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22 minutes ago, SameSame said:
CNN is spot on, he cannot handle questions about accountability. It spins his brain out of control.
On the flip side, Korea will be thrilled about the sudden increase of 28 million in the population. They're adept at handling pandemics but the biggest problem they have is a declining birthrate. Thanks Trump.
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21 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:
What?
At the end of yesterday there were 30,861 deaths.
There are currently 33,976. That's a difference of 3,115.
I think he's specifically talking US deaths.
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5 minutes ago, 6th Street said:
Do you work for a memory maker?
Most Americans who work over there are English teachers but Jhawk could be an exception.
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46 minutes ago, Jhawkmvp said:
My family thought I was crazy for returning to South Korea during the height of the outbreak here. When my first flight got canceled back, they thought I would stay in the USA until this whole thing blew over. Instead, I hopped on a plane back to SK the next day. My reasoning was that it would hit America much harder than SK eventually. First, America's president and administration are a bunch of frothing morons who were not preparing or taking things seriously at the time (the end of February). While SK at that time was massively testing and implementing measures to slow the spread of the outbreak there. Second, SK has universal health care and the USA doesn't, so in SK people, when they get an inkling of any kind of illness, they head to the doctor so cases would get found out quicker and are isolated, compared to the USA where many people avoid going to the doctor unless they are very sick just due to cost, even when they have health coverage. Third, Koreans are group oriented, which has drawbacks at times, but in this case is a huge positive because they do things to protect the group like wearing masks to protect others, easily accepted social distancing, and they are cleaner than Americans, in general, so hand washing/sanitizing is easier to implement. Whereas, many Americans hate being told what to do or having their movement restricted, even to help themselves and others. Throw in that the average Korean is in better health than the average American and their medical system was less likely to be overwhelmed due to less people having complications that make COVID-19 more deadly.
The people here have handled it much better than Americans. No runs on supplies. Stores have masks and sanitizer for sale. Stores still have everything they always had here, including TP, just there are less people out on the streets running around as people stay home as much as possible. And when they go out most are wearing masks. I could still get it (we all very likely will be exposed to it sooner or later before a vaccine or cure is developed), and possibly die here. But at least I know I will be tested, cared for, and at the end ventilated, if it comes to that.
Hope you and yours remain healthy and avoid the worst of this pandemic. Take care and good luck..
Just to add on to this. The government there finds solutions when things do run short and implements it quickly. Masks were in high demand so they set up a system so that people each week buy masks according to the last digit of their birth year on a specific day. Limit 2 and they cost a buck.
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On 3/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, Anastasis said:
Mandatory quarantine for all entries is absolutely the right call. If I read correctly in the article, they enacted that on Sunday. That could have made a difference back in January here, but assholes wouldn't have complied with a voluntary one. We would have had to lock people down. That should be implemented immediately to prevent additional waves entering, just as they did in SK.
Does anybody have a chronological listing of the SK measures similar to what Dixon posted for the Czech measures upthread?
This article should give you a good idea why they're so far ahead of the US in dealing with this. They started preparing for this years ago.
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55 minutes ago, zork said:
I wasn't sure how to vote all day. When I woke up this morning I decided to see how the US figures thus far compared with the most populous regions of the EU till it got close in population in total. Then I took Italy out of the mix as an outlier. Seems Trump, and USA, USA medicine, is killing it.
EU vs USA rounded population total cases
germany 81 mm 50 k
france 65 mm 33 k
italy 60 mm 86 k
spain 46 mm 65 k
poland 38 mm 1 k
romania 21 mm 1 k
netherlands 16 mm 8 ktotals with italy 327 mm 244 k
totals minus italy 267 mm 158k
usa 330 mm 104 k
pop numbers: eu pop numbers by country
cases via JH RC
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Let me try the same test your're trying.
Asia V US
Japan 127 MM 2200
Korea 51 MM 9500
Taiwan 24 MM 300
Indonesia 264 MM 1200
TOTALS 466 MM 13,200
USA 330 MM 104,000 w an arrow pointed straight up.
Sounds like your orange king is doing a great job.
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1 minute ago, Helobious said:
I think that was before they realized there’s 2 different strains.
Yeah realized that after checking some more recent articles.
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1 minute ago, akhornfan said:
You’re posting from 3 weeks ago in an emerging situation?
No...someone asked me where I got that number from. I read it in late Feb and was just pointing out the article.
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18 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:
Show your work.This was the article from late Feb.
