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  1. 20 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

    That’s the cloak room fantasy, not reality. 
     

    What you missed was a cut and dry self defense case with plenty of video to confirm being tried as murder for political purposes. You also missed the prosecution make fools of themselves because they had no evidence, only feelings and it showed. 

    Yay! One for the good guys amirite?

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  2. 15 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    How sure are we Sam would do well in this scheme? How do we know he would be healthy behind this offensive line?

       I mean, nothing is a guarantee but I personally think Sam was way better than even he showed here due to Herman's bullshit offense. Sam lost but Sam never folded. We all like to give credit to Herman for always keeping it close when in reality it was Sam. He was a fighter. He didn't have the strongest arm out there but damn if he didn't stand in there and make the throws.

      This year I am seeing more guys open here than I've seen in a long time. Zone beating routes. Natural picks. It's all on display every week and we are just missing them due to inexperience. When you walk up to a line as an experienced QB and see a particular alignment, you already know there are only a couple types of coverages it can morph into post snap(unless you are facing Muschamp). So you should have a pretty good idea where you will be open. Sark makes it easier by getting someone moving pre-snap to decipher man or zone. Regardless, we struggle with off script playmaking as well. Our QBs get pressure and their eyes come down and the play is effectively over. Sam made a lot of plays off the cuff. I can truly see how Sark could absolutely murder a defense with solid QB play and a decent run game. As bad as we have been on the line this year plays were still there to be made, if only we had a QB to make them. Both QBs heads are spinning right now. They seem to be trying to see it open instead of letting the coverage vs route concept dictate where to go. I can't remember who we were playing, but we had a zone beating concept on one side and a single receiver on the other. Watching Casey drop back and never look away from the single receiver told me everything I needed to know. It doesn't help that when we do finally make throws the receivers drop the ball ala Baylor.

     

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  3. 23 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    You neg repped my tribute to ‘fistful of yen’?   Nobody neg reps that short fiLm.  The fuck is wrong with you?  It was a pithy twist on the applause thing in court.  Maybe you didn’t laugh but it was a decent call back.  Are you seriously this unfunny in real life?

      That's all he does. Like it makes a shit.

  4. 16 hours ago, Hermanator said:

    That's exactly it. The culture is bad and Davis yelling to fucking portal means that staff knows they need to get quite a few guys to go to turn it around. 

    Sark may not seem like the best of HC but I believe in this staff moreso than any of Charlie or Herman's staffs. These are guys that have coached on title teams. Guys who have evaluated and recruited top talent who have heart and love the game and not just measurables. I believe they can turn it around and lay a winning foundation but it will take a lot of time. 

    This isn't basketball where you only need 7-10 dudes to go from shit to great. There's 44 dudes on just the two deep alone so much more complicated to get turned around. The best thing we can do is show patience. 

    We've been wandering the desert for 11 years. Instead of wandering 11 more let's commit to giving Sark and Co they time they need to get this built. Not changing coaches every few years and not publicly cutting the coach down and killing his recruiting ability. That's the only chance we have to get this turned around. 

      Exactly what I've been saying! Here here MFer!!!

  5. On 11/2/2021 at 12:37 PM, Snacks said:

    Imagine staring at it and working on it for hours (in between actual work). 

       Thanks for putting that on paper. This is why I've been soaping boxing that our recruiting rankings are false. We've lost so much to attrition and bad evals, and not just on the line. A lot of people don't take the time to go look, so that was very helpful. We will be better on the line next year, but the second someone goes down we are right back where we started again due to lack of depth.

      As far as the mysterious moves on the O-line go, I think Flood has to pick his poison. No move and you can run OZ to the right, which teams have adjusted to and shut down over the course of a game, but you get free interior rushers on your QB. The other you partially shore up the free interior rushers, but struggle across the board in the run game. The move hasn't worked because Casey seems officially shell-shocked, even though he had a better pocket to work with to start the game.

  6. 3 hours ago, Modessit said:

    Not going to quote the moron who says that "this doesn't work" as motivation.

    But I don't look at this as a motivational thing. This was a "Fuck Around and Find Out" speech. This was putting everyone on notice that their shit isn't being tolerated any more and if they can't put in the work and have the mindset we need then they better leave before we kick them out. Because we will.

