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  1. An interesting story because it will likely have significant long-term effects on the views of religious folks. 

    Pope Francis, in Shift for Church, Voices Support for Same-Sex Civil Unions

    The comments, made in a new documentary, are the strongest yet from a pontificate that has taken a more tolerant and inclusive tone.

    Pope Francis, who since the beginning of his pontificate has taken a more tolerant tone toward homosexuality, appeared to break with the position of the Roman Catholic Church by supporting civil unions for same-sex couples, according to remarks Francis made in a new documentary that debuted in Rome on Wednesday.

    Speaking about pastoral outreach and care for people who identified as L.G.B.T., Francis directly addresses the issue of civil unions in the film.

    “What we have to create is a civil union law. That way they are legally covered,” Francis said amid remarks in which he otherwise reiterated his support for gay people as children of God. “I stood up for that.”

    It was not immediately clear when Francis made those remarks, but Evgeny Afineevsky, the director of the documentary, ‘‘Francesco,’’ said that Francis made the remarks directly to him for the film.

    Church teaching considers homosexual acts “intrinsically disordered” and the church is opposed to gay marriage.

    In 2003, under the pontificate of Pope John Paul II, the church’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then led by the future Pope Benedict XVI, issued “Considerations regarding proposals to give legal recognition to unions between homosexual persons,” in which it wrote, “The Church teaches that respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behavior or to legal recognition of homosexual unions.”

    Matteo Bruni, a spokesman for the Vatican, declined to comment until he had seen the movies and the pope’s remarks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/world/europe/pope-francis-same-sex-civil-unions.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  2. 4 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

    I see some of you giving props to Lina Hidalgo. Forgive my ignorance, but what is her role in the huge turnout in Harris County? 

    There was $30 million for voting improvements in 2020 versus $4 million spent in 2016 for Harris County. I don't know how much credit she deserves for that, but an 800% increase in spending is pretty cool. 

  3. I want to start a game thread on the football board for UTSA v. Mormons, but it's not allowed. I've been paying tree fiddy a month since that was a thing, why can't I start a thread on the football board? Go Roadrunners! 

  4. 29 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

    It was dumb to say that, but it was clearly his choice.

    Bit more circumspect here. But, this is also where his format fails.  People will continue to trip over the snippet and won't listen to longer description.  Podcast boy gonna have to eat it, but I'm sure that $100MM will soothe him.

     

    So he invites toxic people that promote racist misogynistic views onto his show and then is shocked and hurt when he gets pushback on it. I don't dislike the guy, but grow the fuck up with that sensitive bullshit. Research your guests if you're going to be so sensitive about what people think about your guests. 

    • Hook 'Em 2
  5. 57 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Good post.

    The Court has been majority Catholic for 35 years, I believe, since 1985.  That's a strange fact in and of itself.

    But, Catholics aren't monolithic even if Catholicism is anti-abortion.

    A variety of things make me uneasy about Amy Coney Barrett, but Catholicism alone is not one of those things.

    Agreed. Though I haven't seen any comments from leading Democrats about her faith. I've only seen negative views about how she'll likely overturn Obamacare (and Roe) and imperil the healthcare of millions of citizens, and that's fair game. 

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