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atomheartbevo

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  1. 2 hours ago, bolverk said:

    But he was already considering workarounds. He raised the possibility that if his tariffs issued under emergency authorities were struck down by the Supreme Court, he could repackage them as licensing fees. And Mr. Trump, who said he was elected to restore law and order, reiterated that he was willing to invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy the military inside the United States and federalize some National Guard units if he felt it was important to do so.

    So far, he said, “I haven’t really felt the need to do it.”

    If he thought he could, he would have already done it. He wouldn't have tucked his tail between his leg on the NG deployments; he would have fully federalized them and invoke the Insurrection Act.

    This is not a man who carefully lays out and studies all of the tools at his disposal - everything is a nail in his eyes, and his only tool is a hammer. He wasn't patiently waiting for the NG stuff to work its way through the courts before deciding to federalize and invoke the Insurrection Act. It is an election year, and somebody around him, even if he doesn't, has an awareness of certain actions, and so he's not willing to take that next step.

  2. Everybody is in full CYA mode, and Noem and Trump are fucking up the narrative by pushing things that go against the video evidence, and Vance is coming in off the top rope, and all three are driving the Streisand Effect - there are going to be people who don't care or who are Republicans and automatically buy what Trump is selling, and because of those three, they might take a look at some of the videos out there.

    May not change their minds, especially MAGA, but they are at least going to be exposed to the situation and not just what Trump is saying.

    Quite a few people who are moderates/fence-sitters/flip-floppers are either going to pick the Dems or just sit out this November.

  3. 2 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

    Why Minneapolis? Those pussies should come back to LA and get their ass handed to them again

    Because it's a liberal state, Tim Walz, etc. and because in larger cities, some shit could go down.

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    Edited by atomheartbevo

    5 hours ago, C-Man said:

    Yes, pretty sure this was him justifying people or law enforcement running over protesters.

    What have we become? This is beyond infuriating.

    3 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

    I just unfriended a handful of long time acquaintances from facebook after posts or comments that they thought Ms. Good was the one at fault and her shooting was justified. Not worth engaging and I don't want anything to do with them anymore.

    I'm not unfriending people - I'm challenging them, but only a bit - overwhelm them and they shut down and run off/unfriend you/whatever. I'm not talking about the victim with them (you won't change their minds if they've made them up about her).

    I'm pushing back in two ways - one, I've told multiple people that Trump said the agent was run over and in the hospital, and I've provided links showing that he wasn't run over and that he was walking around for a long time after, giving orders, talking to other agents, etc. and I'm simply asking "Either Donald Trump lied or somebody lied to Donald Trump, why do you think this lie is being pushed on national TV when the videos show otherwise?"

    The other thing that I'm quietly pushing is that for most of the 90s and 2000s, Rush Limbaugh warned about the liberals turning us into a Big Government "papers please" police state where federal agents can just randomly stop and ask people to prove who they were, and here we are where federal agents are randomly stopping people across the US, going into public spaces, and doing the "papers please" thing all the while masked up so you can't ID them, etc., I ask these people if they are okay with what Rush Limbaugh warned about, since it turned out to not be the liberals pushing this, but Republicans.

    Am I changing minds? By keeping it simple and focused on a single point or two, I am talking to them about it. If I were to bust out everything that is happening around this, the whole big picture of why this is happening, that we are distracted from Epstein and various other things, that there is definitely a white-supremacist angle (and if you bring that up with a white relative, they feel like you are accusing them of being white supremacists so that conversation ends/devolves), these people are going to get you lost in the details.

    But if you zero in on a few small things that are hard to deny - the cop was not run over, Trump claimed he was, and that we have federal agents across the US in a "papers please" Big Government capacity, you can engage them and at least make them uncomfortable.

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    Edited by atomheartbevo

    1 hour ago, horn_of_the_morning said:

    another twitter account. take it FWIW.

    WarMonitor3 has a lot of good stuff, but he also jumps the gun quite a bit, and he likes to post things without sources (although this maybe an actual NOTAMS).

    I would be worried that the US is about to bomb Iran and fuck up the protests.

  6. 2 hours ago, Saint Austin said:

    Cool, now do Greenland.

    There are 8 Republican Senators who are already publicly saying not to fuck with Greenland/Denmark, and there may be a vote soon. That will be an easier sell than the vote over Venezuela, which I'm actually surprised - that there are Republicans who are willing to rebuke him.

  7. 54 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    I"m running out of words with this motherfucker.

    I take it as a sign that they are scared their base might watch the videos and that they will lose the midterms.

    They are trying to control the narrative hard - flat out lying that the officer was run over, etc. and they are desperate.


