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  1. 58 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    I’ve been surprised that OU hasn’t offered Ike Iwunnah (he’s teammates with Camar Wheaton and Oyetade). I hope everyone keeps ignoring him and he ends up at Texas. HUGE upside with an incredible frame, imo. 

    https://247sports.com/Player/Ikechukwu-Iwunnah-46078805/

    I don’t know where OU would go if they missed both, but would assume Iwunnah would be very high on the next round of targets. Coe has become an important piece to the class, honestly. 

    Yeah, good call on tracking Utah also.

    I think there will be a lot of variance in this class because of lack of spring football, camps, and of course actual fall high school football. These are the places you get to see if Iwunnah is good enough that you-wunnah offer. (sorry)

    He looks like a tremendous athlete.

     

  2. 9 hours ago, golfclap said:

    It's the 4th year in a row, I think... 

    Daniels. Slusher. Hill. Proctor. 

    All true. The situation was different with Slusher. OU apparently never offered (OU's 2020 DB class was really good early on, had decommittments, but still turned out OK especially at S).

    Daniels appears to be simply suffering from confirmation bias that A&M is supporting. Historically, OU has sometimes been able to circle back successfully in these situations, and they should try to here because because they don't have many great LB options in this class. This is coming on the heels of 2020 when they only took 2 LBs and 2019 when they only took 1 (who already transferred).

    Do you guys know if LSU was looking at Daniels as a big nickel/rover/LB or as a more classic safety?

  3. 20 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

    Egbuka (WR) and The poly DL from WA are both trending away. Egbuka to OU which is a top 6 recruiting program right now.

    OU's recruiting is only top flight on offense.

     

    34 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    The OL class could be the issue, specifically OT. and it's a really tiny thing - because they have stacks of talent upon talent. 

    At OT, they need to land Leigh and are in a dog fight to do that. If they don't land him they are going to end up with a highly-rated class of OGs.

    At OU, Bedenbaugh doesn't seem to care where OL are projected to play. He seems to shift OG outside and OT inside regularly. This is probably a function of all being > 6-4, 300 lb. Other factors (arm length, power, quickness, decision-making) then decide where they are slotted.

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  4. 1 hour ago, golfclap said:

    Yes. 100%. He's more slender/slight in frame, but yes. Super similar. 

    He's a really good player with excellent instincts and a good ability to cover a lot of ground. It's hard to get a read for how good he could be because he's so much better than his level of competition. 

    Much like Overshown, he seems VERY unwilling to be an OLB and wants to be a S. It appears that aggy will let him (surprise) and that Clemson is entertaining it and that OU has been recruiting him as a "Rover" but his primary recruiter is Brian Odom (OU LB coach) which has been pointed out by other schools and well... that may have been a miscalculation. 

    Losing the best defensive prospect in the state has become a tradition for Oklahoma (2018, 2019, 2020).

    For Daniels, the strange thing would be losing him to A&M. He has apparently committable offers to national powers with good defensive histories. Of course OU wants him, but the saving grace for the Sooners would be that Mukes basically has the same physical profile.

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  5. Just now, stork642 said:

    Bama’s road is going to be much more treacherous with the Pirate and Kiffy coming on board.  It is usually funny how things work out.  

    This is correct.

    High variance offense + recruiting cheats equals way two significant upset opportunities for Bama, LSU.

    SEC's guaranteed one CFP slot, but the 2 bid years will hopefully diminish. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, Fud said:

    I can figure it out. Do you know how many scholarship transfers OU took in 2017 and 2018? 

    From 247, they only list JUCOs in those years (3 and 2, respectively). I don't recall any FBS/FCS transfers those years and can't find another source.

     

    6 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    I think OU wanted both. Michigan felt really good about Brown, so this seems pretty crazy 

    I think you guys are probably right in that OU won't be able to take a full 25 which may mean that they can't take 4-5 in the secondary. If this is the case, OU's secondary recruits may be Mukes, McCutchin, Johnson, Harmon (announcing Aug 1).

    Hopefully they take one more. Among public offers, Brown was most highly regarded.

  7. 7 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Ah yeah, we know that feeling. Breckyn Hager blessedly replaced by Joseph Ossai. 
     

    if you take PB and you get Gilliam, does that leave Burris out? I just don’t know how the 15 fills out. 

