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  1. 6 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

    No.  It presents like the flu.  It presents like pneumonia.  It can present with gi issues.  It can look like the common cold.  Even with our stringent testing we our going to have more negatives than positives.

    And stringent testing is the fucking problem.  We should be testing everyone.  Everyone.  That way we know who to quarantine.  Thats what SOuth Korea is doing and thats why they have been so successful.

    Instead this administration used the two month head-start they had to do fuck-all.

    But now it was strategy?

    The reason this strategy won't work is because Americans are obnoxiously stupid. The reason why Korea's numbers are even as high as they are is because of a cult that deliberately spread it among its members and the general public in an area called Daegu. What's the result when 40% of your country is a cult?

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  2. 22 minutes ago, SameSame said:

    CNN is spot on, he cannot handle questions about accountability.  It spins his brain out of control.

    On the flip side, Korea will be thrilled about the sudden increase of 28 million in the population. They're adept at handling pandemics but the biggest problem they have is a declining birthrate. Thanks Trump.

  3. 46 minutes ago, Jhawkmvp said:

    My family thought I was crazy for returning to South Korea during the height of the outbreak here. When my first flight got canceled back, they thought I would stay in the USA until this whole thing blew over. Instead, I hopped on a plane back to SK the next day. My reasoning was that it would hit America much harder than SK eventually. First, America's president and administration are a bunch of frothing morons who were not preparing or taking things seriously at the time (the end of February). While SK at that time was massively testing and implementing measures to slow the spread of the outbreak there. Second, SK has universal health care and the USA doesn't, so in SK people, when they get an inkling of any kind of illness, they head to the doctor so cases would get found out quicker and are isolated, compared to the USA where many people avoid going to the doctor unless they are very sick just due to cost, even when they have health coverage. Third, Koreans are group oriented, which has drawbacks at times, but in this case is a huge positive because they do things to protect the group like wearing masks to protect others, easily accepted social distancing, and they are cleaner than Americans, in general, so hand washing/sanitizing is easier to implement. Whereas, many Americans hate being told what to do or having their movement restricted, even to help themselves and others. Throw in that the average Korean is in better health than the average American and their medical system was less likely to be overwhelmed due to less people having complications that make COVID-19 more deadly.

    The people here have handled it much better than Americans. No runs on supplies. Stores have masks and sanitizer for sale.  Stores still have everything they always had here, including TP, just there are less people out on the streets running around as people stay home as much as possible. And when they go out most are wearing masks.  I could still get it (we all very likely will be exposed to it sooner or later before a vaccine or cure is developed), and possibly die here. But at least I know I will be tested, cared for, and at the end ventilated, if it comes to that.

    Hope you and yours remain healthy and avoid the worst of this pandemic. Take care and good luck..

    Just to add on to this. The government there finds solutions when things do run short and implements it quickly.  Masks were in high demand so they set up a system so that people each week buy masks according to the last digit of their birth year on a specific day. Limit 2 and they cost a buck. 

  4. On 3/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, Anastasis said:
     

    Mandatory quarantine for all entries is absolutely the right call.  If I read correctly in the article, they enacted that on Sunday. That could have made a difference back in January here, but assholes wouldn't have complied with a voluntary one.  We would have had to lock people down.  That should be implemented immediately to prevent additional waves entering, just as they did in SK. 

    Does anybody have a chronological listing of the SK measures similar to what Dixon posted for the Czech measures upthread?

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-14/south-koreas-rapid-coronavirus-testing-far-ahead-of-the-u-s-could-be-a-matter-of-life-and-death

    This article should give you a good idea why they're so far ahead of the US in dealing with this. They started preparing for this years ago. 

    Their measures would also never properly translate here because of the differences in cultural mentality and a general public trust in the government to do what's best for their citizens.

  5. 55 minutes ago, zork said:

    I wasn't sure how to vote all day.  When I woke up this morning I decided to see how the US figures thus far compared with the most populous regions of the EU till it got close in population in total.  Then I took Italy out of the mix as an outlier.  Seems Trump, and USA, USA medicine, is killing it.

