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Posts posted by Al_4_ISU
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6 minutes ago, Sandman said:
As an OSU fan who lives in the OKC burbs, I'm not driving all the way to Stilly on a weeknight to watch the shit they've been running out there for years. I wouldn't even make it in time for tip off, anyway. But to make it even, I quit watching on TV, too.
I get it. I'm about as die hard of an ISU fan as there is, but during our 2-22 year I punched out completely.
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What's the point of that if you're going to have 4 conferences with multiple automatic bids? Wouldn't that just inherently result in straight seeding?
My assumption is that we wouldn't even really be determining conference champions any more. Just playing for the bids.
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We're going to be pushing 50 on Monday.
It was -23 in my old man's vehicle this past Tuesday.
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46 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:
But you did get a baby. Almost as nice, but way more expensive.
Well yeah, and that was because I jerked off in a cup 5 years later.
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Surprise 30th bday party for my wife. She was working at a brewery at the time, and had to work the night of her birthday, which happened to be a Saturday. I talked to her boss and asked her if she could get the night off after we got there, and her boss was down with it. So I got a party bus and invited a bunch of friends and family. We showed up at the brewery a couple hours into her shift and she about dropped dead from the shock.
No, I didn't get a blowjob out of the deal.
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13 minutes ago, chainsaw said:
IDGAF about the average fan though
Unfortunately, TV is obsessed with these people.
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1 minute ago, gernblansten said:
Yeah, what we really need are the 9-3 teams that lost conference games to the 3 best teams they played to prove again in the playoffs that they can't beat them. I have no idea why people want to watch Ole Miss lose to UGA a second time instead of watching UGA play Arizona State in a lose and go home game. Just admit you want CFB to be the NFL and create an all SEC/Big 10 CFB Big Boys Division that copies the NFC/AFC model and an Everyone Else CFB Division that operates in a manner more closely resembling CFB than the NFL.
I don't think many people watch college football want that.
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So if a play-in thing replaced CCGs, this is what it would have looked like last year (assuming you use regular season standings to seed):
SEC
1 UT vs 8 Ole Miss
2 UGA vs 7 Aggy
3 Tenn vs 6 SC
4 Bama vs 5 LSU
Big 10
1 Oregon vs 8 Minnesota
2 Indiana vs 7 Michigan
3 Pedo vs 6 Iowa
4 OSU vs 5 Illinois
Big 12
1 ASU vs 4 CU
2 ISU vs 3 BYU
ACC
1 SMU vs 4 Cuse
2 Clemson vs 3 Miami
The SEC, Big 12, and ACC games would have been pretty entertaining for the most part. The Big 10 is just glaring in it's gap between the top and everyone else, outside of Indiana/Michigan which was played and was actually a good game.
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3 minutes ago, statsman said:
Worse idea. This is putting Texas back into a Gulliver and Lilliput situation.
Auto bids are needed, because we have a quarter century of evidence that committees rate college football teams, first, by looking at the loss column, and there is so much variance in schedule quality.
Check out the Sagarin final top 12, and who played them in the (pre CCG) regular season.
The Buckeyes played three top 12 Sagarin teams.
ND played none.
Oregon played one.
Texas played two.
PSU played one.
Ole Miss played one.
UGA played four(!) (and Clemson wasn’t one of them)Bama played two
two Indiana played one
Tennessee played two
LSU played two
Michigan played four
ASU played none
ISU played none
Clemson played one
SMU played none
The SEC is a sixteen team conference playing an eight game schedule, and its best teams averaged 2.2 tough games. The B1G’s best teams, playing a nine game schedule, played an average of 2 tough games. The B12 and ACC can barely manage any tough games. You want the SEC to go to nine conference games? You don’t want to guarantee it CFP spots? Then, show that you can differentiate between an 11-1 team that has played nobody and a 9-3 team that survived a murderer’s row. As yet, that hasn’t been shown.
It wouldn't have to be that.
If you eliminate the idea of separate conferences as fifedoms that share their money with themselves and no one else, have one massive NFL-ish collective bargaining agreement, and then dish out revenue to individual schools on the basis of ratings, Texas (or anyone else) isn't beholden to the teams on their schedule as some kind of partner that they have to enrich. TTU and Baylor would have no say in the rules Texas was up against in this situation. They'd probably be on the schedule, and that's the end of the arrangement.
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8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:
I'm always baffled by the complaints about more CFB games being played. It used to be bitching about "meaningless" bowl games. Now it's about hypercompetitive play-in scenarios to make the playoffs, which will be larger unto itself as well. Bizarre shit.
