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  1. 17 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    No one wrote that, it was a stupid fucking poster on a livestreem that asked the question and said diversity, and now we've delved down this fucking rabbit hole based on something someone heard about Ferris Buellar at 31 fucking flavors last night. This was the original quote that got this started, I know becuase I went back 5 pages and did a control F for fucking Diversity.

    So now we've gone from talking about diversity, and if it's an issue, to blaming some phanton 995er for writing and legitimizing it, when it was a stupid fucking knob on a livestream the likely equivalent of Spider2yBanana and now the rest of us are dealing with this pile of horseshit. I've seen 5 year olds fuck up a game of telephone less than this shit, and there's a goddamn digital fucking record here. 

    This is about as classic Surly as it gets, and I hate every single one of you. 

    I took critical race theory in law school and am down to continue this conversation until Thursday. 

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  2. Baton Rouge is a majority black city (53.4% black per 2020 census) but you wouldn't know that sticking to the area around the LSU campus. The town is very segregated. The football players and other athletes interact a lot with girls from Southern U (which is also in BR). I'd bet the black population at LSU is probably similar to UT though, at least % wise (bear in mind that UT is twice the size of LSU, and Austin like like 4x the size of BR). I do not care for Baton Rouge whatsoever, having lived there for five years and gone to high school on the LSU campus, but the black football players are pretty damn comfy there.  I also do not think Austin wins a "diversity" argument against Baton Rouge. Austin is 6.9% black.

    That all being said, I highly doubt that is determinative of him going there at all. It's like the guy asking Bobby Burton on the IT Livestream if the A&M journalism school thing would affect A&M's ability to recruit black players. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

    Mississippi State hasn’t had 50,000 undergraduates every year for decades, or oil money, or proximity to major in-state metro areas, or [insert everything else about living in Texas vs. Mississippi].

    Aggy has one of the biggest alumni bases in the country, a ton of money, and is more or less the favored school for most Houston area and East Texas people.  And unlike other underachievers on paper like Cal or UCLA, aggy actually cares desperately about sports and winning at football in particular.

    It should be almost impossible for them to have accomplished so little in sports, but that’s where the “weird” part comes into play.  Doing dumb shit with supreme confidence and inevitably having it all backfire spectacularly is part of their culture.  

    I guess. Anecdotal but I've lived on the East Coast for 12 years now and most people I deal with know UT and couldn't tell you where A&M is.

  4. 2 hours ago, Getafix said:

     

    Hoo, boy.

    So, ESPN has a list of CFB's biggest underachievers.

    We are in Tier II: CFP no-shows.  Also in that tier are USC and Miami. Not great, Bob, but "CFP no-show" doesn't sound like the worst slam. 

    Topping the list, second year in a row?  Your Texas A&M Aggies.

     

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    Ranking college football's biggest underachievers

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    Adam Rittenberg, ESPN Senior Writer

     

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    Ranking college football's biggest underachievers

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    Adam Rittenberg, ESPN Senior Writer
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    Retaining the No. 1 spot in college football is normally a great thing.

    Not in these rankings. And not for Texas A&M.

    No team ever wants to be No. 1 in college football's underachiever tiers, the annual preseason exercise examining the programs that do the least with the most. Keeping the top spot is especially painful, but it has happened with the Aggies.

    Georgia was the inspiration for the initial rankings. Coach Kirby Smart's team proceeded to win it all in 2021 and repeated last year, cementing itself as college football's preeminent program.

    Texas A&M's placement atop last year's rankings came with the caveat: Look at Georgia! Just be like Georgia! The Aggies had signed the nation's No. 1 recruiting class, headlined by four defensive line recruits rated in ESPN's top 7 nationally, several standout perimeter players and Conner Weigman, ESPN's No. 27 overall prospect. Coach Jimbo Fisher had enough to challenge in the SEC West and build on an 8-4 season.

    Instead, the Aggies regressed and went 5-7, logging their first losing record since 2008 and Fisher's first full losing season as a head coach (he left 5-6 Florida State for Texas A&M in 2017 and the Seminoles went on to finish 7-6). There's no choice but to leave Texas A&M right at the top.

    The list includes other repeat selections, as certain programs, despite clear advantages, continue to spin their wheels or backslide. The objective is to identify programs that aren't capitalizing on long-term edges such as history, location, fan/booster base and financial resources, and new ones such as NIL clout and media rights revenue.

    Much like the first two versions, I've divided teams into six different tiers. Unlike Georgia and Texas A&M, not every team that appears is a realistic national championship contender. Some shouldn't expect to be in the conference title mix very often. But all should be expecting and achieving more.

