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  1. Brett McMurphy is quoting Warren as saying they will be in 4 time zones in 2024. Colorado or the Arizona schools???
  2. The 100 billion dollars isn't significant. Its the plural on members. That means at least two partners other than the mouse joining with Fox.
  3. Interesting. The Pac 12 has been trying to reduce the number of games played in that time slot. I guess that was part of the USC/UCLA full share deal, to regularly play night games.
  4. Are there any "right" reasons other than making more money for existing members? "Right" time is when Fox/ESPN approve.
  5. Water polo? Swimming? Cal is 10th in all time NCAA championships.
  6. Seems to be a relatively new trend. I can only think of one Tech person I ever worked with in 30 years in Houston. Lots in DFW, but very few in Houston.
  7. I do remember that at my DFW HS in the 70s, more seniors went to Tech than any other 4 year school (Dallas County Community College-lovingly referred to as 13th grade-was first).
  8. As I pointed out, that list doesn't pass the smell test. They deleted too many games. For obvious reasons, they deleted the mirror games. But they also deleted games vs. Big 10, SEC and ND. That gives you less of an idea how they do in bigger games. You've got to be on drugs if you think Louisville is #3 or the North Carolina is ahead of only KU, UH and UCF.
  9. Posted before I realized more than just the top tweet was included. Was pointing out him suggesting ESPN would lowball and everyone was waiting on ND.
  10. Wilner seems to be echoing my thoughts and confirming Scheer's 24.5 million.
  11. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/tv-ratings-suggest-the-pac-12-has-an-advantage-over-the-big-12-but-will-the-conference-come-out-swinging-this-week/ar-AAZWNro Wilner's comments. He trumpets Mandel's numbers, but you wonder if he really believes it when he ends like this: "...Where do things stand? Our sense is that Pac-12 presidents and chancellors would like a compelling reason to stick together and are waiting (perhaps weeks, maybe months) to determine whether that reason exists. Based on media markets, football brands and TV ratings, it’s not obvious that the new Big 12 holds a significant enough strategic advantage over the new Pac-12 to spark a mass migration. USC and UCLA will double their revenue in the Big Ten. But would Oregon agree to send its teams to play UCF in Orlando for a few extra million dollars per year? Would Arizona trek to West Virginia for money that won’t transform its budget? More than three weeks into this storm, we don’t have enough clarity to draw conclusions. Perhaps the Pac-12 will provide some this week...."
  12. Thanks. I wondered where Navigate came from. Didn't know who they were.
  13. Well the Baylor and Okie St. fans do. Personally, the arrogance from the left coast is kind of tiresome. And I don't like garbage stats that fly in the face of everything else that came before.
  14. You are missing the point. The Pac's equivalent games are not in their numbers. So a better comparison would be to drop off the bottom couple of games for each Big 12 team. For example, the Pac may have five 1.0s. The Big 12 would have five 1.0s and 2 0.2s, so even though they were equal, the Big 12 average is lower.
  15. It isn't just TV market. Its whether people watch. The most valuable TV market for college football in the country might be Atlanta! In places like Columbus, OH, Atlanta and Austin, ratings are huge. In LA, they are pretty small. All of the west doesn't watch college football the way the southeast and parts of the midwest do.
  16. Yes. The 10:30 games are worth very little. Nobody in the eastern time zone watches them. For that matter, most people in the west are out doing something else. I bet the Big 10 doesn't do any 10;30 games. The Pac schools hate them and have been trying to do less of them.
  17. When Dennis Dodds, who hates the Big 12, talks about the Big 12 numbers being better, it has some credibility. When Wilner, a good Pac 12 source but also a homer, talks about schools perhaps leaving, it has some credibility. Mandel is a Pac 12 homer. He has some numbers that favor the Pac 12, but they seem to fly in the face of every other analysis I've ever seen.
  18. So that's 6.5/year from the R8 and 4.8/year from the Pac 12. So you do get more of the bottom rung games in the Big 12 average numbers.
  19. https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-delusion-aside-the-big-12 This is from John Conzano, an Oregon journalist and Pac 12 homer. "...The Pac-12 Conference’s top universities get better television ratings than Big 12 counterparts. The Pac-12 has bigger TV markets, superior brands, stronger broad-based athletic programs, better academics, and higher-profile members. The Pac-12 also includes the Pacific and Mountain Time Zones that media partners covet. The notion that the Big 12 is somehow stronger than the Pac-12 is delusional from any quantitative standpoint. Still, some in Big 12 country insist it’s true. Stewart Mandel of The Athletic published an interesting study that compared the television impact of the Big 12 vs. Pac-12. He looked at TV ratings from 2015-2019 and 2021 for the remaining universities in each conference. The Pac-12 won by knockout...."
  20. Which means they include games against the Pac 12 champ 4 out of 5 years but exclude games against the Big 12 champ 4 out of 5 years. Teams in contention draw better regardless of the name on the jersey. Baylor-Oklahoma St. ccg not only swamped Oregon-Utah ccg, but beat Oregon-Utah and Pitt-WF ACC ccg game combined.
  21. I think Cal and Stanford are the least likely to join the Big 12. They will only do it when there is no other choice.
  22. The presidents were driving the moves. Big 10 and Pac 10 weren't interested and President Cunningham had no interest in the SEC. SEC was still recruiting illiterates at that point in time and Cunningham didn't want to compete with that.
  23. https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/lists/for-a-few-seconds-on-tuesday-it-seemed-the-big-12-had-added-the-arizona-schools/ This is funny. It WAS a Tuesday. "...Those of us who follow college sports in general, and the Pac-12 in particular, are therefore on the lookout for any signs that the Pac-12 is going to be raided to the brink of extinction. For a few seconds on Tuesday, I thought that moment had happened. Texas Tech fans, in large numbers and with rapid-fire regularity, were tweeting cactus emojis. Surely this meant that Arizona and Arizona State were either headed for the Big 12 or were close to coming to the Big 12. Right? Wrong...." Somehow the cactus was making fun of TCU. Nothing about Arizona.
  24. That's what I was thinking too, but he claims to be an 08 Baylor grad.
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