Posts posted by closetojumping
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7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:
Yes.
(according to a 3/11/25 article he said he likes to visit NFL teams to see what they are doing in the offseason.)
but yeah all bad. Thanks for sharing what you do and in the way you chose to word it.
Thanks. I meant “30”, not 39, btw. Fixed it in my post after seeing it quoted.
6 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:So sark was on a bender for a month and came back like everything was okay?
Keep trying, buddy. You’ll get there eventually.
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typo. 30, not 39.23 minutes ago, deech said:If this is true, CDC and anyone at this University should be owed a huge thank you by Sark for not leaking or discussing that. I get why it's also not great for Texas, but I would think that Sark would owe them all a debt of gratitude for not making a bigger story/issue about that.
And by that I mean not be reaching out to the pros this week.
There were multiple missed appearances and Sarkisian couldn’t be reached by the media for more than 30 days after the season ended.
20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:Factually, the game was January 10. Sark did not appear at Junior Day January 25. Bobby B reported flu. https://ontexasfootball.com/forums/topic/5734-note-on-junior-day/
Bobby was doing what he could to be factual - Sarkisian wasn’t around - and to pass on the only thing anyone would say for the record.
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9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
I was being facetious due to a similar comment I made the other day when the little guy decided to get upset. You know how he is
This sounds totally accurate. You should quote it and then let people point and laugh. It’s either that or you’re just being your little jellyfish self and purposely constructing something in your favor out of context. That’s kind of your thing here.
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18 minutes ago, C-Man said:That’s Gold(en), C-Man! Gold(en)!!
12 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:OTF’s own Bobby Burton was told by an internal source that, “There is ZERO truth” to the Sark NFL rumors that came out this morning.
1) They’re not willing to extend again and Sexton’s been told as much, allegedly.
2) Sexton put out feelers but did not leak this. We’ll eventually know the truth, but some folks connected in all kinds of ways are saying it came from an NFL owner, and allegedly the one in Dallas.
3) Sarkisian is a ticking time bomb. This was all coming to a head sooner or later. He missed 30 days of work after the playoff loss, including the first Junior Day, which was fucking stunning and no commented from the AD/football side. It is probably time to go. A loss today and some people pretty pissed off about how this has all been handled by Sarkisian’s end are going to pull out the long knives with friendly press.
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1 hour ago, Newy25 said:
Lebby or Dillingham would crush it at Texas.Just no on Lebby. Holy shit, dude.
55 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:So in the other thread I predicted Sark was gone in 2027 for just not being good enough to get from good teams to great teams.
However, this is not the best news. The best news would have been Sark realizing he needed to change his offense, and doing it. Then helping Manning to a Heisman in 2026 and Texas to a title.
This news, if true, means he’s sick of the college bullshit and the Texas interfering boosters. Arch will likely transfer, and yet again Texas will have to rebuild trust with coaches, recruits, and players.
It sucks because the talent on the team, besides OL was good enough to win it all.
There’s not a booster issue, dude. That’s just a terrible trope that needs to die. JFC.
46 minutes ago, TexArcher said:Would Freeman do it, though?
He’s alleged listened regarding other openings.
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2 hours ago, Bama Llama said:
I’m curious. What are all of you pontificating, classist, Trumpkin sounding brahmins going to say and do when the Mississippi State Cow College located in the prolapsed anus of the hopelessly backward, uneducated and boring SEC actually does what so many of you have been predicting all week and hangs another L on the Texas Longhorns? I love Surly as a messsge board but Kee-rist, the clench-mouthed arrogance is worse than Thurston and Lovey.
I only wish Mike Leach was still coaching there. I have attended Rice, MSU, Alabama and NYU. I don’t much like cowbells but I don’t condemn anyone for where they live or the school they attend (except Auburn, but fuck them).
Congrats on all of our your worldly virtue.
That said, don’t bring politics into this thread, you fucking dunce. No one else did it. No one wants to hear it. Tell some old story about your dad and Bear Bryant or something but get fucked on that other shit.
Also, we all know Texas could well shit the bed tomorrow. It doesn’t change anything. Our school is superior to yours, MSU, and myriad others in this conference loaded with mouthbreathing clowns. We know it and you know it. Good for you that your institution is solely defined by the performance of your football program, but we get to have a worldview far beyond that premise, and our university helps enable that.
