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  1. 27 minutes ago, Nivek said:

    I think I left it alone based on his looks, but really the guy is a glorified blogger, not a scout/coach for some NFL/CFL team.   He did post some numbers, but without any context as to how he arrived at any of it.  And without that context, then then it is just junk.  

    To the picture you posted above with the text, there is no link to the source and no context again.   

    And once again, the topic where I got in on it, was that Ewers was a very good college QB for Texas.  That he might not measure up to NFL standards is irrelevant to his performance at Texas.  To claim that he was inaccurate and imprecise when he was completing approximately 65% over his 3-year career at Texas.   This is like listening to people tell me Greg Davis was a horrible coordinator when his teams averaged 40 ppg for 10-years, as if it was just luck.   

     

     

     

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    For reference is is Klubniks

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    Leavitts

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  2. 25 minutes ago, MrBig said:

     

    In the video of Quinn’s agent doing a radio show posted a few pages back, Quinn’s own agent said he was “throwing the football 88 yards in the 8th grade.” It’s not some stupid shit Derka made up, it came from Ron Slavin’s stupid mouth.

    Quinn has a shitty agent saying bullshit like “88 yards in the 8th grade” and saying that “half of the NFL QBs went to their coaches/GMs and said not to draft Quinn because he’s such a big name and it’s too much pressure having him as a backup and thats why he fell to the 7th round.” These dumbass quotes are right from Quinn’s agent’s mouth. He needs better representation. 

    God Quinn has a retarded agent. But like Immamac says, maybe he’s a reflection of his client and his clients father. 

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  3. 11 minutes ago, alexis texas said:

    Is there any benefit to being a Texas Ex’s member? The Longhorn foundation makes it clear what the benefits are at each donation level, but the perks of a Texas Ex’s life membership are unclear.  Bumper sticker street cred? 

    The best benefit I saw was when we lost to ACU in basketball and the person running the SA event at Little Woodrows gave me like 40 tickets for free beer that were leftover.

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  4. 1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

    I sure hope so. What's interesting is that both the Sanders family AND the Cleveland Browns are referenced. Both would have a vested interest in suppressing it. If it exists, you can bet it will somehow get leaked, haha.

    Come on TMZ, do your thang!

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  5. 8 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

    No idea if this is true or not, but for the sake of the human experience, I pray that the interview footage is released so we can evaluate it. 

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    I would imagine it's true. They've recorded this type of stuff for years now and you generally see it posted when a player retires, about to retire, or gets inducted to Hall of Fame/Honors so that they can show you their "greatness" early.

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  6. My personal belief of why QB is the hardest position to evaluate is because you can't really evaluate the mental side of the position or the drive of a player until the lights come on and it's go time. There are some things you can look for to try and help you find those but IMO you don't truly know until shit hits the fan or they step foot into your facility. 

  7. 2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

    It's also growing like crazy, doesn't have strong in-state programs, and is culturally very close to Austin. It makes sense on a lot of levels.

    Lathan Ransom from last year's Ohio State team is another good one that comes to mind that we recruited.

    Arizona players drafted:

    2025 - 5
    2024 - 8
    2023 - 2
    2022 - 3
    2021 - 1
    2020 - 3

     

    Does IMG count towards Florida's numbers? Seems fucky if they do. 

  8. 57 minutes ago, Helobious said:

    If Schloss is a real leader he’d have Williams come out and issue an apology for this weekend. Taunting the other team over a walk down 7 runs is ridiculous and we’re getting absolutely slammed and dragged all over social media and regular media for it. That’s a terrible look for the program

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rising-texas-baseball-star-jonah-williams-behavior-during-at-bat-draws-florida-fans-ire.amp

    Shut up pussy

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  9. 3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

    Advanced stats are probably more useful for QB than any other position.  It’ll never tell the full story but it certainly can paint a different story than perception.  
     

    I wouldn’t say completion percentage is completely useless on a standalone basis, but it has less value than it once did.  And grading while subjective, paired with other metrics, tells a good story when broken down by depth of target.  It’s pretty basic but if you throw at or near the LOS, that completion number will be higher than if you push it down the field.

    Which is why Josh Allen's college completion percentage numbers are not worth the time. According the advanced stats he was asked to make harder and more difficult throws than anyone else in his draft class. Baker Mayfield is kind of the golden boy of this debate as he was on target and accurate all over the field. 

  10. 14 hours ago, Nivek said:

    I normally don't like doing this, but this is who you cited.  Forgive me if the esteemed Cory Kinnan doesn't inspire me with confidence in his opinion on QB play.   

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    You stood by the stance, but you are just wrong.  3 Individuals have been presented (1 college, 2 pros) to refute this claim.   Now, you can stand by this stance and claim that completion percentage isn't a perfect metric, and you will get no argument from me about that, but when I press you for a better one out there what do you have?   For now, it seems like the best proxy out there.  And while we are being exacting, let's parse accuracy from precision and see if we can that delineated better?   As far as statistics being gamed, I suppose that is true, but I tend to think that coaches will call plays with higher percentages of success than ones with lower percentages more-often, not just QE's coach.  Do you have evidence this was happening?  

    Since we are being precise with our terminology now, let's first define what pocket awareness is before bothering to discuss it.  Morons like me, think definitions matter.  

    At this point it doesn't matter what I say, I provided you with numbers form an analytics guy and you shoot down the guy based on how he looks. Most analytics guys aren't chiseled jawline Brad Pitt looking guys. But lets be honest if you honestly think Quinn is an accurate passer beyond 10 yards then I'll just bow out of this and laugh at you for even having that thought. Every NFL scout and scouting report produced dinged Ewers for being inaccurate beyond 10 yards. They also dinged him for leaving his progressions too early and checking down thus further gaming his completion percentage. 

     

    Here is some advanced stats from Lamar at Louisville with regards to accuracy. 

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  11. 17 minutes ago, Nope said:

     

    So one guy regressing in this area means it can’t be taught to any QB who starts off bad at it?

    Hudson Card, Garrett Gilbert, are a few others with same shit pocket awareness as Quinn who have been coached by highly respected QB trainers as well. 
     

    Manziel represents the opposite of this spectrum as someone that possessed elite pocket awareness with not great coaching and self admitted never studied film. 
     

    You can practice escape drills until the cows come home but if the QB has no feel for when the defender is coming, where he’s coming from, or where to escape to then those escape drills are useless.  At best you bail too early on a clean pocket, at worse you bail too late and get blasted. 

  12. 27 minutes ago, Nope said:

    You’re saying pocket presence is intrinsic and can’t be learned/taught, an exceptional claim to make and not support 

    Quinn is quintessential proof for all the training, trainers, and coaching he’s had(hint it’s been the best his whole life). I think you’re conflating rhythm and timing or a passer to pocket awareness.
     

    So tell me how can someone who has had the best coaching his entire life absolutely be dog shit at it if it is something that can be coached?

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