     

    6 hours ago, Atlfan714 said:

    It comes to a numbers game with Gilliam Burris Abiara and Coe. Read somewhere that there’s been some radio silence with Burris recently. Personally I want them to accept Gilliam Burris and abiara and coe asks us to respect his decision. 

    I don't have any inside knowledge, but it appears as though they're only going to take 3-4 LB (Studsman, Daniels, ?Kollie -- Mukes probably here eventually). That leaves 11 slots for DL, DB (6 DL, 5 DB). For the DL (Smith, Down, Coe, Rawlins-Kibonge, Burris*, Gilliam*) and DB (McCutchin, Johnson, Brown*, Harmon*, ???).

     

    7 hours ago, Fud said:

    Can OU even take 25 after taking five transfers over the past two years? 

    They've had so much attrition, especially in the secondary, that I think they have plenty of room for the 85.

  8. 39 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    or Oklahoma. 


    Foster wants to go to the Olympics. He was interviewed on IG this week and when asked if he could win a NC or Super Bowl or go to the Olympics which would he choose — and he chose Olympics. He knows that his best chance to develop as a thrower is at Texas (noting Piperi’s development under Sion). OU can sell him a lot of things on the OL and his redass mother will let him go there without a hissyfit but his lifelong friends/teammates AND his best shot at the Olympics are both in Austin and anyone who doubts both is full of shit — and that includes his mother. Foster rejoining on the heels of his discussion of the Olympics is ... interesting to me. 
     

    on his infamous spreadsheet— if his dad was actually being honest and unbiased with the data — they’d have the throwing programs and their chances of getting Foster to the Olympics listed accordingly and weighted — but of course  if they did that he’d already be at tu. Whoop.  

    A counter argument that OU may be selling is that football players have successfully played two sports at a high level in Norman. I don't know how effective that pitch is when one of the sports is weak, but that may be their strategy.

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  9. 1 hour ago, golfclap said:

    Caleb Johnson official to OU. Will be super interesting to see if they still go after Prophet Brown. That 25 cap vs their need on the 2 deep is going to be interesting to see the numbers play out 

     

    https://247sports.com/Player/Caleb-Johnson-46100091/

    OU just needs talent on defense. God bless him, but Justin Broiles proved that loving OU too much isn't going to be enough stay with NFL-caliber WR.

    If you look to take 10 on offense and 15 on defense, I'm good with taking PBrown and CJohnson. I think it shows that OU has recognized the 4-corners on the field at all times is necessary to play in CFP. I'm assuming they're planning on playing bigger CB at S/NB.

  10. 10 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

    Gotta love the self awareness to say that despite hitting the playoffs 4/6 years, Michigan might be his best offer. You know, the team that's accumulated 25 losses over the same period and whose best win in that stretch is arguably a Citrus Bowl win over a McElwain led Florida team that took OT to beat FAU.

    Michigan's defense has been much better than OU's since Don Brown has been in Ann Arbor. It makes sense that OU'd lose defensive recruits to Michigan just like I wouldn't be shocked to see OU get the good RB from Michigan (Edwards) this year.

    An OU's CB class of McCutchin, Brown, Harmon would be one I'd be excited about. That's three high upside players, which is what OU needs.

    I was excited about McMillon, and of course OU wanted Mukuba. Losing Hill wasn't such a big deal. I'm unsure if OU has any true safeties in the class right now. With the Sooners relative success in recruiting CB, I wonder if they load up on CB and move bigger ones to S. Alternatively, OU may circle back to AJ Green (Ark commit) later in the cycle. Green is apparently very talented as a DB but set on playing RB. OU may need numbers at DB and RB. Similarly, OU's Rivals site said Raheim Sanders from FL (Ark commit) was very interested in OU prior to committing to the Hogs.

     

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    That’s good shit right there. So basically, OU cashed in all their available recruiting capital and it didn’t work out and now they’re back to being stuck without momentum and headed for another top 10 to top 15 class where the offensive talent heavily outweighs the defensive talent? This is literally every single year under Riley. Rinse. Repeat. 

     

    It's completely unsurprising that OU's offensive recruiting is much better than the defensive recruiting. If it weren't, I'd assume bagmen were the cause. OU lost the best Oklahoma HS DB in in 2018 (Proctor Ohio St) and 2019 (Hill Michigan). If the Sooner defense puts up another top 40ish season in next time (2020, 2021, or whenever), then the gap will start to close.

