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Is JV Joey going to get Tech to the B12 CG next year?
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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:
When I was 22, straight out of college, I got a commission check for $9k in one pay period. When I deposited the check, I kept $3k of it in order to see what that amount of money looked like. I’d seen pots in gambling at gatherings get above $2k, but never higher. I went back to my office and put it down in front of me and counted it like 4 times with the door closed.
Getting offered $5M as a guy who just turned 17, I don’t know how you don’t take that money and never look back. I don’t think that is a low IQ move. That part of the story isn’t something that causes judgment on my end, at least.
They’re going to play him as a true freshman. That money doesn’t sit the bench. He’s not going to get any time to develop and he’s technically terrible with no hip flexibility. He’s probably ruined his career by making the choice he’s made, so hopefully he’s careful with that $3+M that he winds up with after taxes.
If he’s Kelvin Banks 2.0, he is worth it. If he isn’t, there are a bunch of ways this deals screws up their team.
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If the market calls for a HS recruit to get paid really high, more than some starters, you better be damned sure he’s going to work out. For comparison, I remember in 2001 (damn, that was a long time ago), Texas signed an OL “Class of Beef”. This was to lay a foundation for a NC OL. These guys were all studs, all offered by several top programs. They were Jonathan Scott (All American, high draft pick, had multi year NFL career that would have been a lot better without a horrific rookie injury), Will Allen (starting G on NC team, no real desire to pursue NFL), Mike Garcia (regular depth piece), Roman Reeves, Terrance Young (backup), William Winston. Texas really wanted to Sign Jami Hightower, but he signed with the Ags, where he was a multi year starter that never made the NFL.
What’s the point? It’s that if you paid market value for a class like that, you would be having uncomfortable conversations with over half of them after one year.
This is a crazy market now.-
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54 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:
Going to skip over anything Tafoya has to say. She’s an absolute nut job of a human being.
Please. You have the Cloak Room, the Daily Texan and Business and Markets. Can you keep CR comments out of the sports boards?
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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:
Texas continues to operate by a different rule book by everyone even in this era. We always have ever since the 80s. And for what reason? So some old fucks can feel morally superior why other programs continue to win national titles by cheating and pushing the rule books.
William Cunningham was UT president from 1985-1992. He was a good president and he is a good guy, but he was awful for UT football. He wanted the most complying program possible, and he got it. Texas was 50-41 over those years, the 45th best win percentage in the nation. Texas went 4-4 against OU, 1-7 vs the Ags, 3-5 against Baylor, 4-4 vs UH, and 6-10 against every major conference non-conference opponent.
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25 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:
Deloitte ain’t fighting shit. All it will take is the first lawsuit for them to back off. They’re just interested in grifting revenue from the NCAA clowns.
That is a great point. Deloitte is in the business of selling services (accounting, consulting). I have a hard time imagining them pissing off business leaders everywhere. As a matter of fact, I bet they took this gig with the idea that it would expand their business as institutions contract with them for other services, in hope of currying favor for their favorite college programs.
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I have great ideas for team names:
Shrews
Harpies
Banshees
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Oh, those bitches hate her. Seriously, if any of you ever meet a WNBA player, you have to ask them, “Do you know Caitlin Clark? Is she as awesome as she seems?”
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23 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:
She's got...saggy eyes? Not sure how to describe it. Same thing with Betty Davis and Elizabeth Moss. Who I would also fuck but do not consider to be beauties by any means.
It’s called “doe-eyed” and it has been used to describe a feminine trait that men consider hot for centuries
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8 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:
Accepting an offer from a school you have no interest in attending is a common practice. How many readers here applied to a backup university they knew that unless shit went sideways they were never attending.
You have just described why Marcus DuPree committed to Texas. He wanted to be able to tell dozens of other schools to buzz off while he entertained bids from the real suitors- OU, Mississippi State, Southern Miss and Pittsburgh (Sherrill was the coach). Texas was the stalking horse.
Texas finally figured it out and started recruiting Anthony Byerly a couple of weeks before signing day.-
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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
my guess is we’re sticking to the “strict salary cap” of revenue sharing and using TOF as “legitmate” NIL only. While teams like Ohio State, Georgia, USC are continuing as normal in addition to the revenue share cap.
If, by November, it appears there are no guardrails enforcing the new “rules”, Texas can adapt.
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The TexasOne announcement (going for-profit, not rolling into AD, maintaining flexibility while seeing how the system develops) is encouraging
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10 hours ago, SL Xpress said:
Ha! I won a bunch of high school debates with that argument. Back in the early 80s high school kids weren't ready to make counter arguments. Made one girl break down in tears.