  8. Was headed to a Russian port to pick up a load of oil. Hopefully we see a lot more of this.

    The Turkish outlet Ortadoğu reports that on January 7, a drone attacked the oil tanker ELBUS near the coast of Turkey in the Black Sea. The vessel was heading to the Russian port of Novorossiysk, where it was supposed to load oil. The ELBUS tanker, sailing under the flag of Palau, was located approximately 30 miles off the coast of the Abana district in Turkey’s Kastamonu Province. https://ortadogugazetesi.com/gundem/kastamonu-aciklarinda-dron-saldirisi-elbus-tankeri-hedef-oldu/347527

  9. ·

    Edited by atomheartbevo

    NSIAP - from a few days ago, in regard to the mask thing - if they are being filmed, they put their masks on. They are ashamed.

    This video is terrifying, and it’s exactly why “just comply” does not protect you from ICE/Border Patrol agents, even as U.S. citizens, and why you always film them.

    In North Carolina, ICE/Border Patrol agents illegally stopped two U.S. citizens. They questioned them without legal cause, took their licenses, and admitted on camera that the men were allowed to record.

    And they were still attacked.

    In the video, one man asks if he can film for his safety. The agent says yes, saying that he’ll “have to put his mask on.” The agents take their licenses, ask where they’re from, where they live, what they’re doing in the area, all without legal authority. The men cooperate anyway.

    Then the situation turns dangerous.

    Another agent suddenly tells the driver, “Turn off your video. You are being detained, so you are not free to record.”

    That is false. Recording law enforcement in public is legal, including during detention.

    The driver calmly refuses, keeps one hand on the steering wheel as instructed, and holds his phone in the other.

    That’s when the agent lunges for the phone.

    The agent throws himself into the car, trying to grab the device. When the driver moves it away, the agent assaults him.

    The agent then illegally opens the car door, something the driver correctly points out they are not allowed to do.

    The agents keep demanding the filming stop, as multiple agents keep reaching for the phone.

    Then they escalate again.

    They threaten arrest, grab the driver, and start hitting him and trying to drag him out of the car, even though he keeps saying, “We haven’t done anything wrong.” When they fail to pull him out, they back away, visibly angry.

    They turn on the passenger next.

    An agent grabs him, threatens handcuffs, and assaults him trying to force him out of the vehicle. When that doesn’t work, they start yelling conflicting commands, claiming the men are “interfering with an investigation.”

    An investigation into what?

    Their own illegal stop.

    At one point, an agent shouts that the men can’t interfere, while another tries… again… to grab the phone, almost certainly to stop or erase the recording.

    Only after all of this do the agents finally release them.

    Because they are U.S. citizens.

    Because the stop was illegal.

    And because the camera was still rolling.

    This is why you film ICE.

    This is why compliance doesn’t save you.

    This is why they hate cameras.

    If this hadn’t been recorded, this would be another lie in a report, another “resisting” accusation, another abuse buried and denied.

    Film them. Always.

  10. ·

    Edited by atomheartbevo

    From a few days ago, about the mask thing. If they are being filmed, they put their masks on.

    This video is terrifying, and it’s exactly why “just comply” does not protect you from ICE/Border Patrol agents, even as U.S. citizens, and why you always film them.

    In North Carolina, ICE/Border Patrol agents illegally stopped two U.S. citizens. They questioned them without legal cause, took their licenses, and admitted on camera that the men were allowed to record.

    And they were still attacked.

    In the video, one man asks if he can film for his safety. The agent says yes, saying that he’ll “have to put his mask on.” The agents take their licenses, ask where they’re from, where they live, what they’re doing in the area, all without legal authority. The men cooperate anyway.

    Then the situation turns dangerous.

    Another agent suddenly tells the driver, “Turn off your video. You are being detained, so you are not free to record.”

    That is false. Recording law enforcement in public is legal, including during detention.

    The driver calmly refuses, keeps one hand on the steering wheel as instructed, and holds his phone in the other.

    That’s when the agent lunges for the phone.

    The agent throws himself into the car, trying to grab the device. When the driver moves it away, the agent assaults him.

    The agent then illegally opens the car door, something the driver correctly points out they are not allowed to do.

    The agents keep demanding the filming stop, as multiple agents keep reaching for the phone.

    Then they escalate again.

    They threaten arrest, grab the driver, and start hitting him and trying to drag him out of the car, even though he keeps saying, “We haven’t done anything wrong.” When they fail to pull him out, they back away, visibly angry.

    They turn on the passenger next.

    An agent grabs him, threatens handcuffs, and assaults him trying to force him out of the vehicle. When that doesn’t work, they start yelling conflicting commands, claiming the men are “interfering with an investigation.”

    An investigation into what?

    Their own illegal stop.

    At one point, an agent shouts that the men can’t interfere, while another tries… again… to grab the phone, almost certainly to stop or erase the recording.

    Only after all of this do the agents finally release them.

    Because they are U.S. citizens.

    Because the stop was illegal.

    And because the camera was still rolling.

    This is why you film ICE.

    This is why compliance doesn’t save you.

    This is why they hate cameras.

    If this hadn’t been recorded, this would be another lie in a report, another “resisting” accusation, another abuse buried and denied.

    Film them. Always.

