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Posts posted by pyrohornIII
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The biography of Jayne Mansfield done by her daughter Mariska Hagerty is good. I had watched JM in The Wayward Bus and enjoyed it, so gravitated to the doc. It's always interesting how many very talented and intelligent women were keyholed into their personas by the men in Hollywood and NYC. Hedy Lamarr always stood out, but also Monroe and now Mansfield. How frustrating it must have been for them to be seen only for their body or looks.
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Standing up, throwing down.
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7 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:
He makes it so fucking easy for an opposition party to capitalize. It's a shame we don't have one.
6 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:It's also a shame that we don't have an independent media. It's all under the thumb of rich elites.
Trump should be getting dragged every day. By every outlet. But that doesn't happen. They've been bought out. Trump fucked up again? Trump lied again? Just dangle a shiny object in front of the masses. They'll forget.
There is a correlation between these two.
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I would think kids who can command NIL type money are just as much looking to land somewhere that has the staff and facilities to develop them into high draft choices. It's a two part exam, and I don't see Sanders as having the chops or staff to pass the second part, even if CU had funds to match UT and other NIL leaders.
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Not to derail the thread, but who exactly are the State Police? What jurisdiction do they serve and how much power do they hold? I sure have been seeing a lot of cars and trucks lately marked as police but with no indication of what city they serve. Might be better in the ICE thread. But this is one of the trucks sent to respond in Kerr Co.
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6 hours ago, wood said:
Re: that CBS video, I'd love to watch it. You got a link?
Re: the Counselors, my kid, the middle class son of a teacher and a firefighter, was a camp counselor at Camp Longhorn when he was 16 -18. Part of the appeal was getting to be at a camp we couldn't afford to send him to at the time. He had never been to any camp other than Baylor's fucked up, shitty hoops camp, so he had no experience and his training was on the job. He worked his ass off, learned a lot, and had a blast, but at least at first, he had no training at all other than the sexual conduct training, some videos, and then a meeting for a few hours just before 'active duty'. He was working under a more experienced, older camp counselor who he reported to.
Sorry, I have searched CBS News several times now with no luck. It was on the revolving one that comes through the internet several times a day, not of the actual airwaves or like CBS morning or evening news.
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2 hours ago, C-Man said:
Mystic is going to get sued into Bolivia and will not exist moving forward. Yes, they should've been more prepared considering they were ultimately responsible for 750 or so young women aged 8-18 or so. It does not change the fact that there apparently was not a well-oiled early flood alert system in place for Kerr County. That's on them and also to the state leadership. But Mystic will pay the ultimate price because you can't sue City Hall and all that. El Paso, Uvalde, Mystic -- ain't nothin' gonna change until enough people get fed up and vote these no-talent assclowns out of office. I hope I live to see that day.
Amidst all of this sometimes I have to stop and think about those poor teens who were acting as counselors at Mystic and the nightmares and guilt they are going to carry forever. And while I do imagine they come from privileged and affluent backgrounds, still to be placed in a position of life or death for people who trust them is not a place to put those kids. There are a thousand ways that could have been different, but there is no reason for a camp that charges that much would not have a trained adult assigned to those cabins. To have to live with the questions about whether you did something wrong, or missed some announcement, or ignored some part of a lecture on emergency response is a lot to ask those kids. Those who survived, that is.
2 hours ago, bolverk said:Yeah, I've read that same stuff, but I haven't seen it picked up by any mainstream news outlet yet. Instead, it's been couched as "they weren't able to secure a grant" or somesuch.
I saw a segment on CBS online Tuesday which called out the commissioner's court hard. They had quotes from Buster and his picture, explaining how he has since passed. But there was no doubt they had done their research and were casting blame on that group. I have also seen other media reports that stop just short of accusing, but lead the viewer to answer the hanging questions. Unfortunately, that just isn't enough for lots of people. They have no critical thought process.
