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20 minutes ago, Enchubben said:I think for many young conservatives, he taught them to have courage to stand up for what they believe in and to fight for your values. He engaged in discourse with those that have opposing viewpoints in a public manner (most of the time in settings that are less than welcoming to conservative viewpoints) rather than from behind a keyboard or on edited cable news. I'm sure you'd agree that his values and ideologies are challenged by many, and publicly expressing and defending those viewpoints takes courage, even if you don't agree with them. I would also argue amongst his followers he also instilled a sense of purpose in young people emphasizing marriage, family, faith, personal responsibility and yes, patriotism. And in a time where half the country calls most conservatives fascist, this dude went about it the right way through open discussion. Ironically, instead of silencing him, assassinating the man in front of his wife and kids and thousands of students will make his message that much more popular amongst young voters.
I don't think the man deserves a national holiday, but every generation seems to have a watershed sort of event (JFK, MLK, Challenger Explosion, 9/11 etc.) that forever changes them. I think this will be one of those events for this generation even if he isn't celebrated individually.
No. He taught them to be raging bigots, and that it's okay to say vile, racist shit to people. Proof? My daughter is now in another state because she could not take the racism at her school. We've already been in the news once recently for bullying a middle school kid through racist texts. So she is left to finish her senior year elsewhere. Her hispanic friend told us kids at school thought it was funny to tell her they were going to call ICE on her even though her family has been here for generations and her dad is an MIT grad. These are your church going conservative kids that Kirk is grooming.
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1 hour ago, Zeus said:
Sure you can pick and choose what you want to believe from the government and media.
When more and more evidence comes out you can keep believing whatever regarded narrative suits you bud
When more and more evidence comes out.....lol. They already know. They are simply trying to craft a narrative. They've had this dude's electronics for days and spoken to all close to him. I wonder why it's so silent Zeus?
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4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:
Troll culture, man.
The internet has fucked this country up six ways to Sunday.
Tell me about it. My daughter had a brief time of struggle during elementary school. I was in her phone and stumbled on some dark places. Luckily we were involved enough to get the ship righted.
1 minute ago, coachherman'sgrill said:It's always because they are so closeted. Always.
It's not just that they are closeted my friend. It's that they are closeted and from conservative backgrounds where they were told homosexuality is of the devil. These kids are walking around feeling like abominations instead of getting the love and support they deserve. Our resident right wingers cannot seem to understand that. All they see is a blue haired kid and immediately attack the left instead of attacking their conservative kids for not letting them be who they are. It's sad really. If they were born in liberal, supportive families this shit wouldn't happen.
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3 hours ago, Zeus said:
I love when people think they know something. Nick Fuentes is gay. In fact Fuentes and Destiny supposedly had a leaked sex video out there though I am not looking for it. Nick briefly dated a catboy named catboycami. He even made a video explaining how he was forced to abandon catboy.
Here is Fuentes on a video'd date with CatboyKami. In my efforts to put this together google returned explicit pics of him sucking a huge black dildo.
Here is what Grok say if you ask it if Fuentes is Gay
Here is a thread where they expose Nick's love for Transgirls and femboys. Scroll down.
Again. These extremist don't always follow the path that you think or want them to. So if the leader of the Groypers can have sex with transwomen and men, why are you trying to use the shooter's roommate as proof this dude wasn't influenced by groypers? Clearly by the language on the ammo and some of his meme costumes he was. Also the silence from leadership, who want nothing more but to pin this on someone is telling.
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5 minutes ago, 'stache said:
The part that really sticks out to me is that the report at the time he was identified said that the FBI had spoken to the dad and to the roommate, and that the roommate showed the FBI the Discord server that showed the perp talking about the gun (or something to that effect). If the roommate was trans and a romantic partner to the shooter, and the motiviation was in support of the trans lover/roommate, why would that person cooperate with the FBI to get him caught? Why didn't the initial report indicate this pretty key peice of evidence re motive? It really does not add up, at all, especially since it's obvious what the administration would prefer with respect to motive. If they had evidence of this connection, the FBI would have had a full dog and pony show about it by now.
