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Posts posted by Jasper_Jester
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K State vs Ok State doesn't qualify for network TV....But K State vs Stanford did?
K-State Wildcats at Oklahoma State Cowboys: kickoff, TV info | The Kansas City Star
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1 hour ago, kopp0e said:
So, Kansas still wants out..? By themselves to B1G..? Or in a group with Houston/ TCU/ Texas Tech (or) Oklahoma State..?
seems like a violation of the sacred bylaws.
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1 minute ago, Pancho said:
so, a gentleman's agreement....Hopefully Oklahoma is doing the same right now with OSU.
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2 hours ago, pops said:
I can see that, and obviously Disney has their own successful streaming platform, but between espn+ and Disney + they have approximately 55 million subscribers based on the numbers I could find. Prime has 150 million (these are all US only numbers)
Obviously espn is in every basic cable package in the country so they have access to more eyeballs at the moment but I'm not sure how long people are going to just keep paying the cable company for 200 channels they never watch. Will be interesting to see it play out.
150M people use Prime Video? that is crazy! there is nothing on that service ever!
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2 minutes ago, pops said:
This is the most interesting thing about all of this. Espn has no chance against Amazon if they really want to jump in to the college scene. Bezos could pay every playoff team 100m every year and it would be a blip on his radar.
I think in 5-10 years we will all be consuming more live sports on Amazon/ Netflix than cable.
It seems strange to me that Amazon's revenue (which is primarily from AWS and then retail services) is lumped together with its revenue related its entertainment arm, but ESPN, which is part of the Disney, ABC, 21st Century Fox is being viewed as a stand alone entity. I highly doubt that an entertainment empire is letting a internet website, cloud storage, and mail order company with a side hustle streaming service (with third tier content) completely take over its bread and butter without a fight....But, we will see.
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6 minutes ago, tantric superman said:
Good god it's a shitty song, whoever it offends.
I'll sing it every time, but I have to say, when I showed up on campus and we learned it my first thought was "what the fuck does all this shit mean?" We would be just fine if we let the wokes take a win on this one. We would have to work really hard to come up with a dumber replacement.
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1 minute ago, 'stache said:
It's never going to get to that. Its set up to lead to negotiated buyouts. Do you really think ESPN would broadcast a game to which it does not own the rights? That just doesn't happen. A buyout will be negotiated.
Yeah, you are right, ESPN would never broadcast Texas A&M at Texas or Alabama at Texas or Florida at Oklahoma...Because they hate money.
If it came to that, they would broadcast all the games and wish us luck in court. Just like Texas let Joe Wickline do shitty coaching even though he breached his contract with OSU.
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1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:
BYU can't wait for road trips to UCF. The Book of Mormon taught me they love the city of Orlando.
here are some now, already heading over
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4 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:
Short sleeve button up shirts with ties as far as the eye can see. It might be glorious, but calling it a rivalry today seems pretty strange.
Sure, but rivalries are good for sports, even invented ones. Since Texas is every one of the I8's biggest game each year, we have to give them replacements.
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Or the Chili Bowl - Cincinnati vs Kansas (with a cinnamon roll)
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9 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:
The biggest football rivalry in the new Big 12 is easily Farmageddon, the game that Kansas State always wins due to some hilarious Iowa State fuckup, other than last year when Iowa State won by about 60 points.
what about the Holy Bowl, Baptists vs Mormons?
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1 hour ago, 'stache said:
Here's a deal for you guys. Since you're the big swinging dick here, tell ESPN to keep the payments the same for the New Big XII for, say, 7-10 years. That'll resolve your GOR damages claim. We'll also agree to reduce the buyout. Then, we fire Bowsby, hire someone competent, and do everything we can in these "preview years" to show that we are equally or more valuable than the fucking PAC and ACC.
Tell us you aren't ready to be the man of the house without telling us you aren't ready to be the man of the house.
Just take our buyout and let us be free!
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1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:
Well ok maybe it is personal for some of us. But Patterson wasn't there in 1996.
Besides can we really punish a whole school for having a coach who negatively recruits? What are they supposed to do? Fire him for that?
I still have a beef with some of these Big 12 schools who screwed us in Coaches polls hurting our chances for better bowl games. And other than Gundy all of those coaches are long gone now. In my mind you can hold on to these petty things for as long as you like.
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5 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
We'll always be kinda mad about this. You'll always feel like we should be grateful you graced us with your presence and all this back and forth isn't changing a single mind.
Every Irate 8 school knows it wasn't personal. We're mad because we're the only schools in our position that actually get treated like this.
