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  1. A while back I was looking at a listing of the final polls by year and noticed how the same teams were at the very top. Did an analysis going back to 1984 (when BYU won) and later extended it to 1968. There are 20 teams that have won 52 of the 54 AP titles in that period (Pitt and BYU the outliers) and have 148 of the 162 top 3 finishes in that period and 227 of the 270 top 5 finishes. Each has at least 5 top 5s (nobody else has more than 3) and at least 2 top 3 (only Tennessee has only 2-only TCU and Pitt outside the group have more than 1-each has 2). 18 of the 20 have a AP MNC and 1 of the others has a coaches poll MNC. Point being, Washington and Oregon are in that group of 20. Of course, UW is the one with a coaches MNC and Oregon is the one without an MNC. Colorado is also in that group of 20. Those 3 along with Tennessee are at the bottom of that group of 20, but are a clear step ahead of the rest of college football over that time frame. The others who aren't going to be in the Big 10 or SEC are Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson and Miami.
  2. Its Bleacher report. That's basically no different than quoting Greg Swaim (which I got all kind of negs for quoting him just for fun while saying he was always fos). My information was from an interview with the Nebraska president and Alcalde interviews with Deloss Dodds when the LHN first came out. I did still have a copy of the July/August 2011 Alcalde for some reason. Didn't see it on the website to link. Website only goes back to 2013. So from the hard copy, P. 36: "in 2006, with the Big 12 nearing the end of its television contract with ABC, Texas and Nebraska hired Prince (Chicago TV consultant, not the guy from Minnesota) to study the feasibility of an all-Big 12 network similar to the Big Ten Network, which the league had just launched in partnership with Fox. When that study indicated in fall 2007 that Texas would be better served going it alone,...." The interviews told how everyone but Texas and Nebraska were uninterested so that is why they funded the study. The Nebraska president claimed (I think in that Omaha News article about a year after the Big Ten move) that they were further along on their network than Texas.
  3. You don't have your facts straight on Nebraska & networks. The vote on the conference network was 10-2 against with Texas and Nebraska being for. Texas and Nebraska jointly funded a study since nobody else would participate. Nebraska, at the time they joined the Big 10, were closer to having a school network than Texas was.
  4. From the Dodd link above: "...That day signaled the end of the Pac-12 as we know it. The league will likely survive but only in some altered form. It could pluck suddenly attractive San Diego State (among others) and become the equivalent of a Mountain West Plus. It could also stay at 10 teams. One Pac-12 AD told CBS Sports that's "the best and only option...."" Based on that Baylor guy's analysis, SDSU is not that attractive. And you know they won't take Boise. I guess the commissioner is right the Big 12 won't take a Pac 12 school. There is no Pac 12. Its a Pac 10 now.
  5. The Big 12 was Dodds baby. He and the OU AD created the conference. He was very much for saving it.
  6. I'd blame Tom Osborne far more than the institution itself.
  7. Kansas was the replacement for A&M. Remember flight tracker? The Pac commissioner stopped in Lawrence.
  8. Good piece. Big 10 didn't need USC and UCLA. They could have waited a decade for ACC schools who fit better rather than flying USC and UCLA women's softball games all around the midwest (to paraphrase our President Powers on why he wasn't interested in Big 10). We don't need a P5, but a P2 is just too few. And at this point the Pac 10 and ACC egos seem to be getting in the way of a logical effort to create a P3 & 4 that are competitive financially (competitive, not anywhere near equal). If the Pac refills with a bunch of MWC schools, the gap vs. the P2 grows. The Pac 12 had the choice to take a bunch of Big 12 schools last summer before expansion, 3 of which they were going to add in 2010.
  9. Oregon and Washington applied to the Big 10 several weeks ago. Every team has reached out to the Big 10 (and every Big 12 and ACC team also according to Big 10 sources).
  10. Well they could have had Texas in 1990, but chose not to. Yeah. Sounds desperate.
  11. Don't know about Dodds, but President Cunningham was never interested. He did talk to the UGA president about it. He was interested in the Big 10 and Pac 10. Big 10 said, call back in 5 years.
