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Armybrat

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  1. 14 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    Respectfully, I'm sure Al Capone's mom thought that her sweet boy was just being persecuted by that awful Eliot Ness and those dreadful revenuers.

    The point being is that you're not an objective witness.Ā  As someone who has more than one criminal in the family, the family is usually the last one to suspect and the very last one to believe.

    Rightly so--that's part of the point of family.

    Ā 

    There are two convicted criminals in my extended family, so I am under no such illusions.

  2. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    Seriously?Ā  Neither you nor I know what one of them did that time (for example) they saw a colleague beat the crap out of a suspect.Ā  Did they report it to command?Ā  Or did they look the other way?

    Come on.Ā  You know what path is VASTLY more likely.Ā  The "blue wall of silence" isn't something I made up on this board.

    I know my relatives, you don’t.

  3. That’s not the attitude the cops in my family have, nor have they ever said anything similar.

    There were fourĀ LEOs in my extended family.... two still on duty (one a highway patrolman in Nebraska, another a K9 officer in the Dallas area), one just retired after 35 years service in the Hill Country, and one is deceased (she committed suicide with her service pistol after being diagnosed with a debilitating disease that would have forced her medical retirement.

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    2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Ken Anderson lost his license.Ā  And who led the charge to make sure that happened?.......

    Members of the bar.Ā  IIRC, hundreds of attorneys signed correspondence to the bar demanding that a disciplinary proceeding be opened up (hell, I can't even recall -- I may have even been one of the signatories -- that was a while ago).Ā  Many attorneys volunteered time not just on Morton's exoneration case, but on Anderson's as well.

    That's a PERFECT example, and I'm very glad you brought it up.Ā  Not only did I not claim that there are no bad actors in any profession, I expressly acknowledged that fact -- EVERY profession has bad actors in it.Ā  The test is what is DONE about those bad guys.Ā  Ken Anderson -- absolutely a bad actor, no question.Ā  When his bad action came to light.....how did the profession respond?Ā  Well, we pretty much, with one voice, yelled for him to be drummed out of the profession, and to face criminal consequences as well Ā (he went to jail).

    You keep pointing to our profession (which, again, for the jillionth time, is FAR from perfect, both with respect to bad actors and how effective we are at drumming them out -- I would very much like to see us do even better) as a COMPARISON to how the police behave, and all you've succeeded in doing is highlighting the CONTRAST.

    And if law enforcement took a similar approach, I'd be thrilled.Ā  Seriously, I don't expect anyone to be perfect.Ā  It's a world fullĀ  of imperfect human beings.Ā  I simply expect them to honor the system and enforce the law, as opposed to openly DEFY it.Ā  Which is, I have concluded, obviously too much to ask.

    25 years late, correct?

    I hope and expect law enforcement to clean up its act too..... where it is warranted. But you are on record here as saying they are all corrupt.

    No, they are not.

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    44 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Please -- DO cite for us the examples of lawyer A violating the ethical rules such as would trigger the legal duty to report, and lawyer B not just failing to report it, but assisting lawyer A in covering up the violation?Ā  Because that would be the apt analogy.Ā  You've made the comparison.Ā  So please, cite the example.Ā  I've given you (and this board has given you) LOADS of examples of cops covering for their own.Ā  A couple of similar examples of lawyers covering for a crooked lawyer out of a similar "we back our brothers" approach would be very instructive.

    Ā 

    Ā 

    On 12/13/2019 at 8:56 PM, Brisketexan said:


    No, they’re not. They either do what he did, or they cover for him. Back the blue!

    See the original subject of this thread.

    Presume there are no good cops. It’s the safe assumption.

    Until you back off that last statement and the first one in your post #103,Ā I have no interest in your demands.Ā 
    But we can now assume there was no wrongdoing by the prosecuting lawyers involved in the Wilco Morton case?

  6. Beg pardon, Ā but how is the gun ownersĀ thread similar in any way to a thread about some rightwingnuts suppressing the 1st Amendment.Ā It is about gun hobbyists & the shooting sports, not controversial political topics.

    There are already gun control debate threads in theĀ CR.

    And I am not whining to anyone to move your thread, just said it belonged in the CR inĀ the first place.

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    Then you must have a problem with the Longhorns and Colt McCoy.

    as Diablo stated, it is probably impossible for every cop in a good sized department to know all his/her fellow officers, much less have a clue what they are all doing.

    we can say the same for the law profession.

    Edited to add:

    But it is interesting to see you think IĀ support crooked cops because I called you out on your absurd blanket statement I quoted earlier. Do you really think that way?

  8. 2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

    Why?

    Are you disagreeing with the conclusion that cops cover for one another, either through affirmative act or by omission?Ā  Or do you disagree with the conclusion that such covering renders them scum?

    The Devil answered very well for me:

    16 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

    My personal opinion of the profession in general aside (hint, it's not favorable), it's a big leap to assume that with as many cops as there are working in a metro department that they even know each other, much less what sort of people their co-workersĀ might actually be. I've got 500 "coworkers" in this building, all working for the same company. I know very few of them as a percentage of the whole and very few of those do I know even reasonably well and probably NONE really well. Taking your premise to a subject we're all familiar with it would be like assigning blame to the entire football team for the actions of one dumbass. Shit don't work that way in real life. Labels and fitting people into boxes is lazy.

    Ā 

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