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  1. 3 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

    So another Bookie?

    Yeah, it may another Bookie (I'm hoping there are better options this year), but this is a good move by OU at this point.

    OU hasn't shown enough to get elite defenders to come so they are going to have to take risks on distressed assets. McCutchin is the type of player they should go after. He could recover fully and be an elite DB, worthy of being in Bama's secondary. OU's got a full season to see what his recovery looks like, and if he struggles, part ways. Plus, if they really like the safety from LBJ, it could be a package deal.

    OU's DB recruiting for 2021 may be bolstered by having two well-regarded in-state prospects and Tre Norwood's younger brother in the class. They staff has some advantages this year that are uncommon. 

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    closetojumping said:
    "Severely underestimate Hurts in your assessment. I understand his throwing limitations. I still think you underrate what he brings to the table for a program." 
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    In short, I’m not with you for OU in 2020. I think they’re a 3-4 loss regular season team. 

     

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    Burt Macklin said:
    They also bring back their entire starting 5 at OL, and Bedenbaugh might be the best OL coach in the country, so I think their OL will take a big jump forward. 
     
    They bring back some solid players on D...They won’t be great on D and they’ll have some depth issues, but they’ll still be solid. 
     
    Part of the 1 or 2 losses prediction is that their schedule is really easy. 

    Macklin's right here. One thing that should be remembered is that OU had a lot of close game luck last year (Sooners went 5-1 in one score games). So saying OU is better doesn't mean that they won't lose more games in the regular season. That said, expectations are high. Riley's supposedly been telling people next year will be his best team so far.

    The offense should be better because the OL will be better (4 first year starters last year and that was the worst OL at OU since early season 2015). The OL being better will make life easier for OU's new QB. Plus, when the GT pull game is going, this offense is tough. 

    Rattler may be a headcase, but OU's succeeded with two QBs, Mayfield and Murray, who were not model teammates. Apparently the WR and RB hated Hurts by the end of the year because he was a scramble-first QB who couldn't throw a deep ball, and he stole carries from the RBs. 

    True, OU's defense loses its best player at each level from last year. However, to definitely say they'll be worse next year means that none of the current players or recruits won't make advances. OU's defense grew as the season progressed. I actually think the improvement the Sooner defense made early on in the year was overrated. I was more impressed with the play down the stretch (except LSU, but who remembers that game?). 

    In sum, I think OU's defense will be at least as good as last year's and the offense will be better because of the improved OL play. OU has lost 1 or 2 games in the regular season each of the past five years so saying two losses is pretty safe with this schedule. 

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    Golfclap said:

    You can't have this kind of attrition from the past 2 classes with no negative impact - even if the guys that are leaving aren't contributors. 

    I agree, and the 2020 and 2021 will feel it. By my count, OU's going to have only 38 defensive player total next year, including guys who haven't been contributors the whole time they've been on campus.

    Now, the question is, what's the cost of running all those guys off? Thinking of this from a non-football, general organizational perspective, keeping negative performers is a bad idea for two big reasons: 

    1. It sends the message that substandard performance is acceptable.

    2. It uses resources that could be allocated elsewhere.

    In line with #1, there is the hypothesis that the culture on defense was so bad, you need to process a bunch of the negative players out just to eliminate that bad vibe. Going along with #2, cleaning house gives more attention and practice reps to those who remain. It also gives you space to recruit more players and take in guys from the portal that may benefit the team.  

    Your example of Marcus Stripling is a good one, but he also gets to the complexity of the situation. He certainly would've benefited from a year focused on physical development. From the wisdom found on messageboards, Stripling's lack of motivation was what was holding him back. Throwing him out there may have been necessary to keep him engaged.

    As I'm seeing it, OU's only going to lose 5 - 6 defenders to graduation at the end of 2020. A couple of more will probably leave. That means OU *should* take a big defensive class in 2021, up to 13 - 14. In 2021, the roster should be restocked, though young.

  4. 22 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Various OU sites reporting that starting SS Chase Sylvie is considering entering the portal as a grad transfer. It appears in a last ditch effort to keep him the Sooners will let him move to CB. FS Justin Broiles is also moving to CB, while NB Jeremiah Criddell is moving to FS. I assume that means that one of the FR will be on the 2-deep at NB (Eaton, Dennis, Washington, Harrington).

     

    Grinch "we need to run all these scrubass motherfuckers off" 

    Also Grinch "where the fuck is everyone?" 

     

    I didn't realize that the Sooners had moved Woodi Washington to SS. I'm really surprised that Jamal Morris didn't get any playing time and is behind Washington. Morris was an EE and physically seemed ready to play. He also seems to be the kind of player that they are lacking right now in terms of size and physicality.   

      

    21 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Various OU sites reporting that starting SS Chase Sylvie is considering entering the portal as a grad transfer. It appears in a last ditch effort to keep him the Sooners will let him move to CB. FS Justin Broiles is also moving to CB, while NB Jeremiah Criddell is moving to FS. I assume that means that one of the FR will be on the 2-deep at NB (Eaton, Dennis, Washington, Harrington).

