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  1. 1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

    An underlying crime makes it easier to prosecute obstruction because it helps demonstrate the intent but it is absolutely possible to convict someone for obstruction without an underlying crime. For example, a parent who obstructs a police investigation into their kid because they suspect their kid has drugs and doesn't want them to get caught can be guilty of obstruction even though they aren't sure and even if the kid in fact has no drugs.

     

    And would you fucks quit quoting Kiss?

    Why would anyone obstruct the investigation of something that never happened? 

  2. 2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    This is false.

    That is what the AG is saying in this case.

    In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloguing the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of­ justice offense.

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  3. 5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

    Agreed from an obstruction/collusion aspect. Need to subpoena Mueller for obstruction questions IF there isn't a broader release (looks like there will be). There is so much on the policy/stupidity side that we should focus on in anticipation for 2020, but we won't because Dems.

    Can't obstruct without a crime to obstruct.

  4. 14 hours ago, Kiss said:

    Yes! I'm an American. But not for long. I'm leaving. Ex Pat all the way, baby.

    America is a shit hole country now. Total 2nd world dive and plummeting. Anybody can see this. The dollar is becoming worthless.

    Where are you thinking of moving to? I have been thinking of eventually moving to Ensenada/Baja, Mexico.

  5. 24 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

    The very founding of the FBI was based on collecting dirt on political enemies. Shit, the thing that should scare the shit out of everyone here is the simple fact that the absolute heart of the investigation (carter page) who was the original FISA concern and was monitored for 2 years before the SC was appointed didn’t get sniffed for an indictment. 

    What else would an investment banker in Moscow be doing? Talking to Russian politicians was a sure sign of nefarious activity. 

  6. 52 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

    I still haven't seen any definitive confirmation there are no sealed indictments. 

    This was posted this morning and says they don't know. All that's really definitive is the report has been delivered and Mueller is finished SC. 

    The report was given out by the media as soon as it was released. Had there been anything in it, it would have been released Thursday AM around 9 AM, or better yet, Monday AM at 9 AM.

    The fact that it was released when it was. supports that there is not anything in it.

     

  7. 7 minutes ago, Loco said:

    So I'm confused, has anyone here read a single word of the report?   It sure seems like the Trumkins are flying the Mission Complete banner.   I just wonder why they went from Witch Hunt to GG so fast.

    Sad that so many people here thought there was anything do it. But, considering the coverage, I guess I can understand why.

     

     

  8. 4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

    He has a remarkable record of indictments and convictions.

    We should probably wait on the report before concluding that Donald Trump has been cleared of wrongdoing.

    After a short stint in private practice, Mueller returned to public service as a homicide prosecutor in Washington, D.C. in 1995, where Mueller reportedly had a tough time forging relationships with victims, suspects, and government witnesses and was charged with being cold and unsympathetic.

    "He was a gruff guy, and a lot of times, there wasn't much warmth or ability to really build a bond or connect with a victim-witness," one of Mueller’s fellow investigators told the Times. "There's times when you've got to bond with the suspect to get what you need. His personality wasn't necessarily the best for that."

    Mueller was also criticized for his time as head of the FBI. He led the investigation into the deadly anthrax attacks in the years after 9/11 for nearly seven years, ultimately leading in the prosecution of the wrong suspect, who later successfully sued the government for $5.8 million.

    After agents successfully traced back the anthrax to an Army microbiologist who committed suicide once he was informed of the impending charges, Mueller “was reluctant to publicly address the missteps” in the case.

    "I think he was personally embarrassed," a former aide told the Times. "I would assess him as someone that can't accept the fact that he screwed up."

    https://www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-aides-criticize-722670

  9. 2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Remember when we had that president everyone thought was a Russian asset and they appointed a special counsel only to find nothing...except an enormous Russian criminal conspiracy to get that president elected involving his campaign staff and Russian spies? 

    Yeah, that was a complete waste of money and time. 

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