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Posts posted by atomheartbevo
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They moved tens of thousands of men and dozens of ships and a lot of aircraft to prepare for their war against Venezuela and it might come undone becauee somebody couldn’t help but kill a couple of dudes floating on some wreckage.
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I’m not going to listen to anybody that fucked Puck’s ex.
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3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:
So is Colombia next
Well we just discovered that they’ve got factories producing cocoaine
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2 minutes ago, Carrizo Chorizo said:
The crime was that it was a double tap strike, correct?
The crime is that if you blow up a ship or shoot down an aircraft, and there are survivors in the water, they are no longer considered combatants, and therefore you cannot kill them legally. I don’t know if it was Hegseth or Bradley, but somebody tried to claim they were legitimate targets because they could call their buddies to come pick up the drugs. That is insane. People clinging to pieces of a blown up boat are not thinking “oh, I’m gonna call my buddies to come get the drugs and continue on their way to America. “
We prosecuted Germans and Japanese after World War II, who had killed Americans and other allies in similar situations. We even hung U-Boat commanders who machine gunned people in the water.
And that’s before we get into the question of whether we are actually at war with Venezuela or not. Hint: we are not at war. We also cannot designate them as terrorist based on 911 because I’m fairly certain Venezuela was not involved with 911.
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28 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:
you attack and he stays in power, 100%. But if you can topple him, it can be done quickly.
2. The thoughts are that however unlikely you can pressure him to self-exiling,
He knows that if the US gets their hands on him, he’ll end up like Noriega. He’s not leaving willingly. And one huge difference between this and Panama is we actually had military bases in Panama. We don’t have that here. We would have to put a lot of troops in to the country from ships and that’s not easy with the way their geography is.
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In fact, my gut says that those veterans in Congress would not have made that video unless they knew there were illegal orders being given. The timing of their video and the subsequent flip out by Trump and Hegseth speaks volumes.
And I may have missed it, but I don’t recall Trump and Hegseth going out there saying the video is meaningless because they’re not giving illegal orders. Instead, they attacked the video and claimed they were telling service members not to obey legal orders. That means they probably thought they were lawful and now they realize they’re not or they believed that nobody outside of the Department of Defense knew what was going on. Or they were trying to project that they were only giving lawful orders.
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30 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:
they are shook, because i have little to no doubt that there is actual documentation out of their control about what really happened.
Kelly might have seen it in a briefing he would have received as the timing matches up. He couldn’t come out and talk about any specifics because it would’ve been classified, but he could’ve put out a generic video saying don’t follow any illegal orders.
I think that’s why Trump and Hegseth flipped out so much over Kelly.
I know there’s a story floating around earlier today that the Washington Post got it wrong, but they’ve had ample opportunity to spend a few minutes over the weekend or yesterday to look at the video, and if there had been no survivors, Trump and Hegseth would be out there saying that. Hegseth would’ve made sure to tell Trump.
And Hegseth is pretty insecure, and he knows that decorated Navy admirals are not gonna go down for some two-bit Army major who had a spotty and short career and never held a major command.
Hegseth and Trump are definitely acting like there’s a video out there and it’s out of their control.
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Trump stayed up tweeting hundreds of times in just a few hours last night. Is somebody nervous after a meeting?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/01/politics/trump-venezuela-meeting
QuotePresident Donald Trump and top national security officials huddled at the White House Monday to discuss next steps on Venezuela, as the administration faces renewed called from lawmakers to release more information – particularly about a controversial decision in September to strike a boat in the Caribbean twice, killing remaining survivors in the second blow.
Key members of Trump’s Cabinet and national security team, including Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine and Secretary of State Marco Rubio had been expected to attend, sources familiar with the matter said, as well as White House chief of staff Susie Wiles and deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller.