100% my feelings as well. The silence is deafening.
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18 minutes ago, Texas Fight said:
I’m sure he has a phone. I’ve read a few places that Robinson is not cooperating. I think it’s fairly difficult to for authorities to access an iPhone without passcode, etc…..
Lol. No its not. This is the FBI. They got in that phone and didn't find the narrative they wanted. You think this admin hasn't thrown the full weight at this? FBI? NSA? Come on friend. Its silent for a reason.
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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:
So we are on Day 4 now since Tyler Robinson was arrested. Where are the actual updates and evidence on motive outside of vague sources from the FBI that have trickled out to the press? What's taking so long?
Thats how you know it doesn't fit the narrative they want.
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3 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:
So crime of passion? Shooter feels girlfriend was disrespected so murders man in front of his wife and kids.
So many people are running with the trans angle with not a single shred of evidence the roommate was trans. However, there are quite a few pics of this person with animal headgear suggesting the roommate is a furry. This tracks with the groyper angle. The kid obviously put those memes on the ammo to be seen, and with the intent to communicate with a subculture that would know what it meant. Many of you olds may not know this but Nick Fuentes, the leader of the Groypers, is gay. And it's not really a big secret. So anything is possible.
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1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:
Sitting on the train thinking about how the debates even work? Kirk seemed to adjust quickly, but he’s going against 19 year olds who don’t know shit about fuck. I wonder if there’s a run of show to keep a rein on certain topics.
Once he’s off the leash on his podcast, things get hairy.
Not interested/am somewhat terrified of Matt Walsh’s fuckery.
Here is Nick Fuentes, of all people, breaking down how Kirk funnels the questions into predetermined arguments vs 18 year old kids that know nothing about the subject to get clicks.
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7 minutes ago, royiv said:I’m the definition of generic white guy, a moniker that my wife has bestowed upon me with affection, and I also don’t get it. It’s just a lack of humanity to me.
I truly do not know what they offer. When I was young I used to think it was fiscal. But as time passed, and each R ran us into recession after recession, I realized I am not exactly sure what the draw is. My only conclusion is identity politics, but I've been assured by so many that isn't it.
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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:If I had literally any power to change what’s acceptable in either of the parties I’d do it yesterday. I’m an adult and forced to deal with people and organizations that I disagree with every fucking day.
Till then I try to make an informed decision on each vote I make.
And that's the thing, as an ethnic person, I do not understand. What does making an informed decision look like for you? What are you prioritizing? For me I am prioritizing mine and my family's personal safety first and foremost. Is this person I am voting for going to be hostile to me or people I love? If I can check that box then I move on from there. So obviously for me, a black guy with a teenage daughter, the Republican party is out in box number one. I try to imagine what it would be like to be white, and what my first box would be. I feel like I would still be concerned with my wife and daughter's well being first and foremost. How does one arrive at "I am okay with people like Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes being influential to my kids as long as the party does XYZ". I am being honest when I say I do not understand it. I feel like I would want that gross ideology as far away from my family as I can get it.
For us black people, conservatives have been a danger to us since 1865. We can be counted on to support whichever party the conservatives ARE NOT in. The few blacks that vote alongside conservatives are largely the self-loathing blacks(Candace Parker). The rest of us vote for self preservation first, and THEN we look at the issues second.
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Just now, Da Fino said:
Have you considered doing that to yourself?
Whoa! What are we doing here fella?
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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:The stuff about “blacks being better off in the 40’s”, “black airline pilots concerned” among others are fucked up.