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14 hours ago, TreatyOak said:
Thanks for being a First Responder. Perhaps our disagreement is over semantics, but IMHO, any school, club, organization, camp, etc., that takes care of large numbers of people should have their own plan for evacuation. If experts can evaluate and correct it, all the better, but surely any plan is better than no plan. As we all know from the The Station night club fire in Rhode Island, disaster happens in seconds. Love to hear your thoughts.
Every school in our county has an emergency response plan that covers pretty much any potential situation from fire, planes crashing into bldgs, WMDs, active shooters and even nuclear accidents. Each school has the same outline for their plan. Once the outline is laid out, then each plan is customized for each school system. For example: layouts of buildings, who is responding from where, how long it will take, etc. This way if their is ever a need for the plan, each responding group will know exactly where to look for pertinent info on just about anything. Saves time and confusion. I can imagine going to a school for a fire and the section for where to shut off electrical power is buried in some obscure bldg description section. So yes, each camp should have a plan that is customized to them, but also follows a standard layout and format, much like an MSDS sheet.
9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:I can actually buy the notion that disaster response should be primarily a state activity. That makes a certain amount of good sense.
But, we've had FEMA for who knows how long and many/most states have abdicated their disaster response functions.
Like tariffs, or the notion of incentivizing domestic manufacturing, I could get on board with "we're gonna devolve FEMA's responsibilities back on the states where they belong." But that needs to take place over like 10 years, maybe 20.
Texas is so large that it is quite possible a big catastrophe can strike and the rest of the state can muster what it needs to deal with the response. To what effectiveness I can't guess. But smaller states can get hit and the whole state is now limping along and needs neighbors to come help in times of needs. That state's emergency reserves could have been wiped out or made inaccessible, while their neighbors can get to their own supply, leaving the challenge of transporting it to the areas of need as the biggest impediment. Every town has a fire/EMS department, even the really small ones. And they can handle the day to day, but they can't handle the big ones alone. That is where the idea of other states stepping up through FEMA makes sense. How many Texas firefighters went to California the last go around of wildfires? Hell, we even had Mexico come in and help us in Kerrville and they aren't even a state.
WIthout FEMA the smaller and less populated states are at real risk, especially with extreme weather becoming the norm instead of the outlier.
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On 7/7/2025 at 1:38 PM, TreatyOak said:
I agree with these posts 100% that the camp is greatly to blame. The county bears plenty responsibility, but when your business is entrusted with the lives of hundreds of children and teens, you have better have a fucking good system in place to anticipate danger and protect lives. The Hill Country is well know to have a high level of flash floods. They should have been monitoring all the news and the 1PM Thursday weather warning should have been enough for them to take action. Perhaps they could have had their OWN audio warning system and escape procedures in place. And if, as people are claiming, they didn't get any warnings due to the bad cell service, that is 100% on them. Like I wrote about last summer, my friend's daughter's camp was evacuated a day in advance of a storm.
Yes, from what I have read the camps were responsible for having their own plans. That's ridiculous, because it's akin to each student writing their own test questions. How do you judge the strength of a plan without a standard to hold it to? Just more passing responsibility along.
On 7/7/2025 at 8:24 PM, Chopper said:This was mentioned in part upthread, so credit to that person
https://www.hccommunityjournal.com/article_fd3f3e9c-3eb8-11ef-9bb2-b32dd8fc6b3d.html
Having served as a first responder in rural Texas I have to say the radio communications suck in most counties, particularly ones with hills or mountains. Then add in that the government about 20 years ago sold off a huge chunk of bandwidth of our airwaves to private vendors like cell phone companies. That forced departments to start moving away from analog radios to digital systems, which are way more expensive. So I really can't fault them for going that route. Where I can fault them is for not upgrading their flood warning system earlier when they had the chance for Obama money.
On 7/8/2025 at 6:09 AM, Blotto said:The Internet broke this country. "Oh, I see you are interested in loony f'n conspiracy theories ....let me serve you hundreds more so you click and make me rich"
I disagee, stupidity and complacency broke it. The internet sped it up.