    MFrs need to stop motherfuckering.

       "Bo Davis" was my first language as a child. I will translate. 

      Me and the other coaches been talking and we decided y'all MFers ain't shit, and we intend to find some MFers who are about they shit to replace y'all ain't shit MFers. Right now, we gotta roll with y'all ain't shit MFers in order to field a team, but rest assured, as soon as we can we bout to start putting these empty boxes in front of lockers, starting with the ain't shit MFer with the camera back there thinking he funny. Y'all MFers think its a game? This ain't no game. When you get in between my money and your scholarship you gonna fuck around and find out which one is more important to me, and the rest of these coaches around here, because we got bills to pay. The portal is the new plank MFers, and some of y'all about to walk it. You can do it on your own or with a gun at your back MFers, but either way MFers will be in it. Look around the bus. See these other coaches sipping tea and looking the other way? You got-damned right they don't give a damn about y'all MFers' feelings right now.

     

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  7. 5 hours ago, Azbadlands said:

    Come on man, we used to rag on Greg Davis to no end, and even he was smart enough to change schemes from Major to VY and Colt.  I mean, he didn't have Major running for 100 plus yards a game that I remember...

    I would think at the college level if you aren't  flexible or smart enough to change your schemes or at least parts of your schemes to fit your personnell then you aren't long for a serious job like UT...

    How hard is it to adjust and run a pretty basic defense like Ash was running with these guys last year?  

       What GD did wasn't a scheme change. They simply added a read option and ran their plays out of the gun. That's really it.  Pretty easy to install that.

       Now on defense that's a different story. A defense that has a 2 or 3 man front has completely different back end responsibilities than a defense that runs a single gap 4 man front. DCs spend their whole life building their defensive ideology to the point where its who they are, and pretty much run what they run until its no longer relevant, at which time they just drift away. That's why you see DCs getting replaced instead of them switching schemes. They can't. Greg Robinson was an old dude who ran a simple scheme that's easy to learn and great when your athletes are better than theirs. Chris Ash ran his 4-2-5 at all the schools he was at. Its just how it goes. They ad wrinkles but not wholesale changes. So if you don't like a guy you go get another guy.

     

  8. 1 hour ago, Azbadlands said:

     

    Diazes scheme never worked, he just had a bunch of well developed studs handed off to him from Muschamp or Robinson's first stint under Mack, can't remember which....

    So you're saying these coaches that have 3 years to earn a longterm gig here are going to come in and not try to develop a scheme for the players they have; but instead, try to fit square pegs in round holes?  They only have 3 years to get all the round pegs they need to fit all the holes.... If they had just went back and watched the basic defense that Ash had last season that was improving toward the end of last season, and implemented that, they would be sitting on more wins right now.  It doesn't mean they have to abandon the scheme they want to run.  They can slowly include it and build on it as they recruit the players they need for it...But, why abandon something that was working for something you think you can make work when you have the right pieces?  That's just called being locked in and stubborn...

    I mean, I understand the fanbase, boosters, etc should be more patient and allow coaches to prove themselves,  but that is just not reality...

      I don't know how much I have to say it but I will continue to do so until people get it. Coaches are their scheme. They don't change schemes because the scheme they run is what they know. They go from place to place installing it. PK isn't changing anything.

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  9.   Anyone here that has ever taken on a struggling business should see what's going on. Losses not only create apathy for the fans but the players too. Leadership has to rid the organization of the toxic people, empower the buyer's in, and turn the wait and sees. It takes a long time to do that. The other challenge is when the organization has gone through multiple leadership changes. People's confidence that the new leader will even be around leads to lack of buy in.

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  10. 16 minutes ago, bullet said:

    While I mostly agree with you, I still look at the Greg Robinson example.  He took Manny Diaz's disaster in mid-season and completely turned it around in 2 games.  He had a simpler scheme that the guys could figure out.  He took a bottom 20 defense and turned it into a top 20 defense in 2 games.