     

    Grinch "we need to run all these scrubass motherfuckers off" 

    Also Grinch "where the fuck is everyone?" 

     

    I didn't realize that the Sooners had moved Woodi Washington to SS. I'm really surprised that Jamal Morris didn't get any playing time and is behind Washington. Morris was an EE and physically seemed ready to play. He also seems to be the kind of player that they are lacking right now in terms of size and physicality.   

    I think a lot of this intel is flawed. 

    Chase Sylvie never started at OU that I recall. I don't think he even played last year. Justin Broiles proved in the playoff that he can't cover 1on1 at all. Moving him to CB might as well be moving him to Alaska. Like many of the OU defenders already in the portal, if these guys leave, I don't know how much of a loss it is.

    The Sooners will have Tre Brown at one corner. Jaden Davis, Tre Norwood, and the freshmen will be in the mix.

    For the safety spots, OU has a higher floor. Turner-Yell played better in the latter half the year. I don't know if he has the athleticism to hang with elite pass catchers, but he's a good tackler and not the worst cover safety OU's rolled out. Patrick Turner set a floor for the other safety spot. He is in position and assignment sound. He definitely isn't a plus athlete, but he won't get OU beat against most teams either.

    The nickel is a trash fire. Bookie Radley-Hiles did a few things well like attacking bubble screens and playing reasonable zone coverage. His lack of discipline, size, and speed mean he can't perform some basic functions such as getting off blocks at all or covering bigger or faster receivers 1on1. 

    OU has several intriguing athletes for these three spots (safety and nickel) in the pipeline. They defensive coaches stated that they want to rotate players at all positions, and hopefully some of the guys listed below will contribute in 2020. 

    Unlike Broiles, against LSU, Woodi Washington was in position and tackled effectively. The Tigers just made plays, and he did get beat then. From what I saw, he needs more run at NB, S, or somewhere. Criddell and Morris look the part and really need opportunities. Morris is apparently a bright guy too, so I don't know what's holding him back.

    Some of the incoming players may hold promise for next too. Justin Harrington looks like a plus athlete, but he's a JUCO...who was supposed to be at OU this semester...and is delayed until the Summer (eye roll). As EEs, Bryson Washington and DJ Graham are apparently impressive, but what will that mean in the Fall?

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  5. 28 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

    Why do players continue to commit to Texas?  Because it's Texas you dipshits.

    Agreed, but OU has to continue to recruit Texas because it's next door and it produces a disproportionate number of top college football players.

    It's obvious that UT's going to win most of the battles vs OU for Texas kids, but this is less true for offensive players because of the style and success of the Sooners offense.

    LSU is an example of an out-of-state team that recruits top defensive players from Texas. They've averaged one top 100 defensive player per year from Texas over the last six years. The Tigers have obviously had sustained success on that side the ball, and OU will need to starts showing that type success on defense to win recruiting contests for defensive players.

    Collins was only coming to OU if UT had retained the prior defensive staff, and even then it would've been a tough pull vs Bama or others. 

  6. 3 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Looks like OU added another grad xfer WR. I guess this is to cover Howard's injury :: 

    Obi Obialo from Marshall

    https://247sports.com/Player/Obi-Obialo-79525/

    Getting Obialo probably takes OU out of the Tarik Black race as they're similar in size. Obialo appears more productive (I've never watched Marshall play). This is likely a Lee Morris/Grant Calcaterra replacement. Hopefully, he brings similar reliability, blocking, and fearlessness.

    Theo Howard is a take for almost every college based on his experience, productivity, and skills. I don't think there are many replacements for him available. 

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    After noticing how offensively top heavy OU's class is, I went back through the last three classes to see how top heavy their roster is overall on offense.

    This has been well described on the Sooner boards.

    OU's offense recruits are roughly 4 starts and their defensive recruits are 3 stars. The higher ranked defenders from the 2017 and 2018 classes seem to have a high flame out rate also, as you observed. A lot of this may be related to poor character evaluation. A relevant aside here, the Sooners highest touted DL recruit, Perrion Winfrey, apparently was out some number of games due to off the field stuff this year. This can't be a good harbinger for success in Norman. 

    The exodus on the defensive side this winter, I imagine, is Grinch processing a lot of guys that he doesn't think will contribute. Grinch may also feel that getting these guys out of the program eliminates some of negativity associated with the horrid performances of the 2017 and 2018 defenses. OU's defense in 2020 and 2021 will be very thin and inexperienced in certain spots (NT, DT, CB). 

  8. OU WR group is sneaky weak in terms of numbers and experience. They have only 9 - 10 WR next year because of graduation, injuries, portaling. Only Rambo has a lot of reps. Haselwood and Wease will be counted on a lot, and the rest of the experience is on the HB/TE spectrum. 2020 WR was surprisingly weak, unless the Sooners have some under the radar info on their three recruits. 

    Norman should be an attractive landing spot for portal WR. I expected them to go after T Black from Michigan from the jump because he brings them basically what they lost in Calcaterra. 

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