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DanTheHorn

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  1. 8 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

    Some of the states, like Mississippi, are so low on testing anyone, I'm wondering if they are even testing after someone has passed away.

    Fox News (Laura Ingram) is saying that people that are COVID-19 positive should not really be counted as COVID-19 deaths if they died of their underlying condition (Yesterday's show). So if I am made weak by COVID-19 and my condition is given a chance to win out then don't count it since it makes Trump look bad.

  2. 5 minutes ago, Dirk X West said:

    How about: WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL YESTERDAY IT COULD BE SPREAD BY PEOPLE WITHOUT SYMPTOMS  ?

    Add Dr. Fauci to that list.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/anthony-fauci-security-detail/index.html

    Watching Ingram opening statement and they are blaming him for the President's poor decisions on the economy. Instead of saying, guess what folks we did not prepare and Germany is already doing what we should be doing but we can't because we wasted a ton of time trying to downplay this virus. Years ago I watched Fox more often to balance out CNN but now they are all ideologues with zero integrity. The folks with a little bit of objectivity have all been pushed out. Joe married Mika and he is now preaching. Just no objective hosts anywhere anymore.

     

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    Target audience
    Public health authorities and hospital administrators in EU/EEA countries and the United Kingdom.


    Use of cloth face masks for protection against COVID-19 in clinical settings
    There is limited guidance and clinical research to inform on the use of reusable cloth face masks for protection against respiratory viruses. Available evidence shows that they are less protective than surgical masks and may even increase the risk of infection due to moisture, liquid diffusion and retention of the virus. Penetration of particles through cloth is reported to be high. In one study, 40–90% of particles penetrated the mask. In a cluster randomised controlled trial, cases of influenza-like illness and laboratory-confirmed viral illness were significantly higher among healthcare workers using cloth masks compared to the ones using surgical masks [1,2]. Altogether, common fabric cloth masks are not considered protective against respiratory viruses and their use should not be encouraged. In the context of severe personal protective equipment (PPE) shortages, and only if surgical masks or respirators are not available, home-made cloth masks (e.g. scarves) are proposed as a last-resort interim solution by the US CDC until availability of standard PPE is restored

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/ppe-strategy/face-masks

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/cloth-masks-sterilisation-options-shortage-surgical-masks-respirators

    Will if true this sucks.

  4. 1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

    2 final points - 
    a) OP what is this hot that you mention - gloomy overcast high of 46 here today (I miss Texas)
    ii) MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS

    I could have saved myself lots of grief on this thread if I had not mentioned my thoughts yet I thought it was worth it because like me I think people will need to change their attitude on surgical masks. Maybe if it was just me at the time  but I doubt it.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, utee94 said:

    I haven't been anywhere public yet, but when I do, I'll have my choice of Spiderman, Toy Story, My Little Pony, or Star Wars.  Pretty certain I know which one I'll be rocking.

    Yea mine will come from an old Texas shirt when I do make it. Maybe even a polo so that I am ready for game day. Just kidding, we are probably not going to have a football season this fall. By 2021 we may have immunizations or heard immunity or I made it through getting sick or am gone, either way I can watch from where I am at without concern.

  6. I am interested in what others think regarding surgical masks. Last week I did not wear a mask on my grocery trip and had an internal smirk seeing others wear a face mask knowing it does not protect the person wearing the mask. I changed my tune this week and wore a mask and sunglasses on my grocery trip for the following reasons before it became hot argument today.

    1) Suppose to act like you have it even if you don't so wear a mask.

    2) Wife says I was constantly touching my face on the first grocery trip without noticing. So mask would block hand touches directly to nose and mouth. Sunglasses rap so they block access to the eyes.

    So I wore them and never took them off. Got home sanitized hands outside took them off discarded mask and sanitized sunglasses and then sanitized hands again.

    Arguments against mask that don't make sense to me.

    1) Mask can become infected and then can infect me when discarding. Well hell, I probably would already touched my nose or mouth if I infected mask.

    2) Mask can cause you to touch face more. I guess if it is uncomfortable, I have seen people take them off and then put it back on while shopping. I say put it on and it only comes off before going back into the house.

