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washparkhorn

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  1. 18 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    That an entire generation of Democrats paying attention to politics for the first time is being instilled with formerly right-wing Cold Warrior values of jingoism, über-patriotism, reverence for security state agencies and prosecutors, a reckless use of the “traitor” accusation to smear one’s enemies, and a belief that neoconservatives embody moral rectitude and foreign policy expertise has long been obvious and deeply disturbing. These toxins will endure far beyond Trump, particularly given the now full-scale unity between the Democratic establishment and neocons.

    Full scale unity between the Democratic establishment and neocons. I remember when some of them were calling for Cheney to be "frog-marched in cuffs" out of the White House. They have become what they hated. 

  2. 32 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

    Osama bin Laden did a lot of damage to this country on 9/11. 

    None more damaging than the immense growth of the national security state.

     "The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work."  This all "amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight."  We chirp endlessly about the Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, the Democrats and Republicans, but this is the Real U.S. Government:  functioning in total darkness, beyond elections and parties, so secret, vast and powerful that it evades the control or knowledge of any one person or even any organization.

    https://www.salon.com/2010/07/19/secrecy_6/

     

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    That an entire generation of Democrats paying attention to politics for the first time is being instilled with formerly right-wing Cold Warrior values of jingoism, über-patriotism, reverence for security state agencies and prosecutors, a reckless use of the “traitor” accusation to smear one’s enemies, and a belief that neoconservatives embody moral rectitude and foreign policy expertise has long been obvious and deeply disturbing.

    These toxins will endure far beyond Trump, particularly given the now full-scale unity between the Democratic establishment and neocons.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/01/03/veteran-nbcmsnbc-journalist-blasts-the-network-for-being-captive-to-the-national-security-state-and-reflexively-pro-war-to-stop-trump/ -long read in the dumbed-down age of tweets, but worth it.

     

  4. Making fun of someone because said person is gay - whether open, closeted, or in denial - is, by definition, homophobic. 

    Not that any of you have done that here. You are criticizing the hypocrisy of a person in deep denial. But that deep denial often times has roots in a culture that abhors homosexuality. And those ugly roots persist because so many remain vehemently opposed to homosexuality. 

    There is a probably a better way to address those poor souls in denial. Many live tortured lives in fear of bigoted and sometimes violent reactions to their true sexuality. 

  5. History will look harshly on reactionary and regressive neoliberal Democrats embracing the authoritarian and totalitarian dismantling of civil liberties in the early 21st Century. They chose to partner with neoconservative Republicans and their disregard for individual liberties.

    Some of you lost sight of the forest because of one orange bush. 

    FISA and Patriot Act reform is necessary. Take the orange plank out of your eye. 

     

    Spoiler

     

     

    Your keeping your step

    In the line

    Got your chin held high and you feel just fine 

    Cause you do 

    What you're told 

    But inside your heart it is black and it's hollow and it's cold 

    Just how deep do you believe? 

    Will you bite the hand that feeds? 

    Will you chew until it bleeds? 

    Can you get up off your knees? 

    Are you brave enough to see? 

    Do you want to change it?

    What if this whole crusade's

    A charade

    And behind it all there's a price to be paid

    For the blood

    On which we dine

    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine

    Just how deep do you believe?

    Will you bite the hand that feeds?

    Will you chew until it bleeds?

    Can you get up off your knees?

    Are you brave enough to see?

    Do you want to change it?

    So naive

    You keep holding on to what you want to believe

    You can see

    But you keep holding on and on and on and on

    Will you bite the hand that feeds you?

    Will you stay down on your knees?

     

  6. ·

    Edited by washparkhorn
    dates for context

    2008 - Cocteau Twins - Carolyn's Fingers - No idea what Elizabeth Fraser is singing, but . . . 

     

    Massive Attack, The Spoils 2016 with Hope Sandoval - beautiful voice . . . and Cate Blanchett doing what she does: 

     

  7. We're out late

    at 4 AM

    he says

    how's the weather, baby?

    how have you been?

    you are gonna get sick

    you don't know when

    they never doubt it

    at 4 AM 

    Paradise on the right

    and what the hell on my left

    And the angel of death

    right behind me 

     

    Paradise on the right

    and what the hell on my left

    And the angel of death just said to God:

    "Un-fuck the world, un-fuck the world

    You stupid girl, you stupid girl"

  8. Individual Buttigieg donors are asking for their money back. #RefundPete is trending on Twitter. How long before he drops out?  

    More importantly, who is the next neoliberal candidate to take a swing at the big time? 