22 hours ago, South Austin said:This needs to be a front-page article. I mean, what the ever living fuck? A city manager going on a run during a flash flood warning?
Yep, you'd think he'd tell himself first thing to call the guy in charge of monitoring to get some idea on what's headed their way?
11 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:I'm curious about how this site makes money (besides donations). Does post count ratchet the $?
If so, it seems to me that a consolidated DT/CR would be ideal. Call it "Lord Of The Flies".
Please no. I avoid DT like I avoid FB these days. To go in there does me no good.
8 hours ago, Da Fino said:The idiots at texags are pissed that this is being politicized. I haven’t seen many people politicizing this issue as much as it should be. I’m honestly shocked that this and the Epstein dismissal aren’t being politicized more than they are.
To me this makes me think of roaches scrurrying about in the middle of the night when the kitchen light comes on. Can hear them screaming "Politicization! Politicization!" Or however the fuck you spell it.
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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:
Didn't see this mentioned, but some minor Houston official made some scandalous and deeply offensive remarks on a TikTok (of course) about this disaster.
She made some valid points that have been acknowledged here, that if these girls were darker there would probably be less of an uproar and far fewer consequences.
In comments on her post, there was the following:
I read somewhere yesterday that she was on a committee under the Whitmire regime in Houston on Food Insecurity. She has been removed from that committee because of her comments.
3 hours ago, South Austin said:My wife and I were privately talking about that yesterday. There might be some truth to it. But I recall just as much, if not more, heartbreak and outrage over the Robb Elementary shooting in Uvalde, where most of the victims were Hispanic. And I think the fact that there were no real consequences from that school shooting had little to do with the demographic of the victims, and more because as a nation we've demonstrated time and again that we don't care enough about dead kids to seriously consider halfway reasonable gun regulations.
The difference to me between the events is the gun lobby. It keeps gun regulation at bay.
2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:Yeah. I don't want to veer too far into the macabre, but I'm curious -- would Abbott's tort reform come into play here?
I would guess that it will when it comes to the locals and state officials. Same as tort protected the Board of Regents and everyone after the Bonfire tragedy.
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:It's not that they're white, although it doesn't hurt. It's that they're wealthy, they're influential, and they have on speed dial everyone who matters in Austin and DC. I don't think there will even be a need for lawsuits, they'll just fastforward to Abbott convening a special session to cut each of those families a $10M check courtesy of John Q Taxpayer.
40 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:I gotta go with Hagbard on this. These people are affluent and their way of life is bouyed by a system that MAGA makes possible. They will choose the money every time. It is all they know. It is their whole valuation system for living.
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Newsweek has a decent article if you want to fight your way through the ads.
https://www.newsweek.com/flash-flood-alley-has-history-deadly-camp-floods-meteorologist-2095170
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If you are looking for a very good movie about love, life, kids, parenting and interactions with assholes in your life, I suggest When Life Gives You Tangerines.
It is Korean, and dubbed, and the dubbing is actually pretty good. It's definitely a series to watch with your spouse and hopefully family. There are parts it gets real dusty.
I can't find a way to give you a trailer in English dubbing, but here's one with english subtitles. I've always enjoyed UI (who plays several characters). Gives you a pretty good sense of South Korea from the rural parts all the way into Seoul.
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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
I was on the board at Mo for several years, including when Tim was camp director (he left for a while, then we brought him back as president).
We’d experienced minor (but still scary) flooding in the past, and there have also been fires in the area.
As a board, we spent some time - not a lot, it didn’t take a lot - on disaster planning. What do we do if the ranch gets cut off by a fire? What do we do if there’s a flood? Even “what do we do if there’s a medical emergency here in the sticks?” BTW, we signed a contract with a medical evacuation chopper service for the last one. It’s saved at least one life from what I understand.
