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  1. 6 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

    Uh.

    Their methods are largely prolific PPE use, and testing and tracing. They didn’t shut their country down the way we did. They are straddled with the same global economy burden that everyone is, but I think they are in much better shape than most of the world when it comes to their internal economy because they have the virus largely contained.

    They still have people traveling into the country every day. 2 week mandatory self quarantine. Government provides a quarantine kit with food and supplies when you get to your residence/address and follow up with phone calls twice a day. People caught breaking quarantine get deported.

  2. 18 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

    I have always criticized Jones for reaching on position of need and not taking the best player available so I would be a terrible hypocrite for criticizing him now just because I hate Oklahoma. Assuming a trade down was not available, Dallas stood and and took the best player available. It’s what grown up teams do so from that standpoint it’s hard to really find fault in the pick. A lot of scouts think he is the best WR in the entire draft and to have that fall to you at 17 is really very fortunate. 
     

    My only fear is this forces Jones into “reach for position of need mode” for the rest of the draft. They can always still sign a veteran corner or trade for a defensive linemen later on so I hope the trend of taking best player available continues. 

    The way that the first round has fallen I expect a good DB to be there at 51. A lot of surprises from 20 on.

  3. Just now, Gap03 said:

    I've been reading good things about New Zealand.  I'm too old to learn a new language + I like the idea of being out of the way when the nuclear dictatorships / idiocracies throw down in the wake of this. 

    It's a beautiful country from everything I've been told from my friends who've visited(both US and international) and their government seems to care about its people which is always a plus. You can always learn a new language though. Trying to pick up a 3rd and 4th during this down time. 

  4. 6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    When did you start writing for the Atlantic?

    Not quite as nihilistic as you but I'll be a Korean citizen the next time we go through this. 

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  5. 2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

    I think that among the bundle of claims related to the China travel restrictions, the claims worth critical focus are the ones where he puts specific numbers to the number of lives saved.  I've seen claims he put out saying that the travel restriction saved 100s of thousands. That is nonsensical on its face.    

    Those 100s of thousands of lives are inconsequential considering he's saved billions of lives just by being president.

  6. 3 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

    Jeff Passan did an interview about that topic this morning. He said he interviewed an anonymous superstar about this situation and he said “no way in hell am I leaving my family.” Then he called him back the next day and the guy said “actually I talked to my wife, and we agreed. If it means not having to give up a years worth of salary, than she’s ok with me playing.”

     

    With that being said, I don’t see how they could keep playing if even one player tests positive after they start. Very interesting...

     

    Baseball just started back up in Korea. I'm going to assume MLB and most of the major sports are going to be keeping a close eye on how they're handling the situation. 

  7. 12 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

    It should have no effect on what you owe or your refund for your 2020 taxes, whatever the case may be. It's technically a 2020 tax credit that you are getting early in the form of a direct payment. The early payment will be counted against the credit and zero out on your 2020 taxes.

    At least that's what the internet is telling me. I could be very wrong.

    They're going to have to pass a 2nd relief bill before most people even get their checks. 

  8. 3 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

    Just spoke to my mom in Germany.  My cousin doctor in Bamberg finally got her test results, shes negative so shes going back to work.  Cant touch patients for another week though.  She said the Bamberg region has ~250ish cases, only 6 in ICU.  The German military is actually flying in Italian patients due to their ICU availability (German wide, not just Bamberg obviously), which is pretty ballsy IMO.  

    I was thinking about it this morning, I'm really surprised that we haven't instituted some kind of system that limits how and when people can move based on simple stuff like addresses.  We do similar during droughts, these numbers water Mon and Wed, these numbers are Tue and Thur.  Why cant we implement that kind of stuff for going to stores?  You would limit the exposure between areas and keep clusters more contained.  Check DLs or water bills at the door.  

    We could. Other countries already do it for limited supplies like facemasks (South Korea  - they're also providing care packages for people who have to quarantine upon arriving). Our government doesn't have time for things like that when it's peak grifting season.

  9. 6 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

    No.  It presents like the flu.  It presents like pneumonia.  It can present with gi issues.  It can look like the common cold.  Even with our stringent testing we our going to have more negatives than positives.

    And stringent testing is the fucking problem.  We should be testing everyone.  Everyone.  That way we know who to quarantine.  Thats what SOuth Korea is doing and thats why they have been so successful.

    Instead this administration used the two month head-start they had to do fuck-all.

    But now it was strategy?

