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Posts posted by Guadaloopy
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4 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:
Finally tested FSD and holy shit I hate it. Having to pay attention and keep hands on the wheel is far more stressful than just driving yourself. FSD is useless unless the driver can fuck off while it's engaged.
It’s a very uncomfortable feeling the first few times you use it. I don’t think that’s an indictment of the system, but a natural response that comes from trusting a machine to do something that you have had control of for your entire adult life.
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16 minutes ago, MrBig said:
There is a bigger difference in what lidar systems can accomplish vs FSD. It is evident in this testing video that the FSD can’t see shit in the dark. Testing starts at 2:21
That’s a three year old video, so it’s not an FSD Tesla in the video. It specifically says in the video that the initial speed is driver controlled and it is relying on the Pedestrian Automated Emergency Braking System to avoid the collision.
It’s obvious that in this test, the non-production LIDAR assisted PAEB system outperformed the standard production PAEB system in older Teslas.
Since the timeframe of the test in this video, Tesla has significantly improved its low-light image processing software. Couple that with the advances in FSD in the past three years, and I would be very interested to see a new comparison test between these technologies.
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9 minutes ago, royiv said:
That’s skirting the question. An adult pedestrian is very different than a child that is smaller, shiftier and harder to predict than an adult. You move the goal posts a lot in your quest to stan for Tesla.
Not moving goalposts. Just replying with related experience.
I do not have the specific experience of a child running in front of my vehicle while in FSD.
I do have experience driving in my neighborhood and observing how the car sees and visualizes and behaves around the kids that play, skate, and ride bikes and scooters in the street.
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1 minute ago, royiv said:
How many kids have run out in front of your Tesla while you’ve been beta testing FSD?
I have driven around plenty of pedestrians and watched closely how the car reacts to them while in FSD. It’s almost maddeningly cautious. My experience has also been that the car sees and visualizes pedestrians on the display before I even notice them.
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28 minutes ago, royiv said:
You said that the driver was pressing the accelerator and then you got pantsed. Dude, take the L.
Pantsed? MrBig pointed out information that I had not noticed. I acknowledged it and I thanked him for it.
It would be a better world if we could all admit that none of us always has the whole picture.
I admit that I am biased based on what I experience consistently while using Tesla’s FSD system. I’m still a bit puzzled by that video because it doesn’t match my experience observing first-hand how this system operates. But I’m willing to admit that my experience isn’t definitive.Clearly, the majority of folks on this thread have decided that they have the whole picture regarding Tesla’s approach to FSD and have passed final judgment. They highlight information that supports that bias and dismiss any information that doesn’t.
I’m willing to participate in this thread and be a bit of a punching bag because I think it’s important to share another perspective.
But y’all tell me to fuck off and leave the thread, and I will.
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10 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:
So a vehicle that can see a child in the road is not empowered to stop itself, and if it tries but gets any driver input it just says ok yolo?
and an extension- a vehicle that is capable of seeing such things and reacting to them, is that capability only utilized in auto driver mode and not as a failsafe of poor driving?
You can’t have it both ways yet. If you want a level 2 system with human supervision, the human has to have the ultimate override.
EAB systems in all auto manufacturers can be overridden by pressing the accelerator.
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18 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:
Art Briles thinks that if the kid didn't want to get hit by a car, he shouldn't have dressed like that.
18 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:You make people who blame rape victims look sane. lol
17 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:The kid shouldn’t have dressed so slutty if he didn’t want to be mowed down
Except that isn’t at all what I said. I said that it was part of the test design intended to produce a specific result.
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6 minutes ago, MrBig said:
You can literally see the accelerator on the floor being untouched during each crosswalk test.
You are correct. I did not notice that before. Thanks for pointing it out.
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On 4/17/2024 at 10:43 AM, Red Five said:
It's just supposed to be a funny math deal. i.e. Back to the Future would be set in 1994, etc.
I would fucking love to go back to 1994 for a visit.
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Just now, Wulaw Horn said:
Sure. But I bet we are a lot better than 15-30 after 45 games.
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On 11/16/2023 at 3:15 PM, henrygandorf said:
gee, you think so, doctor?
Since the thread got necrobumped, I can go back and necro-rep a criminally underused movie quote.
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Team is behind the pace of the famous "Tombstone Season". That team was 8-12 after 20 games.
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Just now, BrickHorn said:
Holy shit I can’t stop laughing. You guys are fucking simps.
It's honestly my only complaint about the car, and I had the exact same issue with a Mercedes GLC 300.
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On 4/17/2024 at 2:27 PM, aggie08 said:
What the fuck is "Car Wash Mode"?
Pretty much already answered but it does the following:
- Verifies that all windows are fully raised
- Turns off automated windshield wipers
- Locks doors, trunk, and charge port
- Folds in side view mirrors
- Places HVAC system in recirc mode (see below)*
- Places car in neutral/free roll
It's a handy feature to be able to hit one on screen button to verify all of these items.
*Unfortunately, due a design flaw in the air intake location for the ventilation system in the Model 3, it's a very good idea if not an essential step that you put HVAC in recirc for a car wash or during the rain or you run the risk of ingesting water through the intake and soaking the filters and ending up with a mildewy funk in the HVAC system. Car Wash mode is one mitigation that Tesla developed to address this common complaint.
13 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:How many times has your vehicle run over children and/or mannequins?!
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Just now, Captainant said:
- but the fact that the car wasn't even aware that hit it something is a HUGE problem.
That's why I suspect that as in previous "tests" engineered by O'Dowd, the driver is actually applying pressure to the accelerator to override the automated actions of FSD. The behavior of the vehicle during this "experiment" is so far out of step with my actual experience with the system that I believe that the car is being manipulated by the driver.
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3 hours ago, TonyTexas said:
Elon is ok with that test because it was at a Jewish school.
3 hours ago, Captainant said:Yes, FSD failed this particular test. It's actually a very difficult test. It doesn't take a very critical eye to watch this and see that the test was engineered to result in failure.
- The dummy was dressed in neutral colors and earth tones to blend in with the background vehicle and background vegetation and wall.
- The dummy remained stationary until very late in the test.
- The dummy was accelerated to a near instantaneous running speed at the last possible moment.
These conditions would be difficult for an unsuspecting human driver.
O'Dowd is a disingenuous and untrustworthy Tesla FSD critic. He is a competitor, and he is not above manipulating and falsifying experiments to show the results that support his arguments. Previous videos from O'Dowd have showed a warning on the Tesla screen indicating that the accelerator is being pressed by the human operator to override FSD's automated actions. O'Dowd has passed these off as FSD failures when the failure is actually due to the overriding actions by the human operator.
This particular video has a warning on the screen that appears to be unrelated to FSD, but if multiple warnings are active, you can cycle through them to see the one you want. There is something weird happening in this test. In the first three tests, you can see the vehicle start to decelerate as it approaches the crosswalk and sees something, but it doesn't stop. That leads me to believe that O'Dowd and his team are gaming the warning displays and actually slightly pressing the accelerator during these tests, effectively overriding FSD's automated actions. I would like to see this test completed on a vehicle with no visible warnings on the screen.
I would also like to see videos from O'Dowd with the technology he supports passing this same test.
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1 minute ago, Rip76 said:
Listened to a lot of complaints today on talk radio.
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19 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:
Someone here a few weeks ago said we need to chill the hell out because we’ll be .500 by the end of April.
I may have been wrong.
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Who didn't see that coming? FUCK!
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Fuck this season.
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Good job, guys. Solid swings.
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Didn't give them the lead, so that's progress.
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Great jerseys, Fanatics. D'Arnaud looks sharp,
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