    Or maybe he meant "cue," because it actually makes more sense to cue it than to queue it up.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Even the judge noted that manafort didn’t apologize. If he had, would the sentence have been time served plus an apology from the court? I assume the no apology was a calculated move in a future pardon request of trump.

    A showing of "acceptance of responsibility" under the Sentencing Guidelines is a two-level reduction in the Guidelines calculus.  Can be worth a couple of years.  Other than that, and making somebody feel good (how do you measure the sincerity of such an apology?  how do you know its not "sorry I got caught"?), it's meaningless.

  11. 8 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    Yep.  Followed close on one case and didn’t at all on the other.  Am I missing something?

     

    Of course there’s a million intricacies in each case but on the surface it looks shitty.  

    Well Jefferson's "recommended" sentence was another decade longer than Manafort's, and apparently, during sentencing the "intended loss" from an unconsummated fraudulent loan was thrown out as an enhancement, further reducing Manafort's guidelines range.  It really looks like Ellis is fairly consistent in giving about half to white collar criminals.  And, ultimately, Jefferson got 5.5, released by Ellis.

    You're right about the intricacies, everything is apples and potatoes except in the most gross ways.  "About half" seems really about right for Ellis.

    In a lot of ways, I respect Ellis for ignoring the guidelines; more judges should.

  12. 15 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/charlestiefer/2019/03/07/the-judge-who-let-manafort-off-easy-with-47-months-is-an-arch-conservative/#6eb5b48f5256

    Threw the book at some black guy who also had 'white collar' crimes.  I put white collar in quotes because it's obvious Manafort has blood on his hands.  Really shocking from this 78 yo fuckstick.  I'm sure he's at home enjoying some Fox News right now.  

    Not sure that's a good comparison.  The guidelines range for Jefferson was 27-33 years. https://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2009/11/former-congressman-william-jefferson-scheduled-to-learn-sentencing-fate-today.html

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