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  1. 4 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

    We're gonna have to agree to disagree re: whether Manning would be better with a better line in front of him and whether he can make short/intermediate throws.  But I've got the tape from his two starts last season to back me up, whereas you have . . . your faulty recollection.  In that regard, I notice that you didn't bother to address the throw from last year's MSU game that I specifically called out.  That was a beautiful throw, and it's proof positive that he has the ability to do more than simply (as you contend) throw it deep.

    The two aspects of your post with which I can agree are your statements that "[h]e isn't just the problem" and that "he is absolutely a problem . . ."       

    @Dahobbs has the Georgia game. You know, the only game we got to see Arch play vs a legit P4 opponent. How did he look? 

  2. 13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    So how does his experience last year show this year? I’m not seeing much correlation here. But sure, let’s keep talking about last year because it’s definitely helping him be one of the worst p4 QBs. 

    Give it up Burnt. None of these dudes learned their lesson from the Mack Brown days where we hung 60 on UNT and everyone was chest bumping until OU hung 60 on us. They seem to think what we looked like vs teams that could barely win a game all season hold any merit for how we played vs anyone with a pulse. 

  3. 15 minutes ago, NoName said:

    Don't be fucking obtuse.

    26/31 for 325 yards and 2 TD plus another on the ground.

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401628378/mississippi-st-texas

    You realize Miss St won two games last year right, and neither was a p4 win? They didn't win a conference game at all. If you watch the Georgia video you see exactly what you are seeing this year. Im not being obtuse. I just dont give a lot of weight to tomato cans. 

  4. 1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    Can we stop talking about Arch last year as if it has any fucking relevance to the piece of shit product we’re seeing this year?

    I just wanna know what they are talking about. Are they really talking about the sacrificial lambs we played leading up to playing real opponents as evidence? 

  5. 1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

    When the OL is not blocking anyone, your throws are rushed. Arch looked amazing with much better OL play last year and he sucked when the OL didn't hold against UGA. It's hard to draw a conclusion on how good or bad Arch will be in college when you have virtually no OL. These big humans are confused and letting a free rusher or two by on every down. Fix the OL first because no other QB is going to light it up with this OL.

    When did he look amazing last year? Seriously? 

  6. 8 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

    What’s the downside of that offense? Or in other words why is Sark running offense A while Kiffin runs offense B given they both hung out under Saban?

    People like what they like and believe what they believe in. Why did the pirate like the air raid? Who knows. I think Sark sticks with his offense because kids like to play in the pro style because they believe it will get them to the league. He has changed it in the past if you know his story. 

  7. 10 minutes ago, Zeus said:

    Damn I saw the stats and thought he came in and played ok

     really it was one prayer that got caught eh

    Lol. Thats how averages work Zeus. Funny. When Arch threw a deep ball against MSU while getting hit we were told that it was something Ewers would or could never do. Then Ewers does it in the NFL and its a "prayer". Lol. 

  8. 9 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

    I’m fascinated by the contrast in situations between Kiffin at Ole Miss and his QB, vs Sark and Arch.  

    Every play, Kiffin right before the snap tells the QB where to go with the ball. If the defense doesn’t completely disguise its coverage, presumably the play has a high chance of success. Ole Miss is scoring points. 

    However, to win a title your QB needs to be able to read coverages, because sooner or later you will run into well disguised defenses. I don’t know why Smart did so poorly at it yesterday. 

     

    4 and 5 wide make it difficult to disguise defenses. The defense has to get to their assignments with so many receivers on the field spread from sideline to sideline. Thats why offenses like that have such high completion percentages. 

  9. 18 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

    We are 6-0 with Quinn Ewers, 3 NFL offensive linemen, 1 NFL tight end, 1 NFL running back, 3 NFL wide receivers, and yall are still complaining he cannot hit the deep ball

    Lol. So there are no future NFL linemen, receivers, TEs, or backs on this roster is what you are saying? We lost NFL guys in 22, 23, and 24. Each time we retooled with lesser players and each time we continued to win. We started the season with an underwhelming Ohio State that scored 14 points and a loss to a Florida team that just fired their coach. We haven't even gotten to the good teams yet but we are supposed to believe that there is no way Ewers could win behind this line. Completely silly. I want Arch to play but part of me wants another guy to come in just long enough so you can see that this line isnt nearly as bad as you guys think it is. 

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  10. 37 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

    That’s a bold statement when you throw in probably 7-8 more turnovers minimum on self sacks fumbles, just sacks with a lot of extra yards lost with him back there, definitely more int, with this line.  

    A bold statement? Lol. You guys act like every week we are playing the 2000's Ravens defense. Then the very next week that same defense gets shredded by a much worse team than ours. You want teams to stop blitzing with reckless abandon? Get the ball out quickly. You know who does that? Quinn Ewers. We had a shitty line last year too. LG was an issue. Cam Williams was a turnstile at PB and only got drafted because he is a physical specimen. Most of Ewers sacks came in 3 games and even then he was a superior QB to what we are getting from 16. Last game you saw what a serious effort to get the ball out can do to help stimy a real good front 7 and then you act as though the guy who lived off of the quick game would somehow struggle against a worse Kentucky team than we played last year because of what Arch did. Come on bro. 

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  11. 9 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    I'm sorry you can't look a little deeper into it. 

    Arch is a part of the problem. But he would have to be elite for this offense to be functional and consistent. There is so much failure and lack of execution all over the offensive side of the ball, and two things can be true at once. 

     

    We had the same problems last year and we blamed the quarterback. 

  12. 2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    I understood.  Thought it was an interesting point and very possibly valid.  Every now and then, things line up for him and he executes a pretty great throw.