Edited because that 14% number came from a specific province. Not all of China.
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3 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:
I dont think we have seen anywhere that once you "get" Covid you are then immune to it afterwards. your post assumes that. and its not a good assumption at this time.
This is definitely not true. People have gotten reinfected at a rate of something like 14% in China from data in late Feb.
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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:
He said he doesn't own stock.
Makes sense. He's much better at straight scamming people.
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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
Not happening today
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/22/coronavirus-stimulus-congress-struggles-to-reach-a-deal.html
Currently, it would be a credit against your future taxes, but that could easily change
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/heres-how-your-rescue-check-from-the-government-could-be-taxed.html
It'd be awesome to have some decency but that seems to be in as rare as ventilators.
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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:
1234. This thing could be torpedoed because of that. They should have done the payments to Americans/families as its own little bill instead of tying it to all of this other stuff.
Also, they need to clarify to Americans if this is from this year’s (2020j taxes - I’ve seen them taking about this basically being an advanced tax refund (reducing your refund next year) or being counted against next year’s taxes. So it doesn’t sound like it’s free money like some are claiming. But again, a lot of stuff is being tossed out by Mnuchin, Mitchell. Etc. and no clear idea on where it’s coming from.
The bill in current form has absolutely no business being passed. You're right about it being it's own little bill but that would require people in DC to do the right thing.
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1 hour ago, VABuckeye said:
Listening to Cuomo speak. He's not playing the political blame game. Quite the opposite. He's saying that the parties are working together and that the political red tape needs to be cut. He also emphasized that a bill about Coronavirus needs to be about relief only with no pork. Money where money needs to go to those in need.
No chance of that happening unfortunately.
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So basically everyone in the government is on the UBI train now? Only the Dems could screw up something that one of their own was championing but could wind up giving Trump a boost in his election chances.
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Just now, Huckleberry said:
Turns out this was a massive opportunity for the Democrats but will be more difficult with Biden, who is a known comfortable bank buddy, on the ticket.
Imagine advertisements in the midwest asking this: "Would you rather have your $18,000 in your family of four's bank account so you can decide where it's 'injected into the economy' or would you rather have bank executives in Manhattan decide if and when they'll be so kind to loan you some of it with interest?"
Dammit I wish Warren didn't suck as a politician.
Outside of Yang, which Democrat would actually do this?
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1 hour ago, F250 said:
Well, at the rate things are escalating we'll have a President Yang in 2024.
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3 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:
How the hell are they even having cruises still?
Americans are incredibly stupid.
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3 hours ago, Pancho said:
Just ONE time. PLEASE.
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Seems to be a requirement for that family.
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Look on the bright side fellas. We are going to have a plethora of coding coal miners soon. I don't particularly like Biden (senile) or Sanders but luckily they're running against the biggest turd living on the planet so it's an easy choice. Took an exit poll for the first time in my life and my only priority is getting the R's and Trump out of office as quickly as possible.
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What is it about her that reaches you, Celine? Genuinely curious. I've seen her at every debate but nothing she or Pete does inspires anything at all in me. I just expect more of the previous status quo with these two. Klob is even more of a turn off for me because she's approved Trump judges at extremely high rates. Like David, I'd only vote for her or Pete if they are the nominee.
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Guess I'm supporting whoever is gonna punish the hell out this current administration and then keep going from there. Knew it was over when he seriously underperformed in the debates last week.
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On 1/26/2020 at 1:47 AM, Al Czervik said:
Saw it today and it was great. I would watch it again with recent releases like Uncut Gems and 1917.
So many questions and observations made in this thread makes the film more intriguing. Catching the pre-movie Birth Movies Death at Alamo gave a little insight to the director for me as I had not seen any of his films. Go in with an open mind and prepare to be shocked/surprised and not disappointed.
side note: the ‘wealthy’ Mom was hot as balls. And her hot Mom friends that were invited over for the party.....oh myyyyy. Makes Al want to relocate South of the 38th parallel. Al like watching the LPGA for a reason.
You can see "more" of her in some of her past films.
The ServantObsessed
The Concubine
I used to watch her in a couple of dramas and variety shows so I was pretty shocked to see her in those movies from what I saw of her personality.
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The reason this strategy won't work is because Americans are obnoxiously stupid. The reason why Korea's numbers are even as high as they are is because of a cult that deliberately spread it among its members and the general public in an area called Daegu. What's the result when 40% of your country is a cult?