1 hour ago, nnm said:I can’t believe no one has made the argument that MissSU is self-aware TAMU. Craphole towns, mediocre academics, little brothers, history of athletic futility (except MissSU has a much better baseball program historically).
The biggest difference is that MissSU doesn’t act like they’re a blue blood. They kind of accept their place in the pecking order.
I avoided bringing up ATM in this thread because many posters here are moths to that flame and then the thread just devolves into more boring ATM discussion.
Beyond that, ATM’s academics far exceed those of Mississippi State. It’s a disingenuous comparison on that front.
1 hour ago, honolulu horn said:Spent some decent time there, and Minneapolis is actually far more fun and interesting than I ever would have thought. The campus is in a very pretty location up on a hill across the river from downtown, the city's music scene is fantastic, and they were badass enough to make the new Gophers stadium an outdoor venue.
I can see Minneapolis being fun for a weekend with the right company. I’d take that road trip if Texas did a home and home.
1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:One of my best friends went there. His dad was head of a department so he got free tuition
They tried to recruit me in HS because some of my teammates were visiting there. I looked them up and their academics fit below my high school’s. That school was academically functioning at a Texas junior high level.
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1 hour ago, SurlyBDR said:1 hour ago, RGBIII said:
Good lord. This tracks, I guess.
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3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
I’d like to hear more about these tire factories. I’m intrigued.
Come down for a visit to the ship channel on 225 here in Houston. I'll take you site-seeing to my old stomping grounds in Pasadena, as well as the lot where the shanty I grew up in was condemned, then we can mosey on over to the Goodyear rubber factory and you can take in all of the sites and sounds your senses can handle. By the time we're finished, you'll feel like you've been to Starkville and back.
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7 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:
Did a wireless project for the Mississippi Highway Patrol around 13 years ago, I spent way too much time in that fucking state but Starkville is definitely one of the "cooler" places. Also, lol at academic smack talk when discussing athletics, that shit does not matter anymore
The validity of your first point is called into question by the inanity of your second point. Academic talk is front and center in the original shit talking post because we are examining the entirety of the product, in this case, a shithole institution in a shithole state.
5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:Are they soon to join the SEC?
West Texas State University would like a word with you.
I mean they do have the actually cool Palo Duro Canyon close by and the riveting city of Amarillo... so maybe a bad comparison.
I was deliberate in discussing "major" or P4 schools as the comparison. There's probably 1000 small or largely unknown schools that we can discuss otherwise.
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44 minutes ago, RGBIII said:
Certainly but would you be excited for a home and home with any of them? Maybe a road visit once but imagine looking at the non-con schedule and its fucking Syracuse
Part of my point* is that Mississippi State brings nothing to the table. They are in a shit location, with shit academics, with shit athletic history, with a shit brand. All of those schools you named bring at least something to the table, and many of them bring a lot to the table.
"Illinois, Syracuse, Minnesota, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Northwestern, Michigan st"
NW is a great academic school. The rest are mostly decent to good, with Syracuse ranking the lowest at 75, a full 133 spots ahead of Mississippi State. NW is in Chicago. It's an awesome away game to visit if you like a cool big city, murder rate notwithstanding. MSU, Minny, Syracuse, they all have solid to excellent football histories. Minny is in a big city too, albeit not a visit I would call "cool", but I've only visited the twin cities for business.
I could get excited about a few of those trips, but I can extol the virtues of some or all parts of those schools and programs with a straight face compared to MSU.
*Another part of my point was that running over an also-ran like Mississippi State also gave me the chance to take potshots at multiple other shitheel schools that I don't like or respect in the original post.
13 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:Ye of little or no adventurous spirit….
Spent last night enjoying North Shore Pontchartrain now halfway to Starkville.
Sunday night dinner at Galatoire’s and spend night at The Ritz to re-acclimate.
Reports will be filed
Hey, look, I like to take CFB road trips. I was supposed to go to UK and Georgia this year but life stuff intervened. Been on 30+ visits away from Austin either way. That said, I don't have Starkville in my future plans unless I have a kid that becomes a starting QB there or something crazy.