     

    2 minutes ago, HoustonHorn said:

    A bandaid. Sure, it would be easy to simplify the scheme and it probably would help some right now. Do we want a bandaid or do we want to actually fix the problem? I'd prefer to get players in and keep them in the same system for a few seasons to see what they can do once they truly grasp the system. I realize in this day and age of instant gratification, that's an unpopular opinion, but its the only way to truly fix things. It will be painful. Depending on who portals after the season, next years' defense may be just as bad as this year. But if the system works (and PK has a pretty good track record that it does), then for me its worth the short term pain to get it right.

      

       Greg Robinson didn't simplify Manny's scheme, it was a scheme change. From Manny's complicated 3 man fronts and light boxes to a simple one gap 4 man front which gave guys gaps they were responsible for. Less reading meant guys who struggled with diagnosis, like Steve Edmond, could just go eat. We also no longer ran light boxes, so we were man for man in the run game. It made us faster, and that's where our superior athletic ability showed. I have never been a fan of this era's love for 3-3-5's and such. The way we align our fronts makes it hard for them to get after the QB. Hard to beat a man head up, but split him out a little and things change dramatically. I think a lot of our guys up front would eat if they could just attack gaps. But here we are.

      Offensively we are fine we just gotta see and hit what's there. Soooo many dudes running wide open. I can see a scenario where we can get a couple portal guys and shore up our problems on that side of the ball if Bijan and X don't portal out. Decent QB play and one decent lineman is all we need. Defense might need a longer look though.

     

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Had Enough said:


    Nope.

    QB.

    I’ve gone back and watched much of the BU game. Three negatives/no gain runs. None due to the Oline missing a block. The TE was late coming off the double. This potentially could have been the OT, but the TE reacted and the tackle was covered then engaged. One was the corner blitz. One on one tackle. Another was the damn safety in the backfield. No one to account for him.

    Pass pro pretty solid. Sometimes it’s one free or semi-free rusher. And sometimes it’s the RB not doing the job. That was the case versus OSU too.

    Versus BU, there was a gimme 6 right down the middle, but we threw wide to Moore into double coverage. Tv didn’t show that on replay so unless they replayed it later you gimps watching TV never saw it. That screen attempt versus BU on the last drive. That’s on the QB. Give ground to get a half second more.

    The only shitshow pass pro was certain series in the 2nd half versus OU. At least with Thompson. Now we do like to completely whiff too often, but that’s not enough to make a QB skiddish. He’s taken very few big hits.

    I think it was two of the first three series vs ISU that ended with a throw in the dirt. Plenty o time to make a play. Missed a wide open Worthy for 6. Intentional grounding cause the QB wouldn’t throw it then rolls right into traffic.

    That said we have many issues. QB touches the ball every play. Guys are open. A lot. Not just receivers either. Great QB play can overcome inadequacy elsewhere.

      This is why I said the biggest loss for this team was Sam. We are a different team if Sam is here. 1 maybe 2 losses.

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  12. 2 hours ago, Eggo said:

    I know this is a popular narrative amongst those who want to paint with broad strokes, but Alabama has one 5* o-lineman on their 2 deep. 

     

    Pos Player 1 Recruit Rate Player 2 Recruit Rate
    OFFENSE
    WR-X Metchie III, John JR 4 Hall, Agiye FR 4
    WR-Z Williams, Jameson JR/TR 4 Holden, Traeshon SO 4
    WR-H Bolden, Slade RS JR 3 Earle, JoJo FR 4
    LT Neal, Evan JR 5 Kight, Amari RS SO 4
    LG Cohen, Javion SO 4 Brown, Tommy RS JR 4
    OC Dalcourt, Darrian JR 4 Owens, Chris RS SR 4
    RG Ekiyor Jr., Emil RS JR 4 Roberts, Jaeden FR 4
    RT Owens, Chris RS SR 4 Randolph, Kendall RS SR 4
    TE Latu, Cameron RS JR 4 Tennison, Major RS SR 4
    QB Young, Bryce SO 5 Tyson, Paul RS SO 4
    RB Robinson Jr., Brian RS SR 4 Williams, Roydell SO 4

     

    2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

    lot of those 4 star guys are probably 0.97-0.98.  Borderline 5 stars vs 0.89

     

    2 hours ago, Eggo said:

    Do you even bother to check before you say things? Mean OL rating is .93, median is .93. Same is true for the whole Offense 2-deep.

