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  1. 36 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

    If they vote GOP at the moment, they don't believe any of it. 

    I won't disagree with you that the current crop of legislators on the right, for the most part, sucks donkey balls. The same can be said about the majority of the left. And that's the problem. We have two shit show parties to choose from. 

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  2. 9 hours ago, LongestHorn said:

    I want to understand his "actual hard drive" theory.

    Treat it like any other forensics case. Do homicide cops want the murder weapon or a copy of it. It's not rocket science. In today's tech climate, practically all data can be manipulated. It can be made to look like someone else infiltrated. Nothing can replace the original. 

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  3. 47 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Again, you are not actually worried about security of this country. So, either you are a russian troll or traitor. Paka. 

    That's a bit of a deflection. It was the DNC that we know was infiltrated (private non-gov organization). We don't know if Hillary was hacked because her hardware is "gone". If the DNC was truly worried about infiltration, instead of turning over "copies" of hard drives, they would have turned over actual hard drives. 

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  4. 5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


    That’s not a “fiscal conservative”, that’s a Unicorn

    You'd be surprised man. I know quite a few people that would be down with all of this. In fact, I bet you there's even a few on this board. 

  5. 7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    So when I specifically say "not production of shows" you think it means... what?

    The FCC is a regulatory body that doesn't have anything to do with the physical reality of how the Internet moves around. This is a public utility, like how your water and sewage operates. Only with Internet tubes instead of shit tubes.

    Just clarifying bruh... you say "production" I say potato. 

     

    So we put the government in charge of providing said internet lines to ALL citizens? Ok. 

     

    What could go wrong??? I mean, the Obama care website killed it. Right? 

     

    I appreciate the esteem and the value that you hold and the faith that you place in our big, burly, lumbering government. But let's be honest. What is our government really good at? I mean really good at? Only one thing: 

     

    We can fucking kill you in 31 different flavors. We are hands down the best ever at that shit. We are a killing machine. We've invented ways to kill mother fucker that would make the Tower of London staff from the 16th century green with envy. 

    Bullets, bombs, aircraft, poisons, chemicals, nukes-- we actually have weapons that turn your organs to liquid shit just seconds before your lungs prolapse out of your mouth. Hell, we've got shit that will just suck your lungs out of your mouth without turning your insides to liquid shit first. You can be sitting out on some dune in east Africa playing with your pet falcon during a monsoon in the dead of night and some JR officer in Virginia on a video game presses a button, puts a warhead on your forehead, then pours himself another triple latte mochachino. 

     

    We are the best at this..... and sadly, only this. 

     

     

  6. Fiscal Conservative-- 

     

    A person that opposes any form of pork barrel spending. 

    A person that understand you can have either entitlement programs or social aid immigration programs, but you can't have BOTH. One must go. 

    A person that sees an importance for funding our military but not spending money on the next stealth designed liquid cooled jock strap for JSOC operators to wear so they can keep their juevos at 65 degrees. 

    A person that shwacks government jobs that have overlap. You can work twice as hard and make 25% more or fuck off and go work really hard in the private sector. 

     

    A person that legalizes medical and recreational mota, forces farmers to grow said weed by taking away their subsidies that pay them NOT to grow crops, taxes el shitto out of el weedo and uses the billions to pay for Medicare for all TAX PAYING AMERICAN CITIZENS-- all others must pay out of pocket or we bill your respective government....

    Just a few starters...

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  7. 37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    This.  Further discussion is pointless.  I mean, we'll have it.  And we'll try.  But the die is cast.

    As to my vision for a post-Trump America....

    4200c7a223d20ee24bbee8a52e465f246e816b02

    If this is your vision of the post trump Era, I hope your skill set is greater than cooking briskets. You won't be much use to my band of marauders. 

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  8. 1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

    We absolutely need to do fundamental reforms to the structure of our government to ensure more accurate and proportional representation.

    Including a Constitutional amendment ending corporate and private interest money in politics.

    Now I agree with this. No person or company should be allowed to donate more than $100 to any politician or would be elected official. No more PACS, no pay to play EVER, no more "foundations" for any government officials. If you have one before you're elected, it must be totally dissolved. Once you leave office, you can't start one for at least five years. 

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  9. 11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    I don't know what it is, but I know it's terrible.

    Like any party, there is not lock-step agreement on everything and there is no concrete plan for every contingency, but there are some basic things that are concrete DSA musts.

    1)  Vital industries need to be nationalized

    In the current political climate, one whose language is so dominated by right-wing political shaping, this comes across to many of you like saying we should drill down into the Earth's mantle and eat lava. But it's really not that big of a deal. The Green Bay Packers are not functionally different from other NFL teams and still win bigly. NASA got to the moon. The trains run on time. Our military can still blow everyone up. Etc...

    What does nationalization entail? Non-profit operation and the board of directors are subject to democratic forces. There are a dozen ways this could play out, but the principal is that the profit motive is removed from vital industry so that vital utilities are never withheld from citizens.

    So what is vital? Utilities are the obvious place to start (electricity, gas, water, television (transmission, not production of shows), and Internet). Healthcare.

    "MY GRANDPA BUILT THIS DILDO FACTORY AND I'LL BE GOD DAMNED IF ..."

    While your dildos are cool, they aren't vital.

    But speaking of your grandpa's dildo factory...