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59 minutes ago, RGBIII said:
Zero chance on planet earth that he only got a single enchilada...sure would be a shame if someone slipped some queso into that salsa right @Wulaw Horn
Also, that looks like a burrito. I know Ketchum could eat his way through a city block of tex-mex, so surely it's just the picture and he's not actually that ignorant, right?
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13 hours ago, MrBig said:
The guy was caught on camera eating his fucking boogers, why are we surprised about this? I will die on this booger hill as long as I know Sark will come along and eat it.
I can't believe this is a question I am asking in this life, but when was Seven Win Steve caught on camera, eating boogers?
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I don't see any "tell me about MSU" type of threads, but I have some unpleasant thoughts to put out into the ether. I've also spoilered some content that gets more voluminous on the banality of Mississippi State as an institution for tl;dr imbeciles.
Mississippi State is perhaps the most boring brand in the entirety of major college athletics.
Someone lamented on the game week thread that "no one is excited for this game". I doubt I'm the only person who read that and thought, "who in the fuck gets excited to play Mississippi State?" Even if they were good, who would be excited to play MSU? "Dude, we've got Mississippi State this week!" Right.
Does Ole Miss get excited to play them? Alabama? I guess, having watched 20+ Egg Bowls, I can agree that Ole Miss actually gives a shit but that's about it.
This is a brand and school that is as plain as grits and as competitive as a hippie commune. Starkville is as appealing as a destination as visiting a tire-making factory. I've tried thinking about who else rivals the Mississippi State melancholy as an opponent for anyone out there. Who can do it?
-Baylor? They are in Waco. But they've managed to institutionalize rape and murder cover-up. They have better colors, also. They're not completely boring.
-Indiana? Bloomington is supposed to be a great place to visit and they used to be a blue blood in men's basketball. Way better academically as well.
-Iowa State? A case can be made here. They're marginally better academically. Their colors and uniforms are better and they've had some hot meme girls. I don't know anything about Ames. I don't know, maybe ISU is an analog.
-Wake Forest? They've been good before in other sports and Winston-Salem is a great town with some history. Way better academically as well.
-The best candidate is probably Texas Tech. The only thing saving Lubbock from being as shitty as Starkville is the fact that Lubbock is at least inside the state of Texas. Tech's academic ranking is just 10 rungs up above MSU's, coming in at 198 in the US News & World Report rankings. Also, Tech is about as futile as MSU when it comes to athletic performance. Maybe Tech really is an analog, and Texas just traded one shitty conference affiliate for another.
P4-wise, I am not sure who else could objectively be considered on par with being as moribund as Mississippi State, but I'm interested in other suggestions. This is a really boring, uninspiring pack of mouthbreathing gypsies with whom Texas has moored itself. It's grim.
Mississippi State's academics are on par with a third world country's.
SpoilerThe MSU US News & World Report ranking is 208th, nationally. That's currently 98 spots behind the University of Oklahoma, who is our standard bearer for academic futility. Originally Mississippi A&M when founded, the mission for the school hasn't apparently changed as much as the name. In short, this dumpster fire exists in order to educate, to some meager degree, farmers and their offspring.
The acceptance rate hovers around 80% and that's with most applicants being from Mississippi high schools. My daughter taught in the Teach For America program in Mississippi for 2 years and then a 3rd mentor year within their public school program. When she applied, they asked her where she'd like to teach, anywhere in the country. She opted for "place of highest need", no doubt thinking she'd wind up in East Los Angeles, becoming the female version of Jaime Escalante.
Nope. Welcome to the Mississippi delta, young lady! She was once stabbed in class; witnessed one student's dad murder another student's dad in front of the school pick-up line; broke up fights in the classroom daily; and taught 2-3 13 year olds each year, in the 3rd grade. You can't move on to 4th grade without being able to pass state standard reading and math tests. Mississippi State is taking roughly 80% of these erudite scholars.
I'm sure Texas is benefitting in numerous ways from the research side of things in their deep collaborations with Mississippi State now that the two are affiliated.
I've been a part of employing and working with 1000s of college grads over the years, and I can recall working with only one MSU grad. We hired him as an analyst out of their business school at a growing start-up. I will never figure out what we were thinking when we did it, because the guy basically showed up underwater and was gasping for air before the end of week 1.
