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Posts posted by Newdoc
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Just now, Sbbruin said:
A jury may not be so quick to throw the book at you. I know if I was on a panel I would look for every legal reason to let a father go for doing that, or minimize the sentence.
I actually agree but I wouldn’t want to take that chance. I’ve seen a lot of zealous prosecutors go after some seemingly justifiable actions.
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23 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:
As a father, if I see some guy throw any 5 year old off a balcony...
Then what? You get arrested and charged with battery and possibly murder? 10’s of thousands of dollars to a defense attorney later and your ass possibly in jail so your family doesn’t have you at home for 10 plus years.
You have a right to use force to make a perp stop and detain for police. You don’t have the right to kill him especially after the crime has been committed.
I guess it’s okay to vent on a message board and I hope this is mostly just bravado.
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1 hour ago, JohnnyRage said:
As someone who has a three year old and is on a later in life spiritual journey, it's difficult to mentally wrap ones mind around an all powerful loving God. It's similar to thinking about a helpless child being left in their car seat on a blistering hot day.
This is almost makes me want to welcome our facial recognition overlords.
That is a question that will most likely never get a good discussion on this board. I’d suggest you google that up if you are serious about you’re statement.
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9 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:
Was this guy some kin to you? Because that’s a shitty piss poor comparison. Had you said that someone intentionally went the wrong way on the interstate and rammed your family’s car, then yeah kill the fucker.The comparison is to outcome and seeking vigilante justice. Where did this discussion pivot to motive? And you’re depending on news reports to determine facts of this case? The news is highly unreliable.
I’ll agree that my analogy ends up being manslaughter vs homicide but that wasn’t the original part of the discussion. The discussion was about the mob mentality and instantaneous justice and however imperfect our criminal justice system is it still beats witnessing a crime and distributing your own justice on the spot.
And so if the facts are as reported then yes, this guy should go away forever. If his actions were purposeful result in the death of another person and he is not insane then he should face the death penalty.
I don’t have any amicable feelings towards this guy. He appears to be a blight on society. However, I find it disturbing that the mob mentality is to drag a guy out to the parking lot and shoot him in the head.
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18 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:
Fuck yeah we do. Our criminal laws and justice system are almost entirely fear driven. Has to be the least rational of the various legal systems in the US.
We now run it that way. It wasn’t designed that way however.
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2 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:
In what way is driving like an asshole equivalent to throwing a 5 year old over a 3 story ledge?
What if the outcome is the same? The audacity of the crime doesn’t make the results different. Both are purposeful acts. Do you really want to put more relative morality into our justice system? There’s a reason Justitia wears a blindfold. Yeah, it’s a sick crime and falls way outside human behavioral norms but a critical injured child is an injured child no matter the mechanism. Do we punish people based on how much the crime creeps us out or causes outrage?
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If this guy has the mental capacity to know what he was doing then yes, he should go away for a long time, maybe forever. If not then a mental institution would be appropriate and likely ling term. If the kid dies, then yes, he should face the death penalty. But y’all have no real insight into the perp’s mental capacity.
Let’s say you drive like an asshole and cut my family off and they wreck causing injuries. Does someone have the right to instantly be judge and jury and put a “bullet in the back of your skull.” Because I sure would want to, but this crazy concept of the legal system prevents you internet keyboard warriors and me from legally and morally distributing instant justice.
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Well, they can just change the rules. The mormons have been doing it since Mr. Smith started the religion.
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This guy is a menace to society and needs to be put away for a long time unless he can be rehabilitated. His “anger” issues may get him killed in prison however.
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Darwin Award honorable mention.
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Only on Surly does the Falcon Heavy get tucked up into a Pence moon thread. That launch and landing deserves to be a dedicated SpaceX thread.
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Sounds like you should see a doctor. Dr. Surly appears to be all over the map on you. Maybe we could turn it into a betting pool on the actual diagnosis.
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1 minute ago, phdhorn said:
Clearly wasn't his first option. Virginia blocked the cutter coming in towards him @ top of lane.
Should have had a double screen. Way too easy for Virginia to collapse on Culver.
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Not impressed with that final shot play.
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18 hours ago, 4th and 5 said:
FYI if you do Arenal (and you should) here is one of the best hotels in the world to bring your lady friend, same company and next to each other, I've stayed in both and had an extraordinary experience
https://www.arenalnayara.com/index.html
http://www.nayarasprings.com/index.html
I will third that. Trip Advisor doesn’t lie about this place.
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Well, we finally know Shaka’s Surly handle.
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Roach attended The Shaq School of Free Throw Shooting?
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Apparently you can stop “Speed and Strength”. Especially when you blow your budget on non-stop repetitive TV advertising prior to launch.
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41 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:
but I got fucked and now have to go Lexington.
You change your destinations based on if you have sex???
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Oh here’s the Texas team I watched in January and February.
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2 minutes ago, Machinator said:
Not playing Pac-12 teams (sorry).
But still, better ball movement and actually working it inside the last few games. Gotta be a combination of better play overall and meh opponents.
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15 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:
Halfway down page 1 and not one mention of Craig James' mastery.
I don’t think Romo has killed any hookers so that’s an apples to oranges comparison.
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52 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:
If we win the NIT, do we hang a banner?
Sure, hang it in the drum and keep it there through demolition.
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Trivial Things That Make You Surly
in Lulz
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People that save places in line at counter serve restaurants for their 5 family members and two besties. Wait for your party to get there prior to getting in line ahole.