    To maintain consistency, teams are evaluated primarily on the past 20 seasons (2003 to 2022) with extra emphasis on the last 5 to 7. Teams that have made the College Football Playoff are exempt -- TCU wouldn't appear anyway, but the Horned Frogs are officially clear -- as are national champions from the past 15 seasons (2008 to 2022).


    Tier I: Aggies keep top spot

    Texas A&M: After the 2020 season, Texas A&M appeared to be on its way under Fisher. The Aggies had navigated an SEC-only schedule to record their first AP top-5 finish since 2012. Financial clout has never been the issue in Aggieland, and few programs were better positioned for the NIL era.

    Instead, Texas A&M went 13-11 overall and 6-10 in SEC play over the past two seasons. Despite one of the nation's strongest NIL collectives and an excellent recruiting location less than two hours from Houston in southeast Texas, the Aggies haven't translated success to the field. Last season, they dropped a Week 2 home game to Appalachian State and endured a five-game losing streak before finishing with an upset over LSU.


    Fisher might have been fired if not for a very A&M-like contract that makes a change financially prohibitive for the immediate future. Instead, he fired offensive coordinator Darrell Dickey and brought in Bobby Petrino. While the move indicates Fisher will take a less hands-on role with the unit, it sets up a potentially combustible combination of two headstrong coaches who have built their reputations on calling offensive plays and not being second-guessed (at least internally).

    Texas A&M has no national titles since 1939, no conference titles since 1998, no BCS championship or CFP appearances and no consecutive AP top-10 finishes since a streak of three straight from 1992 to 1994.

    Maybe 2023 is the season for a Texas A&M breakthrough. The defense is undeniably talented, especially up front. If the offense can reach the 30-point mark more often -- it happened just twice last season -- and Weigman takes off under Petrino, the Aggies could make a push in the SEC West, where Alabama seems a bit shaky and LSU is in the second year of a new regime.

    "I still think they're a ticking time bomb, but if they win early, and they've got an easy schedule to start, it sets up," an SEC West assistant coach said. "They didn't have quarterback play last year, but Weigman kept coming along, and I thought he was a good player at the end of the year. Did [Fisher] right the ship? If he did, they're going to be good."

    Texas A&M's deep-pocketed boosters have and will continue to step up financially. While most schools wouldn't entertain firing Fisher any time soon, given the guaranteed money on his contract (around $77 million), Texas A&M can spend its way out of trouble. There are also two seemingly A-list coaching candidates within the state in TCU's Sonny Dykes and UTSA's Jeff Traylor.

    The urgency in Aggieland couldn't be any higher for a program that has failed to reach its potential for 30 years.

    Tier II: CFP no-shows

    USC: The Trojans are close to removing themselves from this tier, but their futility during the CFP era has stood out. A program that claims 11 national championships and eight Heisman Trophy winners, including quarterback Caleb Williams last season, has not won college football's biggest prize since 2004. Coach Lincoln Riley nearly guided the Trojans to their first CFP appearance in his first season before a deflating loss to Utah in the Pac-12 championship game. USC has one more year of Williams (barring injury) and one more year in the Pac-12 before a seismic move to the Big Ten. History and location have always favored USC, and the program is finally stepping up financially in areas such as facilities and NIL. Athletic director Mike Bohn's messy departure adds to a period of administrative turbulence USC must fix with his replacement. But the team is gathering top-tier talent, both through recruiting and especially the transfer portal. USC's lukewarm vibe during the latter part of coach Clay Helton's tenure, which resembled the pre-Pete Carroll era, has vanished under Riley. But the team needs to make its CFP debut soon.

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    Texas: Since former Texas quarterback Sam Ehlinger proclaimed the program was back after a 2019 Sugar Bowl win over Georgia, the Longhorns are 28-20, just ahead of Army and Toledo in overall win percentage (46th nationally). During the same span, Baylor and Kansas State have won the Big 12, while TCU made the CFP with a first-year coach (Dykes) and a team that had gone 5-7 the previous season. Big 12 coaches considered Texas to be the league's most talented team in 2022. Although the Longhorns pushed Alabama in Week 2 and walloped Oklahoma 49-0, they also dropped five games by seven points or fewer and put up just 10 points at home against TCU. The Texas brand hasn't matched the on-field product for a very long time, and the behind-the-scenes politics with a large and influential booster base adds to the challenge. But coach Steve Sarkisian once again has the Big 12's best roster, and a league title -- and possible CFP appearance -- seems essential before jumping to the SEC. Texas has had just one national title since 1970 and only two conference titles since 1996.