And Tim is damned good at what he does, he’s a real pro. So, yeah, there are ways to do disaster planning at such facilities right. There’s no way to be ready for everything, but you need to have a good team and empower them to take action.I went to MO several times in the mid 70s. Brisket can correct me, but I remember it being a retreat for Marathon Oil? Some oil company or another. It was a great camp compared to the scout camps I attended. They have this old water slide there that was super fun. There's a video of it attached. But when we used it, there were no walls on either side. The pain in the ass was hauling that wooden luge thing back up, so the second year we brought some rope, a pulley and some barbell weights. We used that to pull the cart back up the track instead of lugging it. worked pretty well.
That was a really fun and clean camp. All presbyterian run, and they were even laxer than the methodists at that time. Always made sure I went along on those trips if i could.
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I would hope it would be the moms who get up in arms. I'm not keyed in to how MAGA dads perceive their daughters now, given this whole push towards traditional wives, mothers, homemakers. It seems that if they won't stand up for their daughers' health care and all the other things 2025 is trying to push on society, do they value their daughters as much as their sons? I mean we haven't seen any stand up for the victims in Santa Fe and other school shootings. It's nearly like they are ok with having their daughters become sacrifices.
But then we are talking a different level of MAGA here. These folks aren't living in trailers and probably have a pretty solid education. Most I bet have some deep roots in different fraternities. Watching the unfolding of things will be interesting indeed when it comes to those parents.
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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:I don't see NWS being at fault hardly at all, even with the cuts, they warned of "life-threatening flooding" about an hour before it took place.
Seems like everything downstream of NWS and local is at major fault for not seeing that NWS' message was distributed where it mattered and not reacting with sufficient urgency.
10 minutes ago, troph said:How is NWS at fault? They issued a warning 2-3 hours in advance? Weather models as early as Wednesday showed 15 inches or more in the San Antonio / Austin / Hill Country corridor? Everyone had been tracking a tropical storm remnant through Mexico into south Texas and the hill country?
Y'all are both (fuck now it's ALL of you) right. The NWS and meteorologists did their jobs. I misstated myself. What I meant to say that NWS being short staffed could have been part of the problem. But I have also seen that being short staffed alluded to for being maybe under estimating the magnitude of the event? And all the talk about the 100 year events is based on data and analysis by the NWS and watershed authorities (corp of engineers, etc). So defunding them, cutting staff could have been part of the initial problem. Not defending myself, it was an error.
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8 hours ago, Woland said:
I’m trying not to assign blame, but I think we can look at three points in time and draw a solid conclusion.
Point 1: 1900 Galveston Hurricane
Poor 2: 2025 Hill Country Floods
Point 3: The future, when science and modern communication technology provide ample warning and there is no loss of life.
My conclusion? Unless things change soon, we will be moving from Point 2 backwards to Point 1 rather than forward to Point 3.But isn't that part of the Great we are in such a hurry to recapture?
2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:I'm still on this bandwagon. While NWS is at fault, they don't have near the responsiblity in all this that the county does. I am betting there will be lawsuits that flesh that out. Unfortunately so many of these officials are protected from personal loss due to tort reform, leaving them with something akin to qualified immunity. While it was put into place to protect sincere good samaritans, it's been bastardized to protect those who make shitty decisions about service to people based on re-election bids.
I live in a community that used to have a wide variety of amenities and services. Over the past two decades I have watched the bulk of those disappear. The move was to first underfund the amenities and let them fall into such disrepair people could not use them. Next obvious step was to do away with them all together, because no one is using them anymore, right? And in doing so they could keep their maintenance fees low and everything went into the golf course and landing strip. We have seen the same thing in our state govt. And trump is doing the same with his dumbass DOGE stuff. Musk is gone, but you don't see Trump scrambling to repair all the damage he did. Nope. And too many sit there and cheer this on. They have made the taxpayers of Kerrville or wherever seem like logical people when they refuse to pay for things of public safety.
What they don't see is how many of their businesses rely on the tourist/camp visitors who will now be gunshy about coming to their county and choose to spend that money in a place that doesn't have such a deadly reputation.
