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  1. 14 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

    AL RANKS
    ️AVG.    1         .263
    ️OBP.    1         .328
    ️SLG.    3         .406
    ️OPS.    3         .734
     

    And holy shit, what would these numbers be without the Abreu anchor?

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  2. 5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

    AL RANKS
    ️AVG.    1         .263
    ️OBP.    1         .328
    ️SLG.    3         .406
    ️OPS.    3         .734
     

    What a stupid game. 

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  3. 3 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

    My wife’s old dog is too much of a dainty cunt to go in the grass so she shits all over the pool decking.  This time she had a turd hanging out of her ass and got up on the couch, tracked what looked like green goose shit everywhere.  So yeah, fuck that dog

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  4. 13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    Respectfully, I think the disconnect here is you're making this argument about you. I'm sure you're a wonderful and responsible beta tester for Tesla. It sounds like you have sincere appreciation for the technology. That's great. 

    Most people though are morons. That includes Tesla owners. That's who we're talking about. And giving too many morons different options on how to "drive" their vehicle is dangerous, especially when a significant amount of them are Elon boot-lickers and/or Tesla investors. I'd guess there is an undeserved trust factor with some of these drivers. 

    And maybe I'm clueless, but I haven't seen a person use Cruise Control since the late 80s when my dad would use it on road trips so he could open his mail. 

    I hear you.  There are a lot of morons on the road and a lot of morons on the road in Teslas.

    I get the sense that a large portion of Tesla’s early adopters bought their cars because of the technology and the perceived environmental benefits of EVs.  That group can be further broken down into technophiles and technoflexers.  The technophiles respected the technology and were genuinely interested in testing and experiencing it.  The technoflexers were more interested in creating viral videos of themselves sleeping behind the wheel while doing 80 on the freeway.  I think the technoflexers were a small, but very visible minority that saddled Tesla owners with a terrible image.

    I say all of that to get around to this point - there have been a lot of FSD miles driven with very low accident rates.  Up until March of 2024,  there were only about 400K Tesla owners in the FSD beta program.  FSD beta has been in limited public release since October 2020, with more general availability since October 2022.  In 3.5 years, there have been very few accidents attributed to Teslas in FSD.   In March 2024, Tesla opened the floodgates and gave every Tesla driver a free month of FSD.  If this system was so irresponsible and inherently dangerous, we should have seen a spike of FSD-related accidents over the past month.  Maybe the data collection and reporting is lagging a bit, but we haven’t seen that spike as of yet.  
     

     

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  5. 4 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

    Also @Guadaloopy while we have your attention and you are replying:

    Serious question as you seem to genuinely like the Tesla as a car and driving experience based on your posting history here: do you have any ethical qualms regarding being a current Tesla owner? On any level does it give you "the ick", as the kids say?

    Obviously it's too late now, but if you had a choice to do it again, would you buy a different vehicle or buy a Tesla again, knowing all that you know (and have firsthand experienced as an owner)?

    No ethical qualms at all.  I bought the vehicle in September of 2020 because of the technology and performance.  At the time, I also had Tesla home solar and Power Walls.  It was pretty cool having all three on the same app to manage.  The other deciding factor was the supercharging network.  No one else came close to providing the charging availability of the Tesla fleet.  It's still a huge competitive advantage for Tesla IMO.

    Fast forward to now... I probably won't buy another Tesla unless the company regains some of its earlier focus on accelerating the transition to renewable energy.  The Cybertruck has been a huge misstep from concept to execution and has diluted the focus of the company.  I never bought into the cult of Elon, but I really loved the Tesla brand circa 2020.  To say the shine has come off is a huge understatement.  

    My next vehicle will probably be an F150 Lightning once Ford shifts over to NACS.     

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

    That's a shitty and misleading name for a feature then. It should be actioned by the FTC because people are buying Tesla's thinking they can do autopilot, like the name would suggest. 

    I don't know why anyone would assume that Autopilot does anything more than the accepted dictionary definition that Hank shared above.  That's exactly what Tesla's Autopilot does.

  7. 5 minutes ago, NoName said:

    funny enough IIHS gave both the FSD and Autopilot a P (Poor) rating on safety, which is the same as the Volvo Pilot Assist

    https://www.iihs.org/ratings/partial-automation-safeguards

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    to be fair, all but 3 tested systems got poor ratings. the Lexus version got an A (Acceptable), the GM and Nissan version version got an M (Marginal)

    Not a great performance by Tesla for sure.  One caveat that I will toss out there is that the tested version of FSD is a year old.  Current version is MUCH better.

  8. 15 minutes ago, NoName said:

    ACC is absolutely not a 1:1 comparison for FSD - and again, you know that.

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    But that's the problem with a lot of the discussion in this thread.  People continually conflate Tesla's Autopilot features with FSD.  Tesla's "Autopilot" feature is simply TACC + Lane-keeping.  Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot takes it a step further and adds in automatic lane changes based on traffic conditions and set speed.  There is a third level of Autopilot called "Navigate on Autopilot" which will navigate highway interchanges and take highway exits.  FSD (Supervised) - the current revised Tesla nomenclature - does all of the above plus navigation on city streets.

    The vehicle in the article above was in "Autopilot" = TACC + Lane-keeping. 

  9. Just now, NoName said:

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    ...of course adaptive cruise control alerts you less than FSD. it exists for a very specific use case, has a much smaller scope and typically you don't have it on all the time.

