I don't see any way to connect his discord to his stable. He gave me his full name and his instagram account, it seems like he's a real person (or at least using a real person's info), but the horse is shown as being owned by someone else on Opensea: https://opensea.io/accounts/chain/matic/0xf7237c66330324d7e5786e8a5da1229b285fb54e
I don't know how that is possible? I've searched the Zed discord for mentions of a broker and it does seem like it's a real thing, but I don't know how it's possible that the same horse would show up as owned by someone else.
Here's the horse I'm trying to buy:
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/25064
This is the guy I've been chatting with on Discord about buying this horse for .3:
https://opensea.io/accounts/Markmadison
He's posted screenshots of his Zed account that show he has the horse in his stable, but it's not showing up in his Opensea account? He said he bought the horse from a guy on Discord and used a broker instead of opensea to avoid fees. .3 is a good price for this horse but I don't want to get skeezed out of money by someone who doesn't actually own the horse.
He posted a screenshot of the discord chat where the transaction went through last time:
What do y'all think? I don't see how the horse wouldn't be in his Opensea account if he really owned it, but I'm still a noob and don't fully understand how all of this connects.
Have you guys bought a horse from someone on the Zed discord? I found one I want and agreed a price with the seller, but instead of me just making an offer on Opensea he is talking about using a broker on Discord and selling it through there to avoid fees?
What in the actual fuck? That owner has other horses and has been active as well: https://opensea.io/accounts/chain/matic/RoidRagerRacing?tab=activity
@gyroprotagonist I agree with both of y'all that breeding must have been borked and looking at bloodlines doesn't really give any insight into how a horse came by it's traits. It all seems random. Your horse is looking pretty dang good so far I'd say.
Mine has the U shape performance nailed....except for 1st and 2nd place. https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/20802
I raced it a shit load this weekend and it has fallen all the way down to class V. I ran three class V races this morning so far and thought for sure his performance would improve at this class. Finished 3rd, 7th and 10th with the best odds being 10.47. Maybe if I can stay in class V for a while I can pick up a few more wins and 2nds to improve the U a bit more to sell this one. In looking at the fields in these level V races, I was surprised to see how many decent horses were in there.
I also see a lot of unrealistic pricing in the market for horses with shit odds and worse results than my own horse. There are a lot of mediocre horses for sale at .3+ I don't see how there will ever be a market for those horses at that price unless Zed continues to add tons of new users. I'd like to buy another horse, but finding value is a beating.
How many races do you think a horse needs before you can make a pretty educated assessment of its potential? 25 or so?
I just discovered this site as well: https://zedranks.com/horse/20802
It seems like a Zillow.com type of estimate for horse values.
Decent distribution for August Bloom through 22 races: https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/20802
Found out yesterday that he knows how to get last, now I need him to win a few more races to get the left side of my U going.
Here's your last place breeder gene, could be had for .13 at the moment:
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/7042
In 59 races it finished last 58% of the time, finishes in 11th or 12th 76% of the time and somehow manages to win 5% of its races!
Okay, I need to go outside and go fishing now, I've been sucked into the Zed wormhole today...
They are showing up on KYH, but not on Zedrun Tools, so maybe the did find a work-around:
https://zedrun.tools/horse/20802
It still shows 0 odds for the last two races.
August Bloom got 3rd in the first race I was in and 2nd in the race I was in with Ed's horse. I found the odds on the first race in the discord channel (16.09), but never saw the odds posted on my 2nd race in there. The odds did show up on KYH after the race was done though (22.42), so it seems like I just got lucky on these first two races and exceeded expectations.
I'm having some problems getting registered for races, I get an error message that says Network error, please try a different horse or gate. Anyone else getting that?
Same. I'm noodling to it in my office right now. I've always like RL Burnside, so I've been pretty excited to hear the rest of this one and it hasn't disappointed so far.
I think that's probably healthier for the whole marketplace long term, but I'm glad I could see the early odds on my 1st horse.
38 mins until my first race, never thought I would be so giddy about watching a fake horse race online...
@gyroprotagonist
That is a bad mofo for sure. Look at the parents on Steph Curry, not really anything special in their G race odds or racing results, but they still threw off a monster. I guess there is still a lot of this that is left to chance.
I sad F it and went ahead and pulled the trigger on this one:
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/20802
The transfer has gone through on opensea, but it hasn't showed up in my stable on Zed yet, I guess that takes a little time? I'm with you on 7 races not being enough to even know what this horse will wind up being, but I thought there was enough value in the G race odds to jump on it.
There's so much activity in that discord channel that I have a hard time keeping up.
I still have not had any response to my lowball offer on this horse: https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/7976
I'm thinking hard about buying a Z9 Genesis that had 5.95 odds in his G race, but has raced 7 times with the best finish being 3rd. Price is .26 ETH. Seem like a decent buy to y'all?
FOMO got the better of me and I made a low-ball offer on an unraced Z19 crossbreed.
The mare it was breed from is a Z3 Nakamoto with only its G race with 6.6 odds. The stallion only had it's G race too with 19.26 odds, so it's a crap shoot. I offered .1 and they seller hasn't been active on Opensea at all this week, so who knows when it will be accepted/rejected.
Agreed on being at a huge disadvantage. My first gut read is that my only hope if I've got an itchy trigger finger to get into the game is to buy an unraced horse with decent bloodline/zenotype and hope to get lucky.
Thank you all, great info. And thanks for the link @Nice Guy Eddie - I've been stumbling through the default opensea marketplace that had fuckall for filter options - this is so much better.