Shit got worse from there. By the end of month 2, he'd been removed from all projects, was in a PIP, and an uncomfortable exit was coming. Problem was, we liked the guy and he meant well. Those are bosskillers, of course, but we figured out a role that made sense and it saved his career. We needed a receptionist. Dude took to it like a duck to water. Last I heard, he'd made his way to executive assistant several decades later.
I've made the argument that LSU is a shithole institution that is doing more harm than good to this country by handing out degrees and sending clowns into the workforce. I'd make the same argument for Mississippi State, but I'm thinking that maybe whatever farming their doing in that state could be benefitting from the reality that a lot of MSU grads can probably read and write better than when they landed in Starkville in the first place.
As pathetic as Mississippi State's academics are, their historical athletic performance might be worse than the academics.
SpoilerMSU has an overall losing record, for their history, in football. It staggers me a bit when I think about how hard that is to pull off. These guys schedule 4 non-conference teams every year, always with 3 cupcakes. They're a founding member of the SEC. They've gotten to play Kentucky and Vanderbilt regularly, with Arkansas and South Carolina as well in recent decades. Ole Miss has mostly been equally shitty. How the hell do you wind up with a losing record for life with those cushions?
Mississippi State has won one SEC conference title in football, in 1941. They've had 3 consensus All-Americans. I looked up "backwater program in college football" and the first result from Google was "Mississippi State is often considered the best example of backwater college football programs". They think ringing cowbells is a competitive advantage and a unique and endearing facet for their football brand.
Across the span of the MSU athletic department, they've won one national title in college baseball, and nothing else in any sport. That's it. One. Within several years of that outcome, they fired the dude that brought that home for them. They're historically a top 15 baseball program and that is the apex of all of their sports. They're usually little more than a speed bump in every other sport besides occasionally being good in men's basketball and women's basketball (much of the WBB success is a direct result of Vic Shaeffer).
I guess there's some legitimacy to the notion that cupcakes are necessary in every sport, so we need the MSU's of the world in athletics.
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16 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:
Listen, I realize the Kentucky game was an absolute beating to watch. And for a lot of us, this year has not gone quite as we imagined it. And yet. And ... yet. Do you realize that there are just six weeks of regular season college football left? And that the offseason and its 200-plus days without football lies just over the horizon?
So yes, it's fine to not be excited about the game tomorrow. It's OK to have some existential dread about the offense. But you should not, for one moment, forget that this is the best time of year. Football games every day of the week. Cooler weather arriving. These are the times, my friends.
Excited? No. I doubt I could be excited to be playing a shitty Mississippi State team in any universe. I don't think I could be excited to be playing a great Mississippi State team in any universe, either, if I'm being totally honest. I find that school and program to be abysmally boring. They're the SEC version of Iowa State or Indiana or Wake Forest. Indiana is great this year and who is excited to play them? Mississippi State probably would be, I bet.
I am, however, anxiously looking forward to the game, for the reasoning you mentioned. There is nothing better than CFB season. I watched Teh Major get win #2 for the year last night against a Georgia State team that is now 1-7. A clash of 1-6 teams, and it was a great game to watch, especially while drinking homemade rye Manhattans.
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2 hours ago, Helobious said:
ChatGPT? Also lol at just 2 beta males heeding ctj’s call to arms for a mass negging of me. I am the people’s champion.
I know you huffed too much spray paint as a child to likely fathom this, but what the hell - I didn't call for your negging. I'm not a moderator and I don't mind if someone, even you, liked some idea of mine and made something out of it. I didn't even neg you, doofus. You could have attributed the source, at least, but my expectations of what you're capable of are so low that I can't even be annoyed about that. I'm just kind of amazed you figured out how to start your own thread.
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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:
Oh let me use a bunch of words and anecdotes to get the point across and throw in a strong hedge on all previous points. You do the exact same shit so who gives a fuck. Remember how big of a bitch you were about Baker when hired and then you hedged? Yeah we all remember. Same for sark when he was hired and your latest prognosis with a strong hedge. The only reason you hedge late is because it gives you an out for when you’re wrong. Sack up. You fucking know we’re never winning shit with Sark so cut the bullshit.
