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afl finals 2023

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last 2 matches of the season tonight

carlton v. collingwood just bounced down

live right now on fs2

these 2 sides have played in 6 grand finals, carlton winning 5

this is one of the giant derbies in footy - very much on par with Texas 0u or Cowboys Steelers

they last played in a final in '88

Carlton have to win to *guarantee* they make the playoffs

Collingwood needs to win to gain the double chance

Carlton could still lose and get in the tournament depending on the final percentage from 2 other results

Footscray Western Bulldogs are in the 4th quarter ahead of Hawthorn by 10 but need to win by ~50

St. Kilda v. Sydney bounce down in an hour but the Saints would have to win by 70 or 80 and Carlton would have to lose by 70 or 80 to make up the current 9% difference

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