    ...so of course it is going to drop in significantly fewer notifications than FSD Beta. or it certainly should.

    here's what Volvo's website says about their Adaptive Cruise Control:

    ACC is absolutely not a 1:1 comparison for FSD - and again, you know that.

    come on, dude.

    I should have been more clear.  I am comparing my experience with Tesla's TACC and Autopilot (lane-keeping) to my experience with Volvo's.  Tesla has more overt notifications when engaging these systems along with on-screen warnings as compared to Volvo.  Driver-monitoring is more frequent and obvious in the Tesla than the Volvo.

    FSD is a different animal.  

  10. 18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    Maybe dipshit shouldn't call it Autopilot then. Since, you know, most people driving are dipshits. 

     

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    Maybe so, but there are plenty of dipshits who also misunderstand cruise control.   
     

    This is my anecdotal evidence, but I get more reminders and warnings from my Tesla’s driver assist features than I have ever gotten from any other make of vehicle. 
     

    I have a Volvo that has TACC and lane-keeping.  I get nothing but a “ding” when I engage it.  I have also had it turn off the lane-keeping function with no notice multiple times.  It’s quite disconcerting.  I am far more comfortable using Tesla’s features than the Volvo’s. 

  11. 3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

    https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tesla-driver-on-autopilot-caused-fatal-highway-522-crash-police-say/

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    Tesla driver on Autopilot caused fatal Highway 522 crash, police say

    The driver was reportedly on his phone with his Tesla on Autopilot on Friday when he crashed into Jeffrey Nissen, killing him.

    Jonathan Tall
    • Monday, April 22, 2024 2:44pm
    A Tesla electric vehicle is seen at a Tesla electric vehicle charging station at Willow Festival shopping plaza parking lot in Northbrook, Ill., Saturday, Dec. 3, 2022. A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killing a motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

    MALTBY — A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killinga motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report.

    Around 3:45 p.m., a Snohomish man in a 2022 Tesla Model S was driving home behind a motorcyclist at Fales Road in Maltby, according to the report.

    The man, 56, had activated Tesla’s Autopilot feature. He was using his phone when he heard a bang as his car lurched forward and crashed into the motorcycle in front of him, troopers wrote.

    The motorcyclist, Jeffrey Nissen, was ejected. The Tesla was lodged on top of him, police said.

    The Tesla driver exited his car and called police. Nissen died at the scene. He was 28.

    Using sobriety and drug recognition tests, authorities determined the driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, according to the report. Troopers arrested the Tesla driver for investigation of vehicular homicide while driving distracted.

    Troopers wrote the driver’s inattention while his car was on Autopilot, “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” gave them probable cause to arrest the man. He was booked into the Snohomish County Jail.

    Tesla’s Autopilot feature has come under regulatory and legal scrutiny. Since 2019, at least 17 people have been killed in crashes involving Teslas in Autopilot mode, The Washington Post reported in June.

    The crash came a day before Tesla slashed the price of its Full Self-Driving software from $12,000 to $8,000.

    The technology does not mean the car is autonomous. Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability are “intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment,” according to the company’s website.

    The man posted $100,000 bail and was released from jail Sunday night.

    Jonathan Tall: 425-339-3486;jonathan.tall@heraldnet.com; Twitter: @snocojon.

     

     

    2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

    When your testing products on the public, a few innocent people will have to die. 

     

    22 minutes ago, Nivek said:

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    “Distracted Driver Kills Motorcyclist” doesn’t really get the clicks does it?

    Tesla’s Autopilot is not FSD.  It’s different software altogether.  But that’s beside the point.  
     

    If the headline was “Ford Driver Using Cruise Control with Lane Assist Caused Fatal Crash” no one would give it a second look, because…

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  12. 1 hour ago, F250 said:

    Mercedes is selling Level 3 cars in California and Nevada. Will other traditional auto manufacturers leap frog Tesla as well, turning Tesla into the next Sega Dreamcast?

    https://fortune.com/2024/04/18/mercedes-self-driving-autonomous-cars-california-nevada-level-3-drive-pilot/

     

    System only works below 40 mph with another vehicle in front.  Tesla could probably go through the motions to get their system certified at this level with these restrictions, but ...

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  13. 57 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    This shit is so funny man. We get it, you like your car. You don't have to run around getting angry about "unfair" tests of its capabilities. I'm pretty sure most normal people think that if a FSD-ish system is going to be allowed to be used on our roads it should be able to avoid hitting children who are wearing neutral colors.

    Never said it was unfair.  I said it was engineered to produce a failure.  The fact that so many complicating factors had to be introduced in order to generate the failure is an important piece of the story, IMO. 

    My takeaway from the test is that Tesla has important work to do to address performance in these difficult edge cases.  But the good news takeaway is that the system performs so well in normal situations that the critics ignore those scenarios.

  14. 6 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

    The whole point of it being only Level 2 is the fact that you CAN’T trust the machine to do the driving task. You still have to pay attention to pick up its messes. You can’t give up total control. 

    100% agreed.  It has to be monitored constantly, but even though you are monitoring it, you are still watching the car drive itself without your physical input.  That’s a weird feeling at first.  
     

    It used to feel really weird, because the maneuvers were mechanical and herky jerky - more digital if you will.  As the system developed further and especially with the shift over to AI-trained V12, it is now much more analog and human-like with its maneuvers.  

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