But in the end, those county commissioners are at fault here. They should have done better.
1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:Could someone also remind me how many billions of dollars Texas taxpayers are on the hook for to bail out energy companies in the wake of the 2021 winter storm? Perhaps a little bit of that money would've been useful for disaster prevention, which I hear is prohibitively expensive. Although obviously, a lower bailout would affect the energy industry's profits.
It's part of your energy bill every month. I know mine is at least $50 more every month than before.
Something else I bet happens. Trump miraculously finds some FEMA money for Texas, due to the fact that if Texas goes blue, so does the rest of the country, electorally. No FEMA for this will be huge...and we haven't even gotten into hurricane season properly yet.
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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:
My main concern is that the Lasker information is, apparently, true.
So, that's a bit of a problem for Mamdani.
A separate issue is NYT reporting it while calling Lasker an academic opposed to affirmative action. While that is literally true, it's a pretty horrendous minimization of him.
Some other fun tidbits. Lasker is a PhD candidate at Tceh, but that is one well-hidden fact. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-l-b84457304?trk=people-guest_people_search-card
He's also speaking at a "Natalist" conference held on the UT campus at the ATT Conference Center. ATT apparently is just a hotel that anyone can book for just about anything but geezus. "Natalists" are white supremacist eugenicists.
Apparently Austin is a hub for the Natalist movement:
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March 28–29, 2025 — The second iteration took place at UT Austin’s AT&T Conference Center and the Bob Bullock Texas History Museum natalism.org+5theguardian.com+5kut.org+5.
I'd have to imagine they would pay the Bullock to hold it there. but then I am sure they have some deep pockets behind them to rent such places to give them the appearance of being more established than they are. Bullock's gotta be turning over in his grave, right?
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12 minutes ago, wood said:
Fucking hell. From almost nothing to above the roadway in less than 40 minutes, on a bridge that looks 30-40' high.
I told my wife earlier that -esp with this being July 4th weekend - there were probably a whole lot of campers missing that aren't even being counted yet as 'missing', so I don't think they even have a good idea yet how many are actually missing. Then we saw a video at an RV park where there had been 28 RVs parked. They all got washed away. Unknown how many people made it out. Many of them - sometimes whole families - got washed downstream even with people trying their best to rescue them. And that's at an RV park. Now think of all the people who just roll up in their car and pitch a tent.
I'm sure we haven't even come close to learning the true extent of this horrific disaster.Yes, I was talking to a friend who lives in Kerrville. She said all the campgrounds were loaded. Lots of unknowns.
I was surprised we didn't see more housing debris or tents piling up at that bridge.
That is a huge watershed between Hunt and Canyon Lake. It's going to ring up some astronomical damages. Hopefully the folks downstream got better warning in a more timely effort.
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3 hours ago, Chopper said:
Seems clear to me there should have been an important role for the state and county or city. At the very least there needs to be a way to ensure that emergency alerts get filtered to the people in the county, and that businesses have an effective and viable evac plan. Both the state of Texas and the county have mismanaged their alert systems. The camp probably should not have been allowed to legally operate, especially with 1,000 kids and apparently completely mismanaged and/or relying on counselors who are very young and inexperienced themselves.
3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:how do you verify everyone on the river saw the alert, on every flash flood alert ?
then what ?
we're talking about a state govt that won't mandate vaccines but they need to go around and make sure you saw the flash flood alert. the current state and federal are very much against these alerts, they say it promotes global warming lies !!!!!
less weather reports = less global warming bs
Counties and school districts and rural hospital districts have been asked to do more and more with less and less. This is a result of our republicans continuing to reduce property taxes to insure re-relection. Schools, roads, hospitals, county services are all expected to pick up the slack. It's rampant. Not just schools, emergency response, distaster preparedness, but it includes things like election expenses too that are accrued while they dream up new ways to suppress votes. Year after year the strain has been pushed onto rural counties and they keep losing good election administrators due to just being fucking tired of the bullshit. I can imagine the same thing for disaster preparedness. And so much of that is heaped onto volunteers. It's fucking insane. And on top of that, they keep taking more and more control from local governments. My county judge, a republican, actually went to Austin to testify why eliminating county wide voting was insane. He's very pissed that Austin keeps grabbing more power and leaving his commissioner's court pushing the shit cart at the end of the parade.