    Their starting LG is .89, starting RT .92. Their backup RT is officially listed as a TE. 

     

    Biggest difference you can spot between our OL roster is depth. Alabama has 20 OL on the roster, mostly 4* and capable of playing. 

    Texas only has 17 OL, many 3*, and few ready for action. 

     

    11 minutes ago, hornchaud said:

    ^^^^THIS

    And the tired narrative of "well we had a good class, but where are they now?"  What team has an intact recruiting class from 3 years ago on the 2-deep? 

    Missing on evaluations, failure to develop, medical retirements happen at EVERY.DAMN.PROGRAM.  This is not something unique to Texas.  The issue here is the neverending focus on the skill positions in an era where the offense and defense are built from the inside-out.  Alabama has very mediocre skill position players this season, but continues to perform at a high level because of their line experience.  Notice they have exactly ONE sophomore (and no FR) on their starting OL.  

    It's understandable that being "O-line U" isn't as glamourous as "DB U" or "QB U," but having a 5* RB means nothing if they can't get out of the backfield.  SEC teams have figured out how to recruit and develop the lineman.  Texas has not.

      O-line development is dependent upon a D-line that can push them. You cannot learn how to defend Kyrie Irving's crossover by playing the little neighbor boy in your driveway. That's the current problem I see. People wonder why the mid 2000's O-lines were solid, it's because look who was playing across from them. As our talent along the D-line has waned so has our ability to play up front. It's all circular. Face Von Miller in practice everyday and John Smith from Baylor seems like a cakewalk.

       

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  13. 1 hour ago, horngasm22 said:

    can we get Bo Davis to yell at 7 valium Steve, to "motivate" him to make some adjustments at halftimes since $5 million doesn't seem to be working...

      Head ball coach doesn't need to be the asshole, just needs to have one on salary and empower them. Muschamp was the asshole guy when he was here while Mack was clapping on the sideline. Defense was fucking salty. Texas played angry and inspired back then.

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  14. 10 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

    Have you ever looked at the big 12 records year by year? lol. In 2018 two teams won 10 games or more and we won our 10th by winning our bowl game so that's an outlier honestly. In 2019 there were two teams that won 10 games or more. In 2020 not a single team won 10 games in the big 12. Covid year but iowa state played 12, both oklahoma teams played 11 so the conference kinda blows after oklahoma bud. The difference in us and them is that for 4 years under herman we chased stars and not scheme fits. The other top teams in the big 12 recruit to match their scheme and have been doing that consistently for years. If you recruit a kid like alfred collins for example and play him in a position he's not built for it doesn't matter if he gets better physically he will never look better on the field. 

       This is the problem and a lot of posters will discount it but damn if it isn't accurate.

       Overshown was recruiting as a safety but ended up 6'4 by the time he hit campus. He was too big for safety, so they moved him to linebacker. He was too skinny for linebacker and even now only weighs 220 at 6'4, plus is playing a position he never played. Alfred Collins should be a 3tech and just let him eat in the B gap. He could be disruptive. There are so many examples of these kinds of bad fits all across the defense, and the team as a whole.

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  15. 50 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

    Everyone saying that this needs to stay between the team is only looking at it from one dimension in my opinion.  Now that these players know that the entire fanbase, hell even opposing fanbases know about this, I would think/hope it would actually carry some weight.  I'm sure there have been these conversations in the past that have "stayed on the bus or airplane" and it hasn't done fuckall.  We'll see.

    4D chess if the player that leaked it intended to put pressure on the players by firing up the fanbase.

     

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  16. 12 hours ago, Eggo said:

    Lamar Jackson only ended up at Louisville because Bobby Petrino was the only school to promise he'd be a QB. No chance Charlie and Shawn Watson pull off that recruitment and Charlie would have been fired after Teddy graduated.

      This is not necessarily true. Charlie recruited well at Louisville which is what we thought he would do here. He had all kinds of pull in Florida. Weirdly, he never developed that with the Texas high school coaches. But Florida? That guy could pull 5 stars, and Jackson was a Florida kid.