    Or will the "chief" of the Democratic Party finally jump in?  Hillary is shaping the battlefield again for a possible surfacing of her campaign.

  9. 12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Queensberry rules

    Meaningless rules - for you who is privileged enough to not need those rules. 

    Again - the ACLU:

    "When the Justice Department’s Inspector General finds significant concerns regarding flawed surveillance applications concerning the president's campaign advisors, it is clear that this regime lacks basic safeguards and is in need of serious reform. While the report found that there wasn't an improper purpose or initiation of the investigation, it also found significant problems that are alarming from a civil liberties perspective. For instance, the litany of problems with the Carter Page surveillance applications demonstrates how the secrecy shrouding the government’s one-sided FISA approval process breeds abuse. The concerns the Inspector General identifies apply to intrusive investigations of others, including especially Muslims, and far better safeguards against abuse are necessary.

    "The system requires fundamental reforms, and Congress can start by providing defendants subjected to FISA surveillance the opportunity to review the government’s secret submissions. The FBI must also adopt higher standards for investigations involving constitutionally protected sensitive activities, such as political campaigns."

    https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-doj-inspector-general-report-examining-fbi-investigation-trump-campaign

    Real lives hang in the balance, but please - back to your meaningless food fight.

  10. They have become what they hate. They support Trump's refusal to reform FISA.

    The weirdest thing is the Trump DOJ argued in court the program the FBI abused cannot be modified without harming the security of the nation. Yep, the administration that claims the "Deep State" is out to get it showed up in court to argue the Deep State should not have its power curtailed.

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20191008/17514543157/fisa-court-finds-fbi-is-still-violating-fourth-amendment-with-abuse-nsa-collections.shtml

     

  11. Of course I am. 

    For Brisket and the rest of those who think the FISA abuse is no big deal - Here is a Brennan Center report issued before Trump on the FISA Court. We have a problem.

    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) Court is no longer serving its constitutional function of providing a check on the executive branch’s ability to obtain Americans’ private communications. Dramatic shifts in technology and law have changed the role of the FISA Court since its creation in 1978 — from reviewing government applications to collect communications in specific cases, to issuing blanket approvals of sweeping data collection programs affecting millions of Americans.

    Under today’s foreign intelligence surveillance system, the government’s ability to collect information about ordinary Americans’ lives has increased exponentially while judicial oversight has been reduced to near-nothingness. This report concludes that the role of today's FISA Court no longer comports with constitutional requirements, including the strictures of Article III and the Fourth Amendment. The report lays out several steps Congress should take to help restore the FISA Court’s legitimacy.

    The Brennan Center report makes an enormous contribution to our understanding of that mission creep. It explains clearly the history and development of FISA from its enactment following the Church Committee’s exposure of uncontrolled domestic spying by the FBI, through the Patriot Act amendments in the turbulent wake of the 9/11 attacks, to its present form. It explains, with a simplicity and clarity accessible to the layman but supported by a level of detail and citation of authority that will satisfy students of the subject, why in its present form FISA is disturbing to civil libertarians and to constitutional scholars. And it distills its argument into plain, powerful recommendations for FISA’s amendment.

    It is time, and past time, for Congress to give serious attention to the FISA problems that are so clearly documented here, and to act. The Brennan Center’s recommendations are not the only ones that have been put forth, but they are not doctrinaire, my-way-or-the-highway demands. They invite discussion, debate, and even (Heaven forfend) compromise. They need to be carefully considered.

    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-went-wrong-fisa-court

    I guess the Brennan Center is the problem too. You are right brisket - the country is lost, but the culprit may be the face in the mirror.

  12. 22 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    It’s weird that Trump doesn’t go after Bernie like he does Warren, assuming Bernie is a legitimate threat, which I think he is. 

    He thinks calling him a socialist will work. And for the dumbasses, it will. 

  13. 2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

    Is Carter fucking Page really the set of facts that you think best makes the case for strictly scrutinizing the FISA system?

    Yes - since we have little to no access to FISA records in other cases; he is unpopular (despite being an FBI/CIA asset); and the potential for political abuse of the system requires a bright line. 

  14. 16 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

    Nipsey was shot, but it is still part of an unfortunate pattern of rappers dying young. Nipsey was different though. Great in the community. He encouraged kids to stay out of the life that got him to where he was at (part of the rollin’ 60s crips from like age 14). 

    Good to know - gives me another connection into my son's world, which is always helpful.

    I listened to a lot of Juice WRLD because of my son. His Lucid Dreams is one of the saddest songs I have ever heard. It made me worried when my kid broke up with his high school girlfriend. Those can be deep wounds. 

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