QuoteThe Oval Office meeting, which attendees began arriving for just before 5 p.m., comes as the United States has increased pressure on Venezuela with strikes on drug vessels and a military asset buildup in the Caribbean. The US military has amassed more than a dozen warships and 15,000 troops in the region as part of what the Pentagon has branded “Operation Southern Spear.” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday that Trump was “meeting with his national security team on this subject and on many matters,” adding, “It’s part of his responsibility to ensure that peace is ongoing throughout the world.”
QuoteThe meeting also comes as Trump and his top military officials are facing growing questions about the legality of the US strikes on alleged drug boatsin the region killing more than 80 people. The US is not officially in a war with Venezuela, and lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have said they plan to examine reports that the US carried out a follow-up strike on a suspected drug vessel after an initial attack did not kill everyone on board.
Quote“The law is clear,” Maine Sen. Angus King, an independent, told CNN on Monday morning. “If the facts are, as have been alleged, that there was a second strike specifically to kill the survivors in the water — that’s a stone-cold war crime. It’s also murder.”
On Monday, Leavitt identified the official who ordered the follow-up strike – Adm. Frank M. “Mitch” Bradley, commander of the US Special Operations Command – and said he was acting “well within his authority.”
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12 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:
And now we see why that other Admiral that was previously in charge of this shit show resigned. He knew what was coming down the pike and said, yeah, I'm not committing war crimes for you just so you can lay it all at my feet later. Obviously Bradley was too fucking stupid to take a hint.
Bradley is going to be in front of Congress next week, so get some popcorn between now and then.
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Not that anybody cares what Loomer says any more, but I enjoy any infighting.
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I'm assuming the US and Hungary won't have access
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9 minutes ago, C-Man said:
I’m Team Silver Jews
Silver Serpents were a much better band, but they went downhill for a good decade before merging with the Silver Jews to become the Jewish Serpents. Being that they are a prog-rock band based out of St. Paul, they are frequently confused with the Jewish Servants, the prog-rock band from Minneapolis.
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9 minutes ago, chad.ihrig said:
What the actual fuck?!?
When your boss goes on social media and says you're an American hero and says he stands by the decisions you made, not the decisions he made and ordered you to carry out, but the decisions you made, well, we know where this ends...
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Sen. Mark Kelly just OBLITERATED Pete Hegseth - and by extension Trump himself - with one of the most brutal takedowns yet.
Kelly says Trump put a man in charge of the Pentagon who “runs around on a stage like he’s a 12-year-old playing army.”
A guy so unserious, so reckless, Kelly literally can’t imagine what our allies think watching this clown pretend to lead the world’s greatest military.
Hegseth should’ve been fired after SignalGate. He should’ve been fired every single day after that.
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This administration is nothing but children with vast inferiority complexes
Publisher condemns 'violent' use of Franklin the Turtle after Pete Hegseth's boat strike post
The publisher of Franklin the Turtle released a statement Monday condemning the "violent" use of the children’s book character after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth posted an image with the title “Franklin Targets Narco Terrorists.”
“Franklin the Turtle is a beloved Canadian icon who has inspired generations of children and stands for kindness, empathy, and inclusivity,” the publishing house Kids Can Press wrote in a statement on X.
“We strongly condemn any denigrating, violent, or unauthorized use of Franklin’s name or image, which directly contradicts these values,” the statement read.
Chief Defense Department spokesperson Sean Parnell responded to the publisher in a statement, saying: “We doubt Franklin the Turtle wants to be inclusive of drug cartels… or laud the kindness and empathy of narco-terrorists.”
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Fox News is out there defending it, so they've got their orders and it's probably worse than we thought.
White House confirms second strike against Caribbean drug smugglers | Fox News
And the headline makes it clear who the scapegoat is: Spec ops chief ordered deadly Caribbean strike ‘in self-defense’ with Hegseth’s sign-off, with this nugget:
QuoteThe White House said Monday that Hegseth authorized the second strike, but the head of U.S. Special Operations Command, Adm. Frank "Mitch" Bradley, ordered and directed it. At the time of the strike, Bradley was serving as the commander of Joint Special Operations Command, which falls under U.S. Special Operations Command.