I do have a serious question for you friend. As a black man there is no way I can answer this. Why, if you find that ideology repulsive, do you allow it in your party? I was saying this to a guy I know earlier today. People like Kirk, Fuentes, and Loomer are the reason Black people will never give you more than 10=12% even though the Dems never do shit for us. Black people are largely conservative, but the rhetoric coming from your loudest prevent the community from signing on.
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6 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
I disagree with many of his comments around race and gender. Are you expecting a word by word breakdown of his quotes by me?
Specific ones would be nice. Yes
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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
It's allowing the quick passing game to open up for teams as well which I think in turn is not giving us the extra time to get home with sacks.
Yep you gotta force teams to hold onto the ball. Otherwise what are we doing here? Waiting for them to miss wide open receivers because it works in practice?
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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:
Not complaining but just a general observation is that we're back to playing off of receivers more often now.
I noticed that and was not happy.
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3 hours ago, Incredulity said:
Some can. Many obviously can’t
Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer called Kirk's brand bs. Fuentes even went and broke down Kirk's bit and called him fake. Your own people said that. Good enough for them. Good enough for me.
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52 minutes ago, Enchubben said:
This is correct. The right feels the exact same way fwiw.
To your second point, this is why this is so upsetting to moderate conservatives and moderate liberals. He was doing exactly that, trying to have conversations with young people in environments where challenging people’s views is supposed to be championed; and he was killed for it.
Here is Nick Fuentes, the leader os the Groypers, a guy who is as right wing as right wing can be, laying out what Charlie Kirk was really doing with his college visits. Everyone here should have a listen to a guy from THEIR SIDE pulling the curtain back on Kirk. Start at the 4:40 mark.
Also here is Nick Fuentes saying Charlie Kirk has become a huge White Supremacist but he remains a Jew lover.
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and lastly here is Nick Fuentes calling to arms his Groyers against Kirk. Coded language of course.
So if one of the most right wing personalities out there can see through Kirk's schtick........why can't you?
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5 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:
UTEP wasn't really selling out to stop the run. They started to compress the field as the game went on but this wasn't schematically UTEP trying to take away the run. This was a mediocre line getting limited by a good but under talented DL or front 7. UTEP's strength was their front 7 and Sark tried to run right at them and enforce Texas' identity as a physically dominant running team. We failed until we got Arch into the running game and found James Simon and even then, it was just solid. This OL is not really very good right now. Not saying they're a shitshow but again, vs a team like UTEP, expectations should be YPC close or around 5. Need better efficiency per play. We didn't get it and with Sark's odd game plan, Arch was set up with a bunch of 3rd and 4th and long or mid in the first half, which is just fucking weird. First 4 drives, every sequence of new downs began with a run except for 1..... the drive we scored a TD. By the time we tried to force the ball downfield (with little to no creativity), Arch had already gotten in his head with that horrendous INT.
The last couple years we seem to struggle with undersized front 7 that are quick enough to beat us to our spots. Then we play Clemson and aggy and run all over them. I think the line doesn't know what to do with a squatty player that is hard to get leverage on. Interested to see how we look in SEC play.
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2 minutes ago, Enchubben said:
This is correct. The right feels the exact same way fwiw.
To your second point, this is why this is so upsetting to moderate conservatives and moderate liberals. He was doing exactly that, trying to have conversations with young people in environments where challenging people’s views is supposed to be championed; and he was killed for it.
Yeah, just trying to have conversations right?
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16 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:
The only way to have empathy for right wingers in this environment is to realize they are being fed nothing but misinformation/disinformation through their social media feeds, algorithms, and conservative news sources. The ability to curate information was a disastrous development.
And we're not able to have fruitful conversations about this with our friends and family to make a difference. But I'm gonna keep trying.
Man, I feel for some of you. I only have to deal with my wife's parents and they barely come around. I couldn't imagine dealing with a whole family of right wingers day after day. Exhausting.
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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:
Ewers being awful has nothing to do with Manning also being awful.
I will take "Ewers awful" for 500 Alex. 3-0 and headed back to the playoffs