  12. They certainly preferred Texas. But they were ready to take aggy in 1990. if you want a reference, there is President Cunningham's book, "The Texas Way," chapter 16. Specifically pages 230-231, "Dodds and I briefed the UT System regents at a board meeting in August 1990 in Odessa, and they gave me an informal nod to proceed with the Pac 10. At that point the board had not discussed the matter in public or taken any votes, but I felt I had their tacit approval to conclude a deal. Mobley was satisfied with our moving west while A&M went east, and both conferences had accepted an arrangement for UT and A&M to continue playing each other on Thanksgiving Day.... The Pac 10 required that its members vote unanimously to accept a new member. I had been assured that this was not a problem and that all the presidents were excited about having UT Austin join the conference. However, at the last minute, Donald Kennedy, president of Stanford, decided he did not want UT to join, and as a result the Pac 10 commissioner, Thomas C. Hansen, called Dodds and withdrew the offer. Hansen was embarrassed that Kennedy had pulled the rug out from under him.... I called each of the regents and explained what had happened. Then I called Mobley, who promptly shut down his discussions with the SEC."
  13. In 1990, the SEC wanted aggy and the Pac except Stanford wanted us. It was on the verge of happening but Stanford vetoed us. In 1994 the SEC did still want aggy. But the Pac and Big 10 weren't interested in Tech. Tech was the anchor then. They had more political power than in 1990. We didn't want the SEC in 1990 and 1994, but they were interested.
  14. Remember. Flugaur is the Dude of Minnesota. His biggest claim to fame is that he likes to troll the Dude of WV. Flugaur talks to this imaginary "Big Ten Man." At least MHVer3 talks to (or reads) fan bloggers who know no more than you or I, but I'm pretty sure they aren't imaginary.
  15. And other than CU's 5th down vs. Missouri, that fumble non-recovery was probably the single worst call I've ever seen.
  16. What happened in 2015? Haven't ever heard that mentioned on this board. You are being facetious, right? The only question is whether the refs were bribed or just hated Charlie Strong and UT. Worst hose job I've ever seen in any sport. It wasn't just one or two bad calls for Okie St.
  17. In football. That was always the issue with the UT to the Big 10. Did we really want to play Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana and Purdue? And was Iowa that much better than Kansas St.?
  18. So Chip is just repeating what he heard and not understanding it. Its like reading the Dude of WV. The Big 12 is currently earning about $28 million a year on media rights. The conference distributed $42.6 million per school last year from all sources. So are the experts saying their media will be $30-$35 with distributions of $45-$50 or are they saying it will be $20-$25 with distributions of $30-$35? Those are big differences. That $32 million long term deal for the Pac was something MHVer3 said. So is that Chip's source????
  19. Yes. Although President Cunningham did say TCU was in the running for spot #12. He did not consider UH.
  20. Kind of like the LHN killed the Pac 16 deal. Another internet myth that refuses to die. Along with the Big 12 had the most unequal revenue sharing and that broke up the conference when the 6 who have left are among the 7 haves who favored unequal revenue sharing. When USC was making 3 times what Washington St. was in the Pac 12 and similar for Miami and Temple in the Big East, but the range in the Big 12 was something like $7 million to $11 million. Now aggy and corn aggy gave reason for another myth, that A&M and Nebraska left the Big 12 because of Texas and unequal revenue sharing-and that CU and MU did as well. But when you listen to their presidents after the fact, that's another internet myth.
  21. The ACC expansion was Miami, Syracuse and BC. They publicly toured the Syracuse campus. Then the politicians told UVA they had to vote no unless VT was included. So UVA joined Duke and UNC in opposing Miami until VT was included. The next year BC got in. Syracuse was left holding the bag.
  22. Ann Richards had nothing to do with it. Zero. Zilch. It was Bob Bullock, Lt. Gov.
  23. Yeah. I saw somebody, I think on FtT take apart the Navigate numbers and analyze them. Its not that hard if you read the whole thing and have a couple hours. Now that quick and dirty analysis that took 40% off the top on the Pac wasn't right, but that was pretty obvious. It was only 40% off TV money-basically. $20 million/school, not 40% off all distributions.
  24. The SEC covers every market where college football is big except for Columbus, Ohio.
  25. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34297535/big-ten-expand-additions-usc-ucla-says-commissioner-kevin-warren-adds-additional-value-conference Interesting quote telling you Warren's mindset: "...He also realizes that conference realignment can be costly for other leagues. "If a conference is allegedly on the brink, there are many more issues than members leaving," said Warren. "There are deeper issues. I'm not promoting conferences facing a crisis or going out of business, not at all. But I come out of the NFL for 21 years. In the NFL, either you succeed or you fail, and that's not only on the field. I'm talking about in business, operationally. Either you have your fan base or you don't...."" A different article quoted him (not sure if its linked above or not) as saying expansion wouldn't be considered until AFTER their new TV deal is signed in August.
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