    Miami: The past 20 years have been especially sobering for the U. Miami is 152-99 overall with no conference titles since claiming a shared Big East crown in 2003. The CFP era hasn't brought much more of note, as the Hurricanes have no AP top-10 finishes and just three top 25-finishes since 2009. Miami has an incredible championship history and a location near many high-level recruits. The school lacks the massive fan/donor base as others on this list, though, and only recently started to make the necessary investments under coach Mario Cristobal. But Cristobal's first season flopped, as the team went 5-7 with five blowout losses, and the staff largely turned over in the winter. Cristobal will have time to course-correct. He's an elite and tireless recruiter, and Miami has become a notable NIL player, although the recent news around booster John Ruiz is concerning. A bigger concern is Miami has gone through several coaches with ties to the school and/or city and not resembled a consistent national contender.

     

     

    I will never understand why "What if Mississippi State was weirder but had more money" is considered a sleeping giant, but you'll never see me complain when they get made fun of for wasting their money. 

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  5. I feel like y'all are going way too far into Nahlin here. Gerry hasn't moved, and he's not the stubborn catty bitch that Nahlin can sometimes be. If the LSU guys were more confident, then they'd all be pouring in from the whole industry because the LSU guys would be telling others. 

     

    That said, if @Wulaw Horn is who I think he is then he probably knows more than me. 

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  6. 3 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:



    I totally understand what you're saying, and YouTube is probably a hard nut to crack, but even Destiny had zero followers at one point in time.  Same is true of MrBeast and all the rest of them.  Rome wasn't built in a day, as they say.  Now, understandably, even with the great reach of the University of Texas and its rabid sports followers, the potential market for Orangebloods and Rod Babers is going to be capped at a much smaller size than that of MrBeast or Destiny, since their potential markets are really the entire world, but it's all about building streams of income.



     

    I clicked on the link (neg away) because they tweeted that Liucci was gonna be on there, and Liucci couldn't figure out how to put his camera right side up, so it was going well. 

     

    Liucci also said that the Texas and A&M would "split" Colin Simmons and Kobe Black when I was listening. 

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  7. 20 hours ago, texifornia said:

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    One of the many internet things that is burned into my brain for the rest of time is Ryan Brauninger posting some bullshit about Malik Jefferson possibly flipping before signing day because he said something like "good for them" w/r/t the hiring of John Chavis, and some Aggie idiot responding "flip a sip is my favorite game."

    Otaro Alaka is the only straight flip they've had in like, 10 years, right?

  8. 7 hours ago, Deej said:

    I didn't hate them until all the lies they threw out there when they left for the SEC. Couldn't even just make the move and say they felt it was just a better situation for them. 

    Instead, they pointed the finger at us on their way out the door and threw out a bunch of bullshit about us. 

    Fuck them. 

    This. I was in school from '08-'12 and didn't care about them until my senior year when they just wouldn't shut the fuck up. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

    There is a thread on IT. Apparently the On3 rankings overvalue physical characteristics, i.e. height, weight, hand size, vertical, arm length of prospects compared to where players with similar physical attributes were drafted. The On3 personnel stupidly think they are going to determine the NFL draft instead of how these kids will project and perform at the college level. It makes watching tape and HS production meaningless.

    There is a thread on IT trashing their own rankings?

     

    Edit: they do indeed, at least Nahlin is posting about "how On3 operates." 

  10. 1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

    @RollingPresidential is simply being too binary in his position on “academics” in recruiting. There’s a gap between NW and Stanford and a guy weighting Texas or UF or UNC or Michigan higher than shitholes like LSU or Auburn. They could be looking at LSU, Auburn and Texas and ultimately decide that Texas is the best fit because of the academics. They don’t have to be exclusively looking at Stanford and Rice to be concerned about their future degree’s value. 

    I am vividly remembering being in my high school IB physics class at U-High (known on this board as University Lab, the high school that is on the LSU campus), getting a bad grade on a test, and saying something like "If I don't fix my grades in this class I might end up at LSU." My classmates, 80% of which were matriculating to LSU, were very offended. I'm now a lawyer and my undergrad degree means jack shit, so bully for me I guess. 

    I think what you've said is reasonable, I just don't think it really tips things in our favor as much as we say it does or has overwhelmed other stuff in the past. For an ex-NFLer, as most of these guys think they will be, what does their undergrad degree even mean?

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  11. 21 hours ago, Poe It Up said:

    They’re recruiting better than I thought they would. Gerry said that if Kobe Black and Simmons aren’t committed by the end of July, then they may be more into aggy than Texas realized. Hard to believe. 

    Not saying I don't believe you, but where'd he say this?

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