    2) Non-vital industries need to be socialized

    The profits of for-profit enterprise should be shared more equally among the workers. Again, there are a dozen ways this could work. The ultimate principal goes into the EXTREMELY TRUE thing Obama said that made idiots mad, "You didn't build that."

    Grandpa didn't actually build that dildo factory by himself. Lots and lots of people helped him build it. And the entire American taxpayer used their money to fund the infrastructures necessary for that dildo factory to be built and operate.

    Profit sharing is the most obvious and least intrusive way of operating. Instead of Jeff Bezos having $150B and his workers making peanuts, what if that wealth was spread among his workers and he only had $500M to scrape by with? (And yes, I realize that isn't liquid cash and is tied to Amazon's worth in the marketplace, but the principle is still there in terms of ownership shares.)

    There are two things. There are a lot more, of course, but those are kind of the most important in terms of Democratic Socialism.

    Exhibit 1 is more of a European model. Except for the television part--- to a certain extent. 

    Exhibit 2 can be easily solved by making all corporations worth XY amount of money to simply employ an ESOP strategy. More ownership by employees means greater wealth for the employees and higher influence with regard to corporate officials salaries. 

     

    Sound reasonable? 

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  10. 1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

    Almost all of us agree that TRUMP is bad.

    Almost all of us want him gone ASAP.

    There are many ways to achieve this (impeachment/removal in a GOP-controlled Congress (lol), a 2020 defeat (less likely than we think), and 2024 bringing out the two-term limit so we can elect President Ben Sasse of the Republicans Who Are Totally Not Trump Party).

    There is disagreement as to how this can happen. In this thread, I hope we can argue in circles about 2018. But even more, I hope we can articulate what we want a post-Trump future to look like.

    GO!

    (Hopefully this helps the offending derail in the TRUMP!!! thread)

    Please define what you see as the platform for a democratic socialist. Yours specifically. I've heard this term tossed around a bit lately and I'm getting varied responses as to what it is truly defined as. 

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  11. 1 minute ago, udaydanceparty said:

    Back on topic...

    I'm curious how anyone can sit here and say our intel community is totally awesome given recent history which includes providing bad intel that lead us to invade Iraq.  The death toll from that fuck up is pretty awful.  Even if you don't get into most recent incidents, it's hard to argue that wasn't a huge knock against the credibility of our intelligence agencies.

    Did everyone completely forget about that or has the decision been made to ignore it?

    Our IC doesn't have a sparkling track record... sure, it's a tough business-- but we've stunk it up in the past. Problem is, we don't ever hear about the shit they got correct, because it's usually kept in that TS-SCI box and lowly pleebs never get to see it. 

    "Meh, all that's left are old Germans and kids...." 

    "China wouldn't dare send troops into Korea..." 

    "The CIA says we can stop the VC from flooding into the south if we bomb the shit out of those trails...." 

    "We can rescue those hostages in Iran if we do this... " 

    "The Berlin wall isn't coming down anytime soon..." 

    "WMD in Iraq....." 

    The list goes on. 

     

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  12. 9 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

     

    Okay.  100,000 dollars from you to me if you have more than one account on this forum.  Go ahead and prove that you do not.

     

    Get in contact with the mod. I'm quite certain he/she can confirm this. Or, you can sit an bump your gums and throw rocks from the safety of your keyboard. 

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  13. 3 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

     

    You can do better than using your sock UdayDanceParty to upvote your posts.

    Or maybe you can't.

     

    $100,000 from me to you sir, if I have more than one account on this forum. Just because you might be used to deushecanoes joining this sight to troll you, doesn't mean I'm one. 

    Flip side of that coin-- do you have the balls to put your money where your mouth is? 

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  14. 9 hours ago, achooloco said:

    well sbc ain't american and it's comedy, so maybe go look for political inspiration where it belongs and not in the entertainment section?

    He's pulling his stunts here in America with the intent of embarrassing Americans. These stunts are of a political nature. And last I checked, news has gone from reporting, to op ed. Even the associated press is getting in on the act of opinion based articles. And for what? Walter Cronkite sitting in front of the camera reading the news aloud doesn't make for revenue generating ratings so let's replace that with 5 people screaming at each other? There's hardly anywhere one can go these days for the straight dope. At first it was frustrating but I've moved to the point where it's just "fuck it. This is who we are....." and it's shitty. CNN doesn't get that their constant bombardment is the reason their ratings are in the toilet. Espn didn't get it even when their numbers fell off a cliff. They doubled down on stupid by re-hiring Keith Olberman who, grant you, in his prime with Dan Patrick on sportsecenter was the shit! But that was when you could watch sports center and not be lambasted by people's opinions on politics and social issues. It's like a fucking echo chamber now. 

    I get it, the direction of our country is important.... but sometimes I just want them to shut the hell up and let me watch highlights. 

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  15. 14 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    Neither.  You're clearly sheeit posting under a new sock.  Although I guess I'd be insulted too if I were you and people knew it. 

    Whatever dude. I've been reading the shag since post a pic that makes you lol was started. Just never participated. Thujone used to make me die laughing with his football art. I've just never felt the need to join or post. After an aggy buddy of mine turned me on to their texags politics board, I started reading over there. Read stuff back on the shag in the cloak room for others perspectives. Call me whatever you want.... 

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