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Posts posted by hobbes2702
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3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
Did you read any of those articles at all? I bet not.
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4 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:
also, as an employer, paying people under the table isn't exactly...legal. it's really amazing that he decries the very thing that he's taking advantage of. the fact that he doesn't see that or simply doesn't care is incredible.
"undocumented workers shouldn't be here, but if they are pay them in cash!"
we should let the haitians in. this is what i never understand about the refugee "hordes."
my stance has always kind of been "you know, why don't we let them in?"
Seriously I would love for someone to list some negative impacts of immigration
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3 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:
No one gets hurt in prison ever. It’s a pleasant place. Much safer than being around someone with Covid.
No one claimed that people don’t get hurt in prison.
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Just now, Biff Tannen said:
Oh, you meant illegal doctors? Cool, cool.
Seriously how hard is this lol
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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:
I don’t know what your fishing for but I’ll give it some thought on the ride home today.
You need time to understand why undocumented workers might have trouble getting white collar jobs?
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Just now, Don Johnson said:
I’m not the one arguing that a murderer who has been arrested is no longer harming anyone and deserves to live yet a Covid patient in the hospital is such a danger that we should root for them to die.
Who is the imprisoned murderer still harming? Seems like you skipped that step
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2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
I have no problem with immigrants. But maybe we can mix in some fucking doctors and lawyer immigrants? There’s 10 lawn and maid crews in my neighborhood everyday, think we’ve got that covered.
America. Will bulldoze (literally for you voters in Austin) our own poor to make room for more poor.
13% of undocumented workers hold “white collar” jobs. I’m sure you can think of some reasons why that number isn’t higher.
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12 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
Let’s live in your fairytale world that they all do, and you’ve got all the facts. Net benefit to our tax, school, and healthcare system or no.
I’m sure some research would yield you some answers. Or you can continue posting your uninformed nonsense. They pay billions of dollars into government programs that they will never be eligible to use. Now do the same for the wealthy in this country.
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11 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
It’s up to them and their moral compass to pay what they owe.
So you’re still pretending that immigrants don’t pay taxes huh
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6 minutes ago, mchookem said:
bitching about immigrants not paying income tax while simultaneously bragging about paying immigrants with cash so they can avoid paying income tax. i did not have that on my bingo card.
Every accusation…
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Just now, fattyflattie said:
Link? Noborders.com need not apply
Try the congressional budget office. Fucking moron
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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:
Well shit, looks like we need to throw your ass in jail.
The pimp complaining the prostitutes don’t pay enough.
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Just now, fattyflattie said:
I’m under the impression the ones that I pay only take cash, which I’m sure they paying their income tax on. They just want cash for…reasons.
So you continue to do the anecdotal thing instead of looking at the data which show that 50-75% of undocumented immigrants pay local, state, and federal taxes. They also have to buy things which means they pay taxes.
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21 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
I’m just excited for the boon of economic activity and taxes these folks will provide for our country. What an economic windfall, we are truly blessed. Don’t know why y’all have to be whipping this, roping that, cracker cracker negative fuckers.
Are you under the impression immigrants don’t pay taxes or get jobs?
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Yea weird hill, I don’t usually make it a point to defend crackers with “well they were just threatening to do it”.
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14 hours ago, Satoshi said:
You’re right. It’s probably the sample size, not the conditions on the ground.
We’ve had a massive influx of illegals coming across the entire year. People that live on the border and are used to illegals crossing are overwhelmed by what’s going on. I would bet my last dime that every person on this thread that acts like this is no big deal is far removed from what’s going on.
What are the overwhelmed by?
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14 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:
Man Utd and Liverpool should rescue Sterling from Man City 'wilderness' – Ferdinand
I’d take him back in a heartbeat despite how he left. We’d have the best attack in the world if we added him.
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Look you clearly don’t want to actually learn anything about this topic. You want to be the tough on crime guy and ignore what that actually means. You throw out claim after claim that are unsupported and don’t care to learn.
And to be clear, you brought up the demographics as a reason for why we can’t be Norway. So you just said it with no understanding of what that meant? I guess that shouldn’t be a surprise but it would be nice for you to explain the position you took since it was essentially you saying that black people commit crimes and can’t be rehabilitated. -
6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
I'm still waiting to know if they can work with your kids, wife, or in your home. Kinda glossed over that post, huh?
I have more than one ex convict that I work with everyday and have been in my home.
That’s also irrelevant to the large scale problems with our system. The issue isn’t can they work with kids. The issue is why are they unable to do so.Tell me again why our demographics should have any effect on recidivism rates? Tell me your solution since anyone convicted of a crime is forever tainted in your mind. What do we as a society, who has to bear the cost both human and financial, with criminals? You continue to focus on “who’s at fault” which really doesn’t matter at all. We as a society have to deal with it so who’s fault it is is pointless
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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:
The US has stunningly different demographics than Norway, for starters. Melting pot and all that. It won't be mistaken for anywhere, here. But you know that.
I assume you mean that it pays better than I think; that is great news. Seems like societal integration just got easier for the ex-con. Because the guys on the back of the trucks here know literally no English - which is fine. That said, it shouldn't be a hard barrier to enter the force as an American born and educated (albeit likely minimally) here. I'm sure there are hundreds more jobs like that. I used it because it's a job that is low paying and deals in literal filth. Does it pay more than committing crimes is the question. If the person chooses additional crime rather than work, I ask again, why should society tolerate it?
No shit we have different demographics. Why should that change our success or lack thereof in rehabilitation? How are those even related?
We have to tolerate it. That’s the point here. We as society deal with the issues of criminals reentering the population. So again, what is your solution since we shouldn’t tolerate it?
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2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
They can teach at your kids school? Work alongside your wife? Clean your house? Yeah, didn't think so.
Ok so what is your solution? Lock them up forever? Kill them?
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2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
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It is not impossible. Oh you can't become a bank manager right out the pen? What an unjust world. You raped and robbed at 22 yo but now think you're entitled to a "good job"? You can sling trash like the guy from Guatemala (who lives for way less than 25k/yr, btw) and do like he does. Oh, easier to rob and steal and sell drugs. Yeah, it's the system that's broken. Fuck outta here.
Not sure what your … is for
No one said it’s impossible. It’s significantly more difficult for those convicted of crimes to break that cycle in this country. We have set up barriers to make it more difficult. Why can other countries solve this but we can’t. I also don’t think you know how much garbage men actually make.
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4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:
Where I grew up, there was like 5 prison farms within 30 miles. Surely, with some thought, these costs can come down. CXW might take a bit of a dive, but wgaf. If the right folks wanted to cost down, it could be accomplished. Just like anything else. Has nothing to do with squalor, although providing cable TV and air-con is still pretty bullshit imo.
Good. I agree. I don't like theft, I fucking hate thieves. But murder/rape/pedo is on a whole other level imo.
sigh.
The only thing I can think of is guaranteed govt jobs on their release, and at that point, have we really saved any money?
If that’s the only thing you think can be done to improve our criminal justice outcomes then I would advise you to do even a basic level of research


DACA, immigration reform whatever
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Cool. So still waiting on that list of the negative impacts of immigration.