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  11. On 7/8/2020 at 4:26 PM, Fud said:

    I think it's revisionist to say that Riley took Mordecai to be a backup. He was the only QB in that class and was toosly; Riley took him because he thought he could coach him up

    In 2018, OU put all of their eggs in the Cameron Rising basket. When he decommitted, they went after Adrian Martinez who ended up going to Nebraska.

    That year, the QB market was depleted early so there were relatively few options for OU when Mordecai, at that time a 3-star backup plan, committed on Jun 1st. I'm sure OU took him thinking he had potential, but he certainly wasn't celebrated by the coaches or fans.

    Similarly, OU didn't have great options at QB for the 2020 clases after Bryce Young went elsewhere. The Sooners ended up with Morris, but there is very little excitement with him.

    Riley's said somewhere that he'd like to take a QB annually, but he doesn't just take a body. That said, it appears OU takes a highly regarded high schooler in odd number years (Robison, Rattler, Wms), and guys with less accolades in the even years (Mordecai, Morris). I guess this bodes poorly for OU's prospects with the highly-regarded 2022 Texas QB.

  12. 1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

     

    Not sure about you're numbers quigley??

    ( Might be  $600k + $140k =  $740k savings.    Looks like Blinkin' still earns a cool $5.4mill)

    From FootballScoop:

    Oklahoma: The Sooners announced that due to COVID, employees earning a salary of $1 million per year or more are subject to a 10% salary reduction this year. Head coach Lincoln Riley made $6 million last season and the 2019 USA Today salary database lists DC Alex Grinch ($1.4 million) as the only other Sooners assistant that salary reduction would apply to.

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    (Bet some Boosters make up the salary loss for Grinch, and possibly even for Blinkin'... maybe some car dealership commercials... 😁)

    Are you calling me out on the difference between 740K vs 800k? 🤪 Lon Kruger makes about 2m so if it's everybody > 1m, he's included.

    Regardless, it's smart messaging by the Sooners athletic department.

    Both those guys have incentive bonuses greater than the 10% loss so don't think they're that worried.

  13. 20 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

    Fyi...

     

    This is good leadership messaging. The 10% salary cut will affect only three coaches I think (Riley, Grinch, and Kruger). It will save ~ 800k which is only 6% of the shortfall.

    However, it shows the community that the big dogs are sacrificing (only 3.6m, how will he make it!), and it shows the football and basketball staff that there bosses are looking out for them. It may legitimately spare some staff for these sports.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Goodman said:

    What, I thought they had this figured out? They should reach out to chidoc, he built a business from scratch. Scratch. He also has hundreds of docs and Northwestern relying on his leadership...ou likely does not need him though, they do lead the state of Oklahoma in National Merit Scholars and some other shit they made up for decades.

    If only the state of Oklahoma was as well-run as the OU football program. The Sooners were among the last teams to bring players back, and Riley has been on record from the start about his concern for player safety.

    The list of things to criticize about OU and Oklahoma about is long, but this isn' t on it.

  15. 10 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

    https://247sports.com/Article/Oklahoma-governor-Kevin-Stitt-takes-shot-at-Texas-Longhorns-calling-them-shorthorns-in-COVID-19-press-conference-148699344/

     

    Oklahoma governor takes shot at Longhorns

    Gov:  “It may take some getting used to, but it’s a small price to pay to be able to keep our businesses open, our economy running, and to be able to watch OU and OSU stick it to the shorthorns on the football field in the fall,” Stitt said during a press conference Tuesday.

     

    He's a clown for this but more for other stuff. This is just clownish behavior trying to distract us from his incompetence.

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  16. 7 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Thanks for the update. I was under the impression that Haselwood was only going to be out for the early part of the schedule in 2020. It certainly seems like 4 at WR would be a minimum type number with that depth chart, but it's going to be a challenge with the 25 cap to deal with this attrition WR while restocking from the Grinch attrition on D. 

    You may be right, but I discount the possibility of him returning as a difference-maker in 2020.As we all know, WR requires explosiveness/change of direction that will take time to rehab and trust. A best case would be for them to wait until the last couple of games of the season to play. If he feels good, use him in conference championship and playoff. If not, redshirt is intact.

    What OU really needs to do is break the cycle of boom-bust WR classes. They alternate really good with very bad classes:

    2016: 3 portals, 0 contributors

    2017: 4 contributors

    2018: 2 portals, 0 contributors

    2019: 2 promising Fr years plus Bridges

    2020: Weak recruiting class on paper

    2021: First 2 recruits look good on paper and in on some other promising ones.