    I know you did Twice, but a lot of lurkers may not so i chose to elaborate. And you are correct. When things align for him he shows his abilities. 

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  13. 8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    And instead of working off the successful game manager performance, Sark went back to hero ball and set up Arch to fail again, outside of a few crucial open throws he absolutely needs to complete. 
     

     

    What is it you think Sark did different from last game to this game? 

  14. 30 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

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    So, is he a football dumbshit or over-coached.  There have been some allusions to all the coaches in his ear, relatives, private coaches, our staff.

    I dont mean he doesn't know the plays at all. He can call the plays. I mean he doesn't know them so well that he can see them in his head during the game. He is calling the play and then walking to the line and seeing blank. He doesn't see a defensive player moving and say to himself "that means x or y is open". He cant recall what x or y was supposed to do until he sees them do it. 

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  15. 24 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    Bro. I honestly think this dude just doesn't know the plays bro. Lol. It seems obvious to me. Anything that dude can see or truly knows, like a deep ball, he is accurate as hell. He is accurate when its scramble drill time. He is only inaccurate when its in the confines of the offense. Anyone who played sports knew a guy who didnt have the plays down. Whether it was he didnt study or was plane just dumb. I honestly this Arch just doesn't know the plays and therefore plays with zero anticipation. 

    Plain

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  16. 2 minutes ago, Drew said:

    Based on what?  
     

    look I know you we all think Sari has issues. But arch isn’t completing basic college level passes.  
     

    That’s not coaching or scheming guys open(sark has done that). 
     

    maybe Kane improved mechanics…but a coach can’t make a guy a better processor. Not be late on throws. How he sees the field.

    This is not a “the coach is making arch worse because he’s not calling the right plays” situation. 
     

    he didn’t evaluate the QB properly and allowed the OL and Weapons to become less the elite when he should have done better. 

    Bro. I honestly think this dude just doesn't know the plays bro. Lol. It seems obvious to me. Anything that dude can see or truly knows, like a deep ball, he is accurate as hell. He is accurate when its scramble drill time. He is only inaccurate when its in the confines of the offense. Anyone who played sports knew a guy who didnt have the plays down. Whether it was he didnt study or was plane just dumb. I honestly this Arch just doesn't know the plays and therefore plays with zero anticipation. 

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  17. 1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

    Being easier on Arch isn't saying that he's good. In fact, my post never said that he is. I mainly commented on what appeared to me to be a goal when the game started. Release fast no matter what and accuracy will follow. The former didn't last long and the latter never happened. I watched the game, and, while not nearly as astute as you, I could see what you do. 

    I've got to remember that it's all or nothing around here. If you look at my posts from earlier in the season, and I don't know why anybody would, you will see that I was a ridiculed proponent of the notion that he was not performing at even nearly a competent level, and, if it were to continue, we should give someone else a try. I'm still there.

    Performance is everything.

    Here is the thing bro. I dont think its all that serious. I will post what I think it is in another post in a second. 

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  18. 1 minute ago, B00M said:


    drag routes are off the table. Just brutal. 

    Didn’t Herman give Ehlinger almost nothing but curls in the middle of the field? 

    Hard to remember that far back but I do remember his routes he threw to being high schoolish. You are right though. Certain routes need to be off the table. Maybe revisit it when his processing picks up but right now....nay

  19. 4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Thinking about it, I actually think it is the same problem we saw against Ohio State. Arch processes slow, but when he does see where to throw the ball he then rushes the throws. With screens, Arch knows where the ball is supposed to go, so he rushed the screen rather than let it develop.

    I think you are 100% correct on your observation. But where do you go from here is the question? 

  20. 1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

    Yeah, it was clear Tre had a limited pitch count. I don't understand why we did just use Simon instead of not running. But I also don't understand why when we did run, we choose shit like that nonsense first play of OT. The team showed it could run outside zone and inside zone. Why not do that? 

    They had the box loaded up pretty good so I think Sark was simply playing the numbers. I dont think he truly has let it sink in that he just can't run the offense the way he wants to. He has to dust off his ole Jake Locker playbook. Spread. Rudimentary route combos. Run and run some more even with the QB. That is what Ole Miss is doing. I think he's had so much success that he expects his players to simply adapt to him and not the other way around. Its clear Arch cannot run his offense. So let's find out what he can run. 

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  21. 5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Arch sucks at throwing screens. He either floats it the receiver, giving the defense a ton of time to blow it up or throws it immediately before it can develop, usually rifling it somewhere that takes away all the receivers momentum.  We ran like 10 against OU and all but maybe 2 went for negative or short yardage. 

    You are 100% correct and most of Surly just doesn't see it. Good screens require good timing. Don't look over there until its time. Accurate ball placement gives the runner a  chance to make someone miss. We seem to look and throw too soon or throw something requiring an adjustment and thereby killing momentum. 

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  22. 2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    A very large part of it is Arch's inability to consistently throw short passes. Another very large part of it is game plan. Outside zone feasted against OU. We didn't run it all against Kentucky. What the fuck are we trying to do on offense? Regardless, if Arch just hits the wide open hot reads, teams would have to stop blitzing. 

    I said during the game it appeared they were intentionally not running Tre, IE a pitch count. Something is going on there and Sark is notorious for keeping a small circle with his skill guys. He needs to get these young guys going so they can help take the pressure of Tre. Have you noticed under Sark that every RB that has done well here we found by accident? When we had no choice. He needs to quit being stubborn with his skill guys. Find a use for Niblet who is great with the ball in his hands. Quit trying to force fucking Wingo to be the dude when 13 is better than him. 

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