That's got to make both Hegseth and Bradley paranoid.
And Bradley is making an appearance in front of Congress next week about the double strike.
Who is Adm. Frank Bradley, commander who issued second boat strike order
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24 minutes ago, Tuco said:
I’m not sure if the Dems win on this. End of the day, there are a lot of Americans who would cheer a President murdering drug runners. Duarte got pretty popular in the Philippines following that path, at least for a while. I think Hegseth is more hiding behind Bradley than throwing him under the bus. Bradley was promoted to this role during Trump’s time; he may be a MAGA believer. If Bradley stands behind the order, then the Dems need to attack Bradley to get to Trump or Hegseth. For the ignorant electorate, it’s easy for MAGA to message that as the left wing radicals attacking the patriotic military in defense of those narcoterrorist drug runners.
But, as with many battles, it needs to be fought even if you might get hurt.The wild card is that most of these people will not go down for each other.
Hegseth is paranoid and insecure on two levels. First, he and Trump lost their absolute shit when Kelly and the others put out that video. Called for their execution or prosecution. That is somebody getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar and now we know the cookie jar is Venezuela. Both Trump and Hegseth radiated guilt and Trump put it out there that Hegseth told him whatever he told him, so Trump has put it squarely on Hegseth's head. Hegseth knows MAGA will turn on anybody Trump says to turn on. Hegseth very clearly fears that some officer will go up in front of Congress and testify and that video scared him, and now he's couched the language he's using in reference to these strikes that he and Trump thought were popular. He thought that Franklin Turtle thing was cute, now he realizes it wasn't well-received.
The second level of insecurity is that Hegseth is still, at heart, an Army major. Him threatening to do a uniform inspection of Kelly was, as others have said, the most POG thing somebody in Hegseth's position could ever do. That was an Army major who has never held a major command and felt like he was disrespected and by gawd he's going to make the person pay.
Combine all of this with the fact that every day, Hegseth is surrounded by people who had far superior careers to him and that has to wear on him. Think about it - he makes major and is pushed into the Individual Ready Reserve, which is weird as fuck to me. He managed to get into the D.C. National Guard but wasn't allowed to participate in Biden's inauguration because of a dumbass tattoo. He only had about 10 years or actual military service, and part of that was National Guard, which great, kudos to him for joining, but at the end of the day, he had a very scattershot career with multiple gaps in service.
And you can bet plenty of Navy, Marine, Air Force, and probably even some Army senior officers all look down upon for him because his military career seems to have went nowhere, and they will all still think of him as a major that never held a large command and that was jumped up to Secretary of Defense.
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7 hours ago, Satchel said:
because everybody wants her crazy ass.
10 hours ago, tx ind said:She wasn’t MAGA enough for the campaign advisor and he’s loyal to Trump, hahahah
She can pull an MTG and hope she outlasts all of the shit that seems to keep coming out.
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1 minute ago, tx ind said:
We all know the answer to this. He’s likely a decent dude and the bullshit was absolutely tearing him up inside.
Even if he wasn't a decent dude, he probably saw where things were headed and wasn't going to take the fall. It was only a matter of time.
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Just now, Firemans4Horn said:
President has a 38% approval rating and falling, random MRI’s, and doesn’t know what year it is.
And doesn't know that he pardoned the President of Honduras who tried to help smuggle 400 tons of cocaine into the US.
And who was told by Hegseth that the two guys weren't killed, but if they were killed in a second strike, he wouldn't have done the second strike.
And a surprising number of people don't want war with Venezuela, and this is an off-ramp of sorts for Congress to stop it.
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Honduran president's bro wants to bring cocaine to US
in Daily Texan
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Pardoning Mr. Silk Road was all the proof they should have needed that he doesn’t care about drugs,
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