We aren't mad that Texas is joining the SEC. We're mad that Oregon State isn't sweating shit.
I personally don't think ISU should be grateful. But they should have been prepared.
Oregon State isn't sweating (right now) because there is more tradition in the Pac 12. But they should be nervous.
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7 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
Nah, my point was that short of bringing in some other blue bloods, this was going to happen regardless of whether you had Bob Bowlsby or Jim Delaney in that office.
If the Big 12 had tried to pound their chest and point out the stupid narratives, you guys would bitch about how whiny the conference looked and how it was embarrassing.
If the conference had scheduled more big time OOC games, it would inevitably lose some, and then the teams would have worse records and get less respect from ESPN and you'd say the exact same shit you're saying now.
It didn't take long for ESPN to decided they wanted you guys and OU in the SEC, and once that decision was made, there wasn't anything any suit in an office could do. Bowlsby's a fucking vegetable, but he's a symptom more than he's a cause.
Feels like you are just making grievances up now.
I don't know that anyone is saying Iowa State should have scheduled Notre Dame and Alabama (Texas does, but that is neither here not there), I think people are saying everyone should have stopped scheduling FCS schools. That certainly would have helped the prestige of the conference.
And, We are Texas, we like bragging, if the conference bragged, we would have gone right along.
But, I'm not going to lie, this thing was broken from the jump and got worse when people bailed. But, Texas did commit to sticking it out when they could have bailed long ago. So, whatever transpired since, 10 years ago Texas was committed to making this work and it is going to cost a lot of money to get out of the commitment so this isn't happening lightly.
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23 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
Definitely. I'm curious what the Big 12 was supposed to do on that. The TV Networks put them in this slot, and it's very obvious that a certain TV Network was intentionally trying to make OU and Texas unhappy in their current home.
What does Fox have against OU? That is the network that has the OU vs Nebraska game. The conference was supposed to leverage Fox to give up the game so ESPN could put it on in Prime Time.
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First rule of Alliance is you don't talk about the "Alliance". Second rule is you have to do whatever the Big 10 decides. Third rule is Big XII schools stop asking to join the other conferences in the "Alliance." Fourth rule is have fun in the "Alliance"
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18 minutes ago, huge said:
On record taking ISU and the points.
Since I've been mean to ISU in this thread, I will continue the trend and take Iowa to win outright.
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6 hours ago, texifornia said:
Holy legibility Batman
what does it say? I feel like I am color blind, though I know I didn't use to be. Maybe this broke my eyesight?
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47 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Would be fucking hilarious if Rice beats UH on Sat and then they invite Rice to the Big 12.
Maybe they should have a play in competition. Have a 64 team tourney and the final 4 get a Big XII invite. It would be one of the few times in its history the Big XII was entertaining to people not affiliated with the schools in it.
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2 minutes ago, 'stache said:
I don't think it's firm yet that OSU, KU, ISU, etc. are forever stuck, and I suspect most of the remaining 8 will not sign a grant of rights (and it may already be known before expansion). I think the "new" Big 12 is better competitively than the PAC and the non-Clemson ACC, but won't be paid like it, which is unfortunate.
The GOR is basically the only thing that gets an enlarged Big XII a chance for more broadcast revenue than the AAC. Bowlsby is going to come knocking for a renewal of the GOR so you can get your contract renewed. And if you don't sign, you are home wreckers like us and need to show up with $80M... Everyone else in the conference is voting yes on extending the GOR (including the new family members you are inviting to come play). Does T Boone's family have interest in buying you guys out? Where does Kansas and ISU keep their $80M stacks of cash?
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50 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
In '17, '18, and '20 we were in "win and you're in" the CCG scenarios in November. IMO, "driver's seat" means you control your own destiny. It doesn't mean you're the best team or the odds on favorite.
ok, but by that definition, Texas also was in the driver's seat in 2017, 2018, and 2020. So, I guess the Big XII clown car has multiple drivers.
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3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
And of course then go on to beat most of the Big 12.
The recency bias is strong in this post. Congrats on washing away all the 2 and 3 win seasons. I respect your fan base, but it would take me longer than 4 good seasons to to make that claim if I was a Cyclone fan.
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Sorry if already posted, but this is how one lawyer sees this playing out in an article he wrote 8 years ago. I think the variable here is Fox.
Myth of the Big 12's Grant of rights | FOX Sports
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Mostly because of the dumb times they schedule their games. I think the Texas at Cal game ended some time between 11:30 and midnight PDT.
That is just illogical to agree play games that late.