    The reason this strategy won't work is because Americans are obnoxiously stupid. The reason why Korea's numbers are even as high as they are is because of a cult that deliberately spread it among its members and the general public in an area called Daegu. What's the result when 40% of your country is a cult?

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  10. 22 minutes ago, SameSame said:

    CNN is spot on, he cannot handle questions about accountability.  It spins his brain out of control.

    On the flip side, Korea will be thrilled about the sudden increase of 28 million in the population. They're adept at handling pandemics but the biggest problem they have is a declining birthrate. Thanks Trump.

  11. 46 minutes ago, Jhawkmvp said:

    My family thought I was crazy for returning to South Korea during the height of the outbreak here. When my first flight got canceled back, they thought I would stay in the USA until this whole thing blew over. Instead, I hopped on a plane back to SK the next day. My reasoning was that it would hit America much harder than SK eventually. First, America's president and administration are a bunch of frothing morons who were not preparing or taking things seriously at the time (the end of February). While SK at that time was massively testing and implementing measures to slow the spread of the outbreak there. Second, SK has universal health care and the USA doesn't, so in SK people, when they get an inkling of any kind of illness, they head to the doctor so cases would get found out quicker and are isolated, compared to the USA where many people avoid going to the doctor unless they are very sick just due to cost, even when they have health coverage. Third, Koreans are group oriented, which has drawbacks at times, but in this case is a huge positive because they do things to protect the group like wearing masks to protect others, easily accepted social distancing, and they are cleaner than Americans, in general, so hand washing/sanitizing is easier to implement. Whereas, many Americans hate being told what to do or having their movement restricted, even to help themselves and others. Throw in that the average Korean is in better health than the average American and their medical system was less likely to be overwhelmed due to less people having complications that make COVID-19 more deadly.

    The people here have handled it much better than Americans. No runs on supplies. Stores have masks and sanitizer for sale.  Stores still have everything they always had here, including TP, just there are less people out on the streets running around as people stay home as much as possible. And when they go out most are wearing masks.  I could still get it (we all very likely will be exposed to it sooner or later before a vaccine or cure is developed), and possibly die here. But at least I know I will be tested, cared for, and at the end ventilated, if it comes to that.

    Hope you and yours remain healthy and avoid the worst of this pandemic. Take care and good luck..

    Just to add on to this. The government there finds solutions when things do run short and implements it quickly.  Masks were in high demand so they set up a system so that people each week buy masks according to the last digit of their birth year on a specific day. Limit 2 and they cost a buck. 

  12. On 3/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, Anastasis said:
     

    Mandatory quarantine for all entries is absolutely the right call.  If I read correctly in the article, they enacted that on Sunday. That could have made a difference back in January here, but assholes wouldn't have complied with a voluntary one.  We would have had to lock people down.  That should be implemented immediately to prevent additional waves entering, just as they did in SK. 

    Does anybody have a chronological listing of the SK measures similar to what Dixon posted for the Czech measures upthread?

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-14/south-koreas-rapid-coronavirus-testing-far-ahead-of-the-u-s-could-be-a-matter-of-life-and-death

    This article should give you a good idea why they're so far ahead of the US in dealing with this. They started preparing for this years ago. 

    Their measures would also never properly translate here because of the differences in cultural mentality and a general public trust in the government to do what's best for their citizens.

  13. 55 minutes ago, zork said:

    I wasn't sure how to vote all day.  When I woke up this morning I decided to see how the US figures thus far compared with the most populous regions of the EU till it got close in population in total.  Then I took Italy out of the mix as an outlier.  Seems Trump, and USA, USA medicine, is killing it.

    EU vs USA      rounded population   total cases

    germany        81 mm        50 k    
    france        65 mm        33 k    
    italy         60 mm        86 k    
    spain         46 mm        65 k    
    poland        38 mm        1 k    
    romania        21 mm        1 k    
    netherlands    16 mm        8 k    

    totals with italy        327 mm        244 k

    totals minus italy   267 mm     158k 

    usa        330 mm        104 k

     

    pop numbers:  eu pop numbers by country

    cases via JH RC

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

     

    Let me try the same test your're trying.

    Asia V US

    Japan 127 MM 2200

    Korea 51 MM 9500

    Taiwan  24 MM 300

    Indonesia 264 MM 1200

    TOTALS 466 MM  13,200

    USA 330 MM 104,000 w an arrow pointed straight up.

    Sounds like your orange king is doing a great job.

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