I think most everyone is cool with the "more games" part. That's clearly the silver lining here.
It's the seismic changes created by a mindless unquenchable drive for revenue creation in a sport that people are largely attached to for very emotional, personal reasons, that gets folks pissed off.
We generally develop these attachments early in life and radical change to something we know and love is difficult - especially when said change was utterly unnecessary.
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11 minutes ago, chainsaw said:
They know people will watch. I just think it creates a disincentive to participate in the B1G and SEC title games. Those two teams most likely will both make the playoffs and will definitely suffer from the fatigue and injuries of that extra game, the way Oregon, Penn State, Texas, and Georgia did.
I don’t think there are going to be CCGs.
Theres going to be an 8 team play in to represent the SEC/Big 10; a 4 team play in to represent the ACC/Big 12, and some event to determine the G5 rep.
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I still like the idea of automatic berths for conference champions. Just don't seed off of that.
Having a play in situation is great entertainment, and I'm sure that's what this is going to turn into. All the multi bid conferences are going to have internal playoffs to determine their 4 or 2 automatic participants, and that's how it will increase the monetization of all this.
You'll have 4 games in the SEC and Big 10 determining these spots, and 2 in the Big 12 and ACC. Maybe the G5 does some kind of tournament to determine their entrant. It's a ploy to create more "meaningful" inventory, and get more money. More, more, more.
And I'll fucking watch it because it's what I do.
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It's pretty stupid though, and at this rate (whether any of us here live to see it or not) it's inevitable that without some kind of central leadership, college football is going to eat itself in the relentless pursuit of greed. The absurdity of what's happening off the field is largely overshadowing the action on the field, and everyone is cool with it until the leopard eats their face, because they're convinced the leopard could never eat their face.
It's really kind of a mirror of American society in many ways.
And just like America, those of us bitching the most about it are probably staying here anyways and going down with the ship because it's just been hardwired into us.
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26 minutes ago, G650 said:
Yeah, I mean I get that's how it went down, but I truly don't get how you didn't cotton on earlier, it was just so apparent. And I'm not bagging on you or anything, I'm truly mystified with what people look at with other humans, celebrities in particular. I just don't get how these people slide by large segments of the population.
I thought he was sort of dumb, but well meaning and open minded.
I don't mind people like that at all. It also seemed like he had a level of self awareness about it that eventually turned into a sort of parody.
The grifting side of wasn't evident to me at all prior to Covid. He really did have people from all sides, and the left leaning people weren't just chum. He took a hard right pivot after Covid.
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9 minutes ago, G650 said:
Will never not be fascinating to me that his podcast is what turned people off Joe Rogan, as opposed to his entire way of being his whole fucking life.
It was really most of what I knew of him. I liked Newsradio, didn't really follow his stand up, but I enjoyed the show back when he was bringing in legitimately interesting people and I felt like I was being exposed to some worthwhile things.
And to that end, I was. I wouldn't know SC Gwynne if not for JRE. I've absolutely learned and been entertained from his (Gwynne's) work.
The podcast turned me off because it became obvious that either he was really, really stupid or that he had absolutely no moral compass and was just willing to host anyone for the right money. He no longer felt like a flawed, but earnest person who was legitimately interested in expanding themselves. He was suckled to the teat of the great right wing grift.
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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:
How closely does his change coincide with his big contract?
It's pretty close. I was losing interest shortly before he moved to Spotify, but I don't think I've listened to a single pod since he made that switch.
So it was coming ahead of that, but it's gotten much worse in the aftermath.
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5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:
I feel bad because I started watching his show way back at the beginning because I was a huge fan of Newsradio. And I defended and supported this dude for years.
But in 2021 he lost the plot entirely. Covid I guess. Amazing how a thing that Trump managed so badly ended up benefiting Trump a ton.
I was in the same boat, and he lost me during Covid as well.
He absolutely changed his outlook, message, and completely bit into the MAGA verse. Who he was prior to that was fine for the most part, and I don't really feel bad about listening to his show or vouching for him back then, but man he lost the trail as hard as anyone ever has.
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It's fuckin' cold today.
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Watching my other Alma mater (Drake) on ESPN2. I think if they win out in the regular season they might get an at large bid.
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4 minutes ago, nnm said:
Classic. Just like Arizonans saying “but it’s a dry heat!”
When it’s -30F it’s freaking cold, I don’t care about the wind. When it’s +120F, it’s freaking hot, I don’t care about the humidity!But honestly, 0 with no wind is better than 30 and blustery, just like a dry 100 is more comfortable than a humid 85.
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I'd honestly like to see that. I'd much rather you guys be a force in the league than say, Houston.