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  1. Just now, maninblack said:


    By saying we shouldn't bomb Syria I'm aligning with Putin is like saying I'm siding with North Korea because we shouldn't bomb them either.

    No. By believing the story that Russian state media is peddling over the entire Western world you’re aligning with Putin. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, maninblack said:


    Yeah probably. I'm under no illusion that he's some awesome guy.

    The reason I asked you that question is Saddam did all the things you accuse Assad of and yes he deserved to die for his crimes against humanity. That said invading Iraq, even if it had been originally sold on the pretense he was a bad guy, led to more loss of human life and a still destabilized country.

    If you want to argue that folks who commit crimes against humanity deserve to die I'm down with that. Typically, a lot of people have to die to make that happen though and we have a lot of stink on us too.

    “Why does Assad deserve to die”

     

  3. 16 minutes ago, VRHorn said:

    Nope, we should not, in a vacuum. The issue is that Assad has no compunction about killing every Syrian he can. As with everything else in the ME, there are no right answers. That said, the moral argument for attacking Assad is pretty solid.

    the whole “no evidence” bit is something you haven’t fully answered. Either Assad has a history of gassing his people or he doesn’t- the preponderance of the evidence is that he did.

    Still unanswered

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  4. Never once did I advocate invading Iraq or Syria. I simply said Pods answered that discussion well. I disagree with some of his opinions. I do think however we needed to respond to what has happened.

    Do you believe Assad deserves to die?

  5. 10 minutes ago, maninblack said:


    I'm not white knighting Assad and I have not ignored the arguments. I've rejected them. The logic behind the given story makes no sense. But hey maybe he's not a logical actor and just when he's about to defeat ISIS he uses chemical weapons roughly 5-10 miles away from the capital knowing that'll likely provoke a response. So the argument for striking Assad has boiled down to he used chemical weapons that harmed and killed civilians.

    My question back is if you believe that do you believe the US should kill more Syrians by launching an offensive eventhough we were not attacked and no evidence has been provided up to this point?

    You can disagree with whether or not we should be involved. That question has been discussed and answered pretty well by Pods. 

    Even if your conspiracy theory is right, which I’m glad to see you trust Russian media but not the US, this isn’t he first time. Assad has committed multiple war crimes. You literally asked why Assad deserved to die. That’s white knighting. He deserves to die for numerous other war crimes he has committed. 

    And yea, maybe the guy murdering children isn’t a logical actor.

  6. 4 minutes ago, maninblack said:

    Again you fail to answer the question and choose instead to attack me. I'm not arguing that Assad isn't a bad actor but if you're going to argue he needs to die at the hands of the United States military I'd like to hear the rationale. Is that unreasonable?

    I’d like to hear rationale for why you’re white knighting a war criminal who has murdered and tortured civilians. 

    People have presented plenty of arguments for why the United States military should be involved. You ignore it because you’re too busy carrying water for Assad and Putin.

  7. 1 minute ago, maninblack said:

    Jesus dude we just dropped ordnance on a country probably killing a lot of civilians and you're fucking bent out of shape about a god damn pizza place that I said was weird. Come back to reality

    That’s the fucking point. You don’t trust anything the government or media or experts tell you but you trust fucking Alex Jones. And then you act like you’re better than everyone when called on your bullshit.

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  8. 37 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

    I may be wrong, but I interpreted LH's comment to be an indictment of the change, not a misunderstanding of it. "It makes no sense" to have a fair catch shy of the 25 be a touchback. Because, you know, it doesn't. It's a stupid rule change.

    It’s a good change if the goal is to prevent players having brain damage.

  9. 10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    It would be nice if we'd stop prosecuting the Coutinho shit over and over. He's gone and this team is doing okay without him. If you had told me before he was sold that we'd be top 4 in the EPL with CL assured for next season and a chance to go to the UCL finals, all without him, I'd be perfectly fine with him being gone. It all worked out. LFC fans, let it go.

     

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  10. MIB and I rarely agree on virtually anything but I don’t think he’s bitching about Coutinho being sold. He’s just pointing out that there’s no reason to pretend Coutinho wasn’t our best midfield player. 

    And Mo isn’t an attacking midfielder. He’s a forward. Coutinho puts Ox on the bench if he’s here. 

    Do I think losing Coutinho has negatively effected the team? Obviously not. Do I think Klopp would still love to have him? Absolutely. Klopp may not target him on the open market but he certainly fits the style of play Klopp plays. People seem to want to retroactively pretend that he didn’t work hard while here which is false. He pressed well when playing forward and he was our most effective player at advancing the ball through midfield which is something Klopp clearly values.

  11. 5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


    Correct. And that will be a GOP candidate who sounds like Trump. As all GOO candidates will within 4-6 years. All Trumpism. Only Trumpism. They obtained a party, they ain’t giving it back.

    Yep. Until this brand of politics is killed off by continuously losing, and being shamed, we will have new versions of Trump over and over.

  12. 2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Their excuse has been “We should let Mueller finish his investigation.”

    Which is actually a good excuse.

    He fired Comey and admitted to obstructing justice. He has repeatedly violated the emoluments clause. They had plenty of chances before Mueller was even appointed and they have crumbled time and again. Forgive me if I don’t have much faith in the GOP to do their fucking job.

  13. Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Perhaps the Republicans are being strategic by not protecting Mueller.

    Like setting a trap for Trump to walk in so they can impeach him without consequences.

    I’m telling you, there’s nothing the bulk of the GOP wants more than a good excuse to get rid of this motherfucker.

    They’ve had plenty of excuses. They have no spine and won’t do shit.

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  14. 10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    Bush and Cheney managed not to go to prison for war crimes. Nixon never spent a day in jail. Reagan Alzheimered his way out of being found complicit in Iran-Contra and there's no way in hell former director of the CIA Bush 41 didn't know what was going on. No one is getting away with anything more than the Republicans. 

    This was my point.

    10 minutes ago, JBJ said:

    He got impeached for perjury and obstruction, the latter of which he clearly did and the former depends on the definition of "is."

    But there's a million others: Edwards, Nixon, Kruger, Rangel, Ted Kennedy, and that's just recent mentions on this site.

    Yes he did indeed perjure himself... about a blowjob.

    Unless Trump ends up in prison then he will have been treated no worse than anyone else. 

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