  17. 3 hours ago, hpslugga said:

    Hell, dial it back and ask yourself who starts for OU or OSU. There are players who would, but I’ll tell you who it’s not. It’s literally none of the interior players on either side of the ball. If anyone was watching this OL and thought “oh this is just Greg Davis squandering talent all over again,” one would be living in Bizarro World.

    We’re watching a fairly mobile QB getting constantly harassed almost every time he drops back (which is what’s led him to do his best impressions of Patrick Mahomes when he runs around and forces some ball into coverage) and literally the best RB in the country not being able to spring into the second level because there’s nowhere for him to go. I said it a while ago on one of my Grading threads, but I’ve never seen such a contrast in talent than what we see here between the offensive skill players and the offensive linemen. 

      This post is pretty solid!

     

       I really do not know why everyone is losing their minds here when its pretty cut and dry whats happening.

     

    1) O-line cannot hold blocks for any decent amount of time. Someone almost always comes free quickly. Bijan is a big part of the problem too.

    2) QBs have been getting popped all season and they are in full PTSD mode.

    3) Our two best receivers are less than 170lbs, and need longer routes to get free from physical defenders. This circles back to the line struggling to block leading to QBs already giving up on the play when the receivers come free.

    4) We get stoned at snap and cannot get blockers to the second level on the line. OZ works for a quarter or so and then teams adjust and it starts creating negative plays.

    5) D-line is slow and fat. We used to have tall physically imposing dudes who struck fear in opponents and could run you down sideline to sideline. Now our D-line struggles with anything requiring them to redirect.

    6)The back end of the defense is OK, but is being asked to defend for way too long due to not being able to get pressure on the QB. You can be aggressive if you know you only have to cover for 3 seconds. Not when every play the opposing QB is running around free back there like Aaron Rodgers.

    7) LBs are being asked to do too much and thus failing. D-line is not eating up blocks so LBs are having to fight through blocks to get home. This causes them to guess a lot to avoid people getting hands on them. They guess wrong and we are here bitching, but if they were kept clean they would be adequate.

     

        And even though we have all these problems if we just had Sam here we would've still won a lot of those games down the stretch. I don't think people appreciate how tough Sam was and how much fight he had in him. He willed us to wins in a lot of games and fought to the end in the ones we lost. That's the biggest loss in all of this. Sam was really good. Too bad he couldn't of played for us right after Colt. We would kept rolling with him.

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  18. 7 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

    You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

    Exactly 100% my point. We are Michigan.

  19. Just now, utee94 said:

    Alabama did the same thing until they hired Saban.  Oklahoma did the same thing until they hired Stoops.  This isn't unique to Texas.  Things keeps on sucking, until the right guy is hired.  

      It's not the same at all. Those organizations allow their leaders to run the program. Win at all costs. Texas has never allowed what has gone on at those schools to fly here. Simple as that.

     

    Just now, Blotto said:

    That entire paragraph is bullshit. Is it your contention that Nebraska decided it no longer wanted to win after Osborne. Do you think USC decided after 4 "meh" coaches to support Carroll, only to reverse course after he left? Do you think the fans or athletic admin at Bama would have given a shit if the coaches before Saban decided to "over recruit and cut the guys who are lesser". Do you believe that UGA actively prohibited Richt from doing what Smart does today? I think the answer to each of those questions is "fuck no".

    Coaches change the culture. 

       Nebraska had the rug pulled from under them with Prop 48 and has never recovered. USC was cheating and finally got busted. Before then USC was great because they were one of the first teams to play black athletes, and continued to have more black athletes than anyone else. We can do this all day, but Texas would've never allowed Osborne to recruit the players he did here. Same with what was happening at OU. Same with what Saban does. Same thing at Ohio State. We aren't them. We are Michigan, a school a tier down from them due to our belief structure and business model.

     

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  20. Just now, Blotto said:

    And for some reason, he now seems determined to match those results when leading at the half, lulz.   

      Those are both one and the same. But there are layers to it. Is he bad at adjustments or good at gameplanning?

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