    I am thinking of making cloth ones that can be washed that way I am not fighting to find masks that are best used at hospitals anyway. 

    What say you? To wear or not to wear? To make or to get disposables?

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-sparks-face-mask-debate-should-you-wear-them

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/asia/coronavirus-mask-messaging-intl-hnk/index.html

     

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  7. I hate to give this fucker credit but I was already wearing a mask since if your suppose to act like you have it then you wear a mask even if it does not protect one it protects others and one is protected from touching one's own face. Well, Trump scarf suggestion finally brought it to the general public and the CDC is taking notice and thinking of changing their tune. Even CNN is starting to say Asia may have had it right. Still one good thing in a world of screw-up means he has been a crap leader.

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  8. 1 hour ago, Drew said:

    Who's stuck in their houses?  I'm actually very surprised so many Surly's are saying they're staying indoors and under some type of REAL Lock Down.  

    Just about every business I know is open and people are on the roads...it's basically business as usual, except for Schools and Dine in Only Restaurants.  That's it.

    Lulz at the "Shelter in Place".  It's just unenforceable social distancing.  

    Where do you live? I was out today for groceries and 183 is pretty much empty compared to a regular Sunday. Yes there was more traffic but business at usual in Austin is traffic at a stand still.

  9. 2 hours ago, Pancho said:

    Welp, looks like Republicans (the shittiest people) have their upcoming new talking point. 

    Mitch is telling people that the government couln't concentrate on COVID-19 because impeachment was distracting them.  Chingao. 

    You mean Republicans had to come up for air from sucking Trump's mushroom and deal with Democrats? They would have been following Trump's lead and taking it lightly anyway.

  10. 2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

    I mean it does if you're going to say how things look in a different country entirely.

    No different than showing what a regular day at BFBama trailer park looks and call it New York.

    BFBama trailer park being compared Oklahoma trailer park would probably be a better analogy. My point being is that in a few weeks the guy's attempted point is not going to mean shit. He is saying media is trying to make things worse than they really are and in two to three weeks the media will not be needed to make the point if projections hold true.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

  11. Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

    fuck Charlie Kirk. I loved him in the movie "Mask", though

    Agree hospital scenes mean nothing when their is a death counter on the web that everyone has access too. When it reaches 60K by some projects in mid April all these fucks are going turn into peppers themselves.

  12. 6 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

    Way too early, but beware of championing Cuomo in this crisis. There is a hospital shortage in New York and Cuomo played a role in that shortage. Second, NY is further progressed that many states, but woefully unprepared compared to other states, including California. Third, he uses a lot of the same rhetoric, e.g., "I did that . . .," as Trumpy. I hope he solves the problem of New York State, but he is not the cure for what ails the nation. 

    As for the worst governor - is there any need to look past Florida's political response to COVID-19? The Spring Break super-spreaders alone are a disgrace. 

    As far as crises handling goes (i.e. having plan to keep us safe at home or recovery from the financial crisis):

    Bush or Obama >>>>>>> Cuomo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump

     

    P.S. Bush wars aside he did put a structure into place in which agencies shared information and kept us from experiencing other major terrorist attacks. The recover lasted what 10 years?

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    Satisfactory - Doing the best he can with limited resources.

    I did not expect votes for this one. I expected all Trumpkins to go with excellent so I have to assume these are reasonable people. So the key must be Best He Can or these folks expected less from Hillary. I believe Hillary would have been just as big of a fuck up. She reminds me of the election character hiding her test so no one can cheat. She would have been sharing little useful info instead of stupid info.

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  14. 2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    I don't get the obsession with the DT thread.  It's a fucking message board, people.  Not the sole source of information.

    Many links that are now on my bookmark bar came from DT. I need it less and less by the day. I read it because like for many here this place is a vice.

  15. Just now, Captainant said:

    Yeah, and refusing to invoke the defense production act - something only the president can do by law - has a fucking material impact on the availability of supplies. 

    I can come and read about that here. Also, turn on CNN or MSNBC and it is mentioned every 3 seconds. Turn on Fox and you will never hear about it. People on Fox no longer come to this board because they have zero arguments to make in defense of the president.

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