  17. 6 hours ago, golfclap said:

    I was taking it as meaning 4/5 in :

    Williams. Jackson. Coleman. Farooq (he was out because of Sturdivant). Possibly Egbuka.

    @quigley does that 10 include the grad xfers as well?  The Sooners signed 3 of those on top of the recruits in the 2020 class.( As well as a PWO spot for Davion Curtis. ) I guess I hadn’t noticed the attrition at WR, if that’s the case.

    I agree that 4 isn’t too many if there’s only 10 including Obialo,  etc ... 

     

    WR attrition from OU

    2018 class 2 enrolled -2 (portal x2)

    2017 4 enrolled -3 (Brown-NFL, Lamb-NFL, Calcaterra-injury)

    2016 3 enrolled -3 (portal x3)

    Looking at the scholarship chart on 247, they have 8 WR list for 2020. That includes a walk-on, Stoops' son,  a guy with torn ACL (Haselwood), and a guy suspended for weed for 6 games (Bridges). Only 1 of the 3 new Fr is included on the chart. Of the 2 unlisted player, there are rumblings one may be moved to RB (Darby). Sprinkle in 2 grad transfers (1 of the transfers is walked-on at Miss St and recorded 0 receptions), subtract one torn Achilles tendon (Howard).

    So... 8 - 4 (nepotism/walk-on/injured/suspended) = 4           4 + 3 (minus 1 RB) = 5              5 + 2 (minus 1 Achilles) = 7

    That's why I said "about 10." OU may really rely on nepotism/walk-ons in 2020. OU may run a lot of 21, 22 bc they've got talent and experience there.

    Bridges will be back for latter part of whatever of 2020 season occurs. Haselwood/Howard are of course on the books but out until 2021, but there is uncertainty in WR returning from those injures. The Obiolo will be off the books for 2021.

    That's why numbers for 2021 may be a bigger than anticipated.

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  18. 3 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Oof. Update comes in above the note from earlier today where talks about Sturdivant causing Farooq to be a numbers casualty. So close.  

     

     

    Update ::

    And just like that, myself and Steve Wiltfong have talked with sources to get more info. A source told me, “It doesn’t look like its (OU) for Sturdivant.” So, I’m leaning Cal right now, and it does look like OU will be able to take Farooq if it plays out like we have discussed on here for weeks.

    I’m am CB’ing Sturdivant to Cal.

    Again, we will update as we get more info.

    *******

    There are two top Sooners WR targets announcing on July 4th. Both seem to be leaning to OU, if I was to guess. We are working to nail down theJ.Michael Sturdivant deal. He says he is announcing on Saturday. No one really knows what to actual deal is with him just yet, as he just popped out of the blue with his announcement date.

    Source I have spoken with tell me, “Unsure with numbers.” Another tells me, “(OU) can’t take all of them. Someone will get left out.”

    Five-star WR Emeka Egbuka will not get left out if he decides on OU... IF... He has a spot no matter what. That comes with being a five-star WR. Same goes with commits Cody Jackson and Mario Williams.

    Keon Coleman is set to announce on the fourth and if the Sooners want they can make him an athlete for numbers sake. That is, if the Sooners are Ryne choice for Coleman. Will OU do that? We will know more after July 4th on that. Right now, he looks like a WR take for the Sooners if he chooses OU on the 4th.

    Four-star Jalil Farooq is the wild card. He was once a guy that looked destined to OU, but he may want to wait a bit longer. In doing so he may not have a spot in Norman. Obviously, the Sooners would live to have a guy like Farooq, but if Sturdivant and Coleman choose OU, and the Sooners don’t make Coleman an athlete, it looks like the line spot left — and its a tentative one — is for five-star Emeka Egbuka.

    All in all, OU is just wanting to see how the fourth plays out and go from there. If Sturdivant and Coleman join LincUp21 class the Sooners will be down to one spot that is reserved for Egbuka or bust.

    We will continue to update this story as we get more info. Myself and Steve Wiltfong are digging into this as we speak.

     

    Is this what you guys extract from this?

    OU 2021 WR: 3 - 4 (4 if Egbuka)

    IN: Mario Williams, Cody Jackson

    Plus one more: Jalil Farooq, Coleman, or circle back to one of the other guys they've had on their radar (Sturdivant, Malcolm Johnson, etc)

    OU only has about 10 WR in the program this year so taking four doesn't seem excessive.

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