The amount of spending on college athletes is entirely dependent on how much ego wealthy alums have tied up in seeing their alma mater be successful. Or in the case of Larry Ellison, apparently his wife's alma mater. Texas isn't going to be able to force other schools to spend money they don't have unless the enforcement arm of the House settlement is actually effective. My bet is that it's not effective for any number of reasons and the spending cap becomes a mirage. It will be interesting to see how schools like Texas respond. Right now the sales pitch is you can make more in Austin with legitimate NILs than you can anywhere else because of the size of the city and no sports team, plus the Longhorn national brand. I'm not saying that's wrong, but if an extremely wealthy person from another school wants to spend a decent portion of their wealth on college athletics, that's going to trump Austin's potential NIL market.
But maybe the House settlement sticks.
I know shit about fuck, but I can speculate.
-The House settlement: for 10-20 programs, this limits what they will pay players. For the rest of FBS, it requires them to pay their players more than they had been. (Note- this money comes from the AD and I’ll bet every AD, not just OU’s, has to sweat to varying degrees to come up with it).
-The surprising thing to me is how rarely we are seeing pissant programs, now required to budget $15-17M for players, sign blue chips.
-I suspect Texas is being outbid by programs ready to challenge the limits of the NIL Clearinghouse. Such challenges are a solid bet.
-I think the Texas program doesn’t want to back from competition. I don’t think the Tower is likely to force them to do so, as happened under Cunningham. If the Tower does, we will know when we see Sark take another job. (Not saying that is the only reason he would leave, but there is no way he is going to allow himself to become David MacWilliams or late term Akers)-If these recruitments are about NIL, then it’s smart to wait until the end for your final bid. All the other cards are laid down, you know the cost, you know the other player options, you know more about the recruit, and you have a sense of where regulation of rules is.
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5 hours ago, closetojumping said:
It also might have helped that Bama didn't integrate the football team until the 1971 season. Elevate talent, innovate on offense and, voila, a great decade.
When did Bryant switch out his aging staff for a bunch of new blood? My father's told me all of my life that one of the key things Bear did that DKR didn't was that he switched out his staff when things got stale and Bama wasn't winning at the level that Bryant thought they should be. I've never really fact-checked that, but your post reminded me of the premise.
I don’t know- Royal never had much of a coaching tree (Pittman? MacWilliams, Bellard, Akers), and Bryant’s is definitely better (Schnellenberger, Stallings, Perkins, fuck Sherrill, Bum Phillips). They both had long term security blankets as DC- Campbell at Texas and Donahue at Bama.
I collect old game programs and I’m amazed at some staffs that teams can put together. Examples:1966 Oklahoma- HC MacKenzie, assistants Fairbanks, Switzer, Rice, Hall, Lacewell
1984 Iowa- HC Fry, assistants Snyder, Stoops, Ferentz, Alvarez
I don’t know that Texas ever had a staff like that.
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11 hours ago, Derka said:
In the2019 playoffs,KD (his mind made up that he was leaving) was determined to go off, and until his injury, was giving the NBA a clinic on what was possible. Then, he came back in the finals, was putting on another “man among boys” exhibition, and tore his Achilles. Oh, to have seen what he would have done e healthy.
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1 hour ago, Mittens said:
This looks so much like an AI picture
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There were three prior:
book
1973 movie
Bruce Willis movie
and this one. In the priors,…
Spoiler…they always found the “mole” and stopped the Jackal. In this one, they never found the mole (although Osi knows who it is now) and didn’t stop the Jackal.
Looking fwd to next season, where I assume Osi is the counter and “Gary the spotter” plays a big role?
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OU Deep DivePart 2:
Wilkinson quit and was replaced by his chief assistant, Gomer (yep) Jones. By year two, it was clear that Jones didn’t have it, so OU shitcanned him (university president Cross was a big football fan and he wasn’t having it).
They made a run at Royal, who listened out of courtesy to his alma mater, and turned him down. They hired Jim MacKenzie, Broyles’ chief assistant, and he accepted. He brought a pretty terrific staff- Chuck Fairbanks, Barry Switzer, Homer Rice, Galen Hall, Larry Lacewell, all young and ambitious. Under the new management, OU recommitted to integration and recruiting Texas. They beat Texas their first year, for the first time since 1957.
MacKenzie died of a heart attack and was replaced by Fairbanks. They took two major steps:1. They got aggressive in recruiting, highlighted by winning the bidding war for Texas HS QB Jack Mildren.
2. In 1970, they adopted the Wishbone offense. The story of how Royal told Bellard to teach it to OC Switzer, out of misguided coaching camaraderie and trying to do a solid for his alma mater, wasn’t told until years after Switzer’s autobiography came out. In his book, Switzer describes it as if he figured the offense out on his own, taking full credit. Of course, because that’s the kind of narcissist Switzer is.