You'd think all these commissioners who have to deal with this regularly would stand up and throw down. But they won't. They throw half ass measures at things with complete certainty there will never be a school shooting or train derailment that poisons a whole town. At least not in their county. It is just madness. Much like driving and X amount of fatalities each year is normalized. We are normalized to it, and even though so many rural Texans will play the lottery every day, assured their day is coming, they can't see the odds of catastrophe are much more likely. Especially now with reduced funding going into research and regulation.
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3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:
https://legacy.co.kerr.tx.us/commcrt/minutes/ I imagine that link is pretty busy right now.
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7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:
So the county commissioners in 2016 debated putting in sirens and said nah?
Tommy Boy retired as commissioner in 2017. Not sure how the potential for disaster was addressed, but I imagine there will be someone combing through the Comm. Court minutes to piece it together.
https://www.hccommunityjournal.com/community_life/article_8db919ae-d772-11e6-8de2-db22ecc8f224.html
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Each county in Texas can opt into a reverse 911 program. This is an alert system that sends warnings throughout the county according to addresses. But the problem is those Reverse 911 systems are linked solely to landlines.
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Kerr County currently uses a system called CodeRed, which operates like Reverse 911.
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However, it only reaches registered landlines; cell phones and VOIP numbers must be manually signed up through the county portal people.com+8kerrvilletx.gov+8reddit.com+8.
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That means standard cellphones were not automatically notified, unless someone had beforehand opted in.
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Camp Mystic probably did have at least one operational landline, since reverse 911 focuses on those.
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But if that landline was not registered in the county’s system—or was affected by power/water outages—it likely didn’t relay any alert.
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If Camp Mystic had a landline—but it wasn’t registered or was down—they would have missed any alert.
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Overall, this tragedy shines a glaring spotlight on the limitations and fragility of the current system—and the urgent need for more robust, multi-channel emergency alerts.
On top of that, how many remember in 2018 when the government set us a Wireless Alert System? I assume that has also been defunded, since it's last one was in 2023. I assume they could tailor WEA for target areas.
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October 3, 2018 was the first-ever Presidential Alert test sent to nearly every smartphone in the U.S., triggered under FEMA’s IPAWS system. Users couldn’t opt out, and it blared a loud tone with a test message en.wikipedia.org+11en.wikipedia.org+11cbsnews.com+11en.wikipedia.org+2time.com+2weather.gov+2.
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The most recent nationwide test occurred on October 4, 2023, involving both the Emergency Alert System (EAS) for radios/TV and the Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) for cellphones emergencyalertsystem.fandom.com+9umpdnews.umd.edu+9cityoflaurel.org+9.
So yes—and going forward, there are scheduled WEA tests via national broadcast networks.
I am going to assume CodeRed is a cheaper alternative to Reverse 911 and the county didn't spend much money getting people to opt in.
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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:
Every preventable tragedy is partly caused by a pervasive culture among political and media figures that, in the past, stigmatized discussing exactly what should be discussed, that stigmatized advocating exactly what should be advocated, and that stigmatized spending political capital exactly when and on exactly what political capital should be spent.
Every single person who participates in "This is not the time and place" culture is standing in the way of saving lives in the future. I hope we remember that when (not if) this happens again.
Agreed. Same can be said for Uvalde? Sutherland Springs? Santa Fe? But there is a faction that continues to deny that guns kill people, and that our climate isn't affected by humans.
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Time for another CSPD and ATM athletics BBQ. Last one was what? 10 years ago?