Hahahaha. @Lerka Lerka here is an example of someone putting in way too much effort. This dude's original post was one sentence long. He apparently went back and looked through posts of mine in order to find subjects he could attempt to poke holes. He edited his post 30+ minutes later.
And BO&W, the "we all remember" notion is comical coming from you, given that your use of the royal "we" on this board implies that you're working within some sort of peer set. I thought one of the central tenets of being an incel was always approaching circumstances as an outsider and living without alliances?
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3 minutes ago, Lerka Lerka said:
Fatalistic certitude & nattering nabobs. Ok
You guys are trying way too hard.
What I wrote took virtually no effort. I'm usually posting to avoid actual effort in some form.
"nattering nabobs of negativity" is a famous line from Spiro Agnew from when, I believe, he was being pressured to resign from the vice presidency during the Nixon regime. Again, I'm guessing that took no real effort.
If you want effort, we should have a real alliteration or metaphor contest as it relates to this season and our varying levels of despondence.
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50 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:
Ryan Day was on the verge of getting fired last year after the Michigan loss. He stepped in, they had a great playoff run, and look like they have things figured out now. But that one example can't do all the heavy lifting. There are different variables and it's impossible to replicate.
OC duties were snatched from Jimbo and he was fired not long after.
If Sark wants to give up play calling, great. If it's forced on him at all, we're probably doomed.
There are plenty of examples of guys who were valued for their work as OCs or DCs who eventually gave up the playcalling role as an HC. Saban, Drinkwitz and Mack Brown are easy examples to recall either due to proximity or recency. There are many examples of guys who refused to drop being a playcaller and it cost them their jobs. Will Muschamp and Billy Napier are easy examples for this board.
Now, name the guys who called plays and won national titles, real quick. Spurrier is one. Who else? Sir Edward Beauregard Orgeron, Esq., certainly didn't. Meyer? Nope. Smart? Nope. Swinney? Nope. Carroll? Stoops? Nope. I guess Jimbo Fisher, somewhat hilariously, is another.
Point is, you can find one about every dozen years or so who did it. The rest of the guys dating back to the early 90's were all very involved with their sides of the ball, but they recognized what needed to happen in order for them to truly win. There is a boneyard full of HC tenures in which the guy couldn't let go of his shiny object and cost himself, his program, his players, and the program's fans a shot at greatness. It's just selfishness. We've already pointed out that the results for Sarkisian are visibly short of elite and the trend is decidedly negative, and the sample size is not small. His case for continuing down this path is paper thin.
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13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:It’s already the beginning of the end
We've all noted your fatalistic certitude, as you've been spraying this board and the recruiting forum with it, one shitty post after another. Do the rest of us a favor and work on some new material or shut the fuck up. You're trending towards being a spammer with your whiny bemoaning and it's adding zero value to each thread.
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5 hours ago, LCHorn said:
I don’t think he would be done that fast, but he’s going to be dealing with more intense NIL donor fatigue this offseason and CDC is going to be unable to shield him from making semi-public* his plan for fixing it.
*in other words, it’ll leak out a little here but it’ll mostly be shared with the luxury box types.
I know everyone is repeating that Sark the OC has to go-which is weird, that’s his strength. Sark the GM is what needs to go.
Sarkisian as a CEO has been close to elite. That cannot be said for his performance, ever, as an OC while also the HC. Sorry. You cannot find data and cite it to support a counter to the notion that the OC role is not a strength for Sarkisian while also head coaching.
As to the rest, a lot of you guys are chiming in about how this will be handled before the season outcome is even known. If Texas somehow goes 9-3, no one here has a fucking clue what will or won’t be done in public or private. 5-7 to 7-5, sure. Above that, we have no idea.
41 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:This is laughable. Name the amount and I’ll bet you he’s not fired or forced to resign before the ‘28 season.
I want Sarkisian to work out and win titles at Texas and I think he can, which isn’t how I saw the hire on 1/2/21. That said, I feel like him failing ahead of 2028 is a reasonable hedge to my outlook, based on what I’ve seen this year. If you’re taking bets from anyone, I’ll take the counter to your position for $500.


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Boosters in college sports function akin to the ownership group in the pro sports. You’re trying to make the case that there is nothing like a booster issue in the NFL and that is silly.