OU won big in the ‘70s, propelled by elite talent and easy Big 8 schedules. The Sooners would have three challenging games per year- Texas, Nebraska and a bowl opponent or non-conference game.
Fairbanks (yes, he is the owner of DFW Chevy dealership “Chuck Fairbanks Chevrolet”) left for the NFL and was replaced by Switzer, who felt even less restrained by NCAA rules (as well as common standards of decency).
OU got in trouble with the NCAA for cheating and academic fraud to get players eligible. Royal called them out for spying on closed Texas practices, which Switzer denied, but confronted years later by the spy’s confession, admitted to while laughing at Toyal for getting upset. That was Switzer- he cheated, won and laughed about it. The school didn’t care- Criss was the Chancellor and there was still very much an attitude that if the program got in trouble, it was the program’s problem, not the school’s.
A few things to note, to close out the ‘70s and early ‘80s-We all know that Texas lost the MNC in 1977, losing to ND. Did you know that OU could have won it, if they had beaten heavy underdog Arkansas in the Orange Bowl? They lost and the story is that in large part it was due to the inattention of DC Lacewell. Switzer was banging Lacewell’s wife and when Lacewell found out, he lost focus on his job. Lacewell left the next year.
Switzer was arrested for DWI, which really wasn’t a surprise (well, the arrest may have been a surprise, but that he would drive drunk wasn’t). He pled to a misdemeanor.
Switzer was arrested for insider trading on an energy company that was purchased by another. In his book, Switzer describes it as a totally bogus charge, which is funny. It’s funny because the Switzer insider trading case became a major precedent for understanding insider trading. Switzer made up a bullshit story that he didn’t know he was trading in an insider tip, and the success of that defense became a major part of case law.
Finally- OU’s reliance on the wishbone was wearing out. It worked fine against Big 8 competition, but Texas defenses, coordinated by Fuller and MacWilliams, were playing assignments football and shutting it down. Their lack of success against even pedestrian Longhorn teams (Texas lost one RRS between 1977 and 1981) and Switzer’s legal issues were starting to cause him problems.
Could Switzer coach his way out of this?Could Switzer cheat his way out of this?
Stay tuned.
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6 hours ago, closetojumping said:
What's coming is worse than any of this. This motherfucker is about to be an even bigger cancer for UT athletics than he always has been.
Oh, shit. He’s not going to try to be a journalist, is he?
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Here is a great explainer article about Iran’s nuclear program, and how it was structured to show compliance while still progressing to nukes. It was written before Saturday’s strike. Don’t waste your time reading it if you are pre-set to believe and argue a position on either side.
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The CFP byes were almost three weeks, whereas the NFL byes are one week. In the NFL, bodies get healthier in a week. In the CFP, a three week bye made rust a factor. Didn’t every CFP bye team lose their first game?
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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
If they don’t use that ordnance, they may have to dump it in the ocean rather than trying to land with it and putting the wear and tear on the airframe, which is a lot of expensive toys wasted.
My guess is they are either going to use it, or the aircraft are empty and they are putting misinformation/disinformation out there making it look like we will bomb.
I have to interject.
On aerospace design projects, there are several different teams of structural analysts. One team is called “The Loads Group”. This is the team that determines the flight loads to design to, based on flight cases.
Example: the vertical tail front spar for a twin engine airliner is typically sized by this load case- “one engine goes out when the airplane is 50 feet off the tarmac, requiring full thrust from the other engine, and full rudder to compensate, while the airplane ascends enough to return to land”. The spar must have a positive Margin of Safety (MS) for that load case.
I can assure you, there is a load case for the STRATEGIC NUCLEAR BOMBER to land with a full complement of undelivered weapons. They will dump fuel. They will not dump weapons.
Back to your scheduled programming.-
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I think FBS, and especially P4 FBS playoff games, is a more physical sport. If physicality of Texas 5A playoffs is a 1, and NFL playoffs is a 10, FBS CFP could be a 7 or 8. FCS playoffs would be a 5.
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Did you catch the bit in one of the write ups where he mentions his conversation with Brent Venables? I think that’s where the optimistic OU talk comes from. OU can be terrific, if Mateer levels up and turns out to be as durable as Tebow or Ehlinger, if Ott is fully back, if Burks plays as well as the Sooners claimed he did in Spring 2024 drills, if they have good luck with health. That’s a lot of heads that have to come up in a row.
Last year, I didn’t see it in any grocery stores or Walmart, even. B&N was the only place I saw it.