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  1. 51 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
    1 hour ago, SaucyJack said:
    The above statement is repeated ad nauseam by naive individuals, who have no concept how law enforcement/criminal justice works in the United States.

    And if a law is unjust, it is your duty to break it.

    Sympathetic - but who determines “injustice?”

  2. 1 minute ago, mdmost said:

    It's obvious you see what you want to see.

    Yeah, that's pretty universal. I am under no impression that I have some kind of unique or special powers. All of us see what we want to see...

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  3. 1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

    Man, those black folks sure are racist against Kanye.

    LOL

    Uppity folks really get under your skin don't they. I'm surprised a so-called crazy person that does not matter is taking up so much space in your head. Why do you think that is?

  4. 1 hour ago, pepper brooks said:

    like others have said Kanye is nutty as a squirrel turd.  I don't really GAF about the thoughts or endorsement of celebs and their political views.  I'd rather not know, frankly.  Their thoughts do not sway my opinions of politicians, nor of the celebrities work in their given craft.  I will give Kanye credit for marching to the beat of his own drum, and refusing to be stuck on the "democrat plantation" that has proven to be a failure as a safe space when it comes to policy impact on minorities.  It's not easy to have independent thought amongst his peer group for sure.  That said, I still don't GAF what his actual views are.  

    This is largely where I landed. As I said in my first post, I could GAF about his opinion but respect anyone willing to be independent. The reaction to his comments on this thread and elsewhere (vs. other crazy stuff he said about George W. Bush and Katrina or other uniformed celebrity opinions for that matter) is curious. Plantation comment not withstanding, it does feel very much like get out of line, you have to deal with the master. It is obviously pricked a nerve with many closeted racists who fear getting uppity.

  5. 14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    To Kyle, being criticized is the same as being arrested by the thought police.

    White fragility

    I’m guessing this is designed to be an emotional deflection to distract from your outrage over Kanye being uppity and speaking out of turn? 

  6. 1 hour ago, hpslugga said:

    That’s a canard. This has absolutely nothing to do with race, just like it has nothing to do with party politics. This has to do with the fact that Kanye West has absolutely nothing meaningful to offer to anyone interested in political discourse, and you’re embarrassing yourself by portraying this as Kanye against the fascists just because he’s “speaking his mind.” When one is out of one’s mind, one is incapable of speaking one’s mind. 

    Again, absolutely every word of this is absolutely wrong. 

    Guessing you prefer Al Jolson?

  7. 1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

    well, actually, that's not true, because kanye's crazy is there no matter the venue. 

    by the way, dude, he called himself a diagnosed mentally ill person. it's a known thing that he's bipolar. 

    he's not well, and that was fairly obvious and on display yesterday. i watched it almost live on tv. he was all over the map, and it's obvious he's trying to fill some hole in himself that he cannot fill with his own self-esteem. we know this because he told us that yesterday.

    it's almost like you like the IDEA of kanye visiting the white house more than what happened yesterday. yesterday was crazytown on display. 

    did you not watch it? if you did, what was your favorite policy point?

    Exactly. I tried to make that explicit in my original post but did not do a great job. I'm not evaluating the content of what he said, but I appreciate anyone who expresses an independent or iconoclastic POV regardless of the context.

  8. 17 hours ago, hpslugga said:

    He’s expressing no such thing. You’re confused.

    He is, and all this MAGA horseshit is a manifestation of that lunacy.

    Oh grow the fuck up and spare the sanctimonious nonsense. There is nothing fascist about calling a spade a spade. Freedom of expression cuts both ways. You have the right to say what you want, and we have the right to call you a fucking idiot for saying such things. No one is calling for his incarceration when he says the stupid shit that he says. All we say is that it’s stupid shit. To call that “fascism” is absolutely dishonest and absolutely wrong.

    It evidently terrifies you because you label people as fascist for calling this moron out for what he is. He’s an imbecilic celebrity who says things like:

     

    He must be getting too uppity for you.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

    Welcome to 2018. Grab a jersey and tell us what team you are on so we can trash you/hug you.

    Seriously. Kanye could have said literally the same thing next to Obama and the same people calling him mentally ill would be endorsing him for president in 2020.

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  10. 16 hours ago, Foosters said:

    He's a mentally ill person who makes music people like. Really not any deeper than that.

    I don't have my doctor of psychology, so I cannot comment on whether he is mentally ill. Does not change the fact that he has the courage to speak against the grain. I mean look how he's being attacked for a thought crime. Anyone who expresses a diverse opinion is not tolerated but ad hom'd - he's mentally ill, so ignore.

  11. On ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 2:47 PM, BNB said:

    You may not agree with his politics.  I love what he is saying.  He wants everyone to think for themselves and vote on what they believe in.

     

    This is what scares many - independent thought. While I have not thought much of him or his music and think he's a megalomaniac loon, I admire anyone willing to express publicly a diverse opinion and face the fascist wrath of his peers. Again, I make no value judgment on the content, but I appreciate anyone willing to not just parrot the simpleton party line on any issue or any party (group, organization, etc.) Free speech and independent thought no matter how inherently correct or incorrect terrifies many.

  12. A lot of really good thoughts on this thread. My guess is the root of the problem is there is not enough money spent on social services. That likely is an easy distraction, and my guess would be that if everyone paid 99.99% income tax there would still be homeless and hungry people. The challenge as noted above IMHO is finding the right incentives, the right way to execute / deliver, and a holistic perspective that includes regulatory, social, and cultural implications. Unfortunately, government is just not really good at that.

  13. I can only speak for me, but I echo sentiments of some others around apathy. I am a Poli Sci major and politics traditionally has been a big part in my life. I used to love debating an discussing issues, and because I am an independent moderate, I usually could have fun engaging folks on both sides of the isle.

    Personally, the tone has become filled with so much hyperbolic hate that it is just not fun anymore. I do not get emotional around politics - I am analytical by nature and like for the numbers to drive the conversation; but as an example this board is 99% emotional screeds so set in a bias that conversation is virtually impossible. In addition, sources of information have all come out of the closet in terms of feigning objectivity, so it is even hard to find decent sources of data without spin. I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but I need more than simpleton talking points that lack nuance and factual basis.

    On top of that, we've become so tribal that principles and issued do not seem to matter - basically whatever T-shirt the person is wearing describes whether 99.99% agree or disagree. I mean, is it the ultimate Bizarro World that we liberals want to suspend due process and bemoan the U.S. is no longer a superpower while conservatives are supporting tariffs and trade wars? It just seems like neither party really has any principles anymore outside the culture war and individuals change positions based on who is supporting or opposing something.

    Okay. Rant over. I do miss the days of discussing principled politics over Marlboro Reds and cheap whiskey, but the Internet has pretty much turned everyone into know-it-all donkeys that believe Socratic debate is screaming louder than the other guy and calling her more outlandish names.

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