    EU vs USA      rounded population   total cases

    germany        81 mm        50 k    
    france        65 mm        33 k    
    italy         60 mm        86 k    
    spain         46 mm        65 k    
    poland        38 mm        1 k    
    romania        21 mm        1 k    
    netherlands    16 mm        8 k    

    totals with italy        327 mm        244 k

    totals minus italy   267 mm     158k 

    usa        330 mm        104 k

     

    pop numbers:  eu pop numbers by country

    cases via JH RC

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

     

    Let me try the same test your're trying.

    Asia V US

    Japan 127 MM 2200

    Korea 51 MM 9500

    Taiwan  24 MM 300

    Indonesia 264 MM 1200

    TOTALS 466 MM  13,200

    USA 330 MM 104,000 w an arrow pointed straight up.

    Sounds like your orange king is doing a great job.

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  6. 18 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

     


    Show your work.

     

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-reinfection-explainer/explainer-coronavirus-reappears-in-discharged-patients-raising-questions-in-containment-fight-idUSKCN20M124

    This was the article from late Feb. 

    Edited because that 14% number came from a specific province. Not all of China.

     

  7. 2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    It'd be awesome to have some decency but that seems to be in as rare as ventilators.

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  8. 1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

    1234.   This thing could be torpedoed because of that.  They should have done the payments to Americans/families as its own little bill instead of tying it to all of this other stuff.  

    Also, they need to clarify to Americans if this is from this year’s (2020j taxes - I’ve seen them taking about this basically being an advanced tax refund (reducing your refund next year) or being counted against next year’s taxes.   So it doesn’t sound like it’s free money like some are claiming.   But again, a lot of stuff is being tossed out by Mnuchin, Mitchell. Etc. and no clear idea on where it’s coming from.   

    The bill in current form has absolutely no business being passed. You're right about it being it's own little bill but that would require people in DC to do the right thing.

  9. 1 hour ago, VABuckeye said:

    Listening to Cuomo speak.  He's not playing the political blame game.  Quite the opposite.  He's saying that the parties are working together and that the political red tape needs to be cut.  He also emphasized that a bill about Coronavirus needs to be about relief only with no pork.  Money where money needs to go to those in need.

    No chance of that happening unfortunately. 

  10. Just now, Huckleberry said:

    Turns out this was a massive opportunity for the Democrats but will be more difficult with Biden, who is a known comfortable bank buddy, on the ticket.

    Imagine advertisements in the midwest asking this: "Would you rather have your $18,000 in your family of four's bank account so you can decide where it's 'injected into the economy' or would you rather have bank executives in Manhattan decide if and when they'll be so kind to loan you some of it with interest?"

    Dammit I wish Warren didn't suck as a politician.

    Outside of Yang, which Democrat would actually do this? 

  11. Look on the bright side fellas. We are going to have a plethora of coding coal miners soon. I don't particularly like Biden (senile) or Sanders but luckily they're running against the biggest turd living on the planet so it's an easy choice. Took an exit poll for the first time in my life and my only priority is getting the R's and Trump out of office as quickly as possible.

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  12. What is it about her that reaches you, Celine? Genuinely curious. I've seen her at every debate but nothing she or Pete does inspires anything at all in me. I just expect more of the previous status quo with these two. Klob is even more of a turn off for me because she's approved Trump judges at extremely high rates. Like David, I'd only vote for her or Pete if they are the nominee.

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  13. On 1/26/2020 at 1:47 AM, Al Czervik said:

    Saw it today and it was great. I would watch it again with recent releases like Uncut Gems and 1917.  
    So many questions and observations made in this thread makes the film more intriguing.  Catching the pre-movie Birth Movies Death at Alamo gave a little insight to the director for me as I had not seen any of his films.  Go in with an open mind and prepare to be shocked/surprised and not disappointed. 
     

    side note: the ‘wealthy’ Mom was hot as balls. And her hot Mom friends that were invited over for the party.....oh myyyyy. Makes Al want to relocate South of the 38th parallel.  Al like watching the LPGA for a reason. 

    You can see "more" of her in some of her past films. 

    The Servant 

    Obsessed

    The Concubine

    I used to watch her in a couple of dramas and variety shows so I was pretty shocked to see her in those movies from what I saw of her personality.

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