  11. This has been posted, not sure when it happened, but it is big that people are doing this - they clearly aren't afraid of the regime or security forces any more.

    But holy shit is it hard to get verifiable stuff out of Iran.

  12. 58 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

    None of this will change until ICE agents actively fear for their safety.

    No, that will make them even more skittish and prone to shooting first and not asking questions later.

    They need to have their names and faces plastered across social media and the air waves is what they need, in other words, accountability. Your typical big city beat cop doesn't get to walk around hiding his identity like that.

  13. U.S. Vice President JD Vance participated in an interview recently with Fox News commentator Jesse Watters, discussing several topics, including the recent military operation in Venezuela:

    Watters: “Taking out a dictator in Venezuela, how does that help the average American?”

    Vance: “First of all, what it means is we're going to be able to control the incredible natural resources of Venezuela, which is good for America in a few ways. Number one, it allows us to put leverage on our enemies. Number two, it makes sure that if Americans need high quality, low cost power, we're always going to have access to it. And then the third thing is it does demonstrate American military excellence, which makes people afraid to cross us in the future. Some of the best ways that you maintain the peace is to make it clear that you carry a very strong sword if you ever need to use it.”

    Ricky Gervais Lol GIF

    He's not even hiding that it's about the oil and not the drugs.

  14. U.S. Vice President JD Vance participated in an interview recently with Fox News commentator Jesse Watters, discussing several topics, including the recent military operation in Venezuela:

    Watters: “Taking out a dictator in Venezuela, how does that help the average American?”

    Vance: “First of all, what it means is we're going to be able to control the incredible natural resources of Venezuela, which is good for America in a few ways. Number one, it allows us to put leverage on our enemies. Number two, it makes sure that if Americans need high quality, low cost power, we're always going to have access to it. And then the third thing is it does demonstrate American military excellence, which makes people afraid to cross us in the future. Some of the best ways that you maintain the peace is to make it clear that you carry a very strong sword if you ever need to use it.”


    Ricky Gervais Lol GIF

    He's not even hiding that it's about the oil and not the drugs.

  15. Eight Republican Senators have now publicly come out against recent hostile statements by the White House towards Denmark as well as any kind of military action against Greenland, including Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas, Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Sen. John N. Kennedy of Louisiana, Sen. John Curtis of Utah, and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.

    Tillis slams White House adviser Stephen Miller’s comments on Greenland: 'Amateurish'

    Republican Sen. Thom Tillis (N.C.) on Wednesday slammed senior White House adviser Stephen Miller’s comment that Greenland rightfully belongs to the U.S. and that no one is going to stop the Trump administration from seizing it.

    Tillis called Miller’s remarks “amateurish” and suggested that White House advisers pushing a takeover of Greenland should lose their jobs.

    Tillis, the co-chair of the Senate NATO Observer Group, stood on the floor to blast what he called “amateurish behavior with respect to the treatment of our NATO allies.”

    He said he was referring to an “interview that I saw with one of the president’s senior policy advisers, Stephen Miller, on CNN a couple of nights ago.”

    “Mr. Miller said that [Greenland] should be part of the U.S. That is absurd,” Tillis declared on the Senate floor.

    “I think it was an amateurish comment and something that a deputy chief of staff and senior policy adviser should not have taken the position on,” Tillis added, referring to Trump’s top policy aide. “He doesn’t speak for the U.S. government.

    “He should talk to people like me who have an election certificate and a vote in the U.S. Senate,” he added. “I can’t imagine why he’d make the comments that he did the other night in a television interview.”

    Tillis said the comments, which have driven a wedge between the U.S. and a NATO ally, undermined an important national security relationship. He noted that Denmark was one of NATO’s “most disproportionately high contributors” to the allied war in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

    He pointed out that Denmark deployed 18,000 of its soldiers to Afghanistan and 43 of them died fighting alongside American soldiers “defending our freedom and holding the Taliban and al Qaeda responsible for the events of Sept. 11.”

  16. 14 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Crazy how no one publicly touts any positivity of sports gambling but we keep expanding it every year. Instead of entertainment being the reason for sports, sports are now largely used to move money out of the pockets of gamblers and into the gambling companies.

    I'm not anti-gambling but it's not a good idea that we all have casinos and sports books in our phones and the TV channels spend as much time on lines and odds as they do other sports stories.

    12 hours ago, 'stache said:

    Gambling is like any vice. Make it illegal and it just goes underground to be managed by criminal elements. I don't like it either, I seriously do not understand the mentality of doing something in which you are all but guaranteed to lose money, but its a thing and might as well be legal. I also support legalized marijuana even though I hate that half the people at the grocery store reek of weed.

    I'm honestly shocked that Texas hasn't gone all in on the casinos and Abbott and Co. just watch that money flowing to New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Louisiana.

    16 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

    I like how the completely unregulated transfer portal madness is ruining college football. I guess a complete lack of a legitimate governmental body regulation of some kind is a disaster no matter the scenario.

    It's crazy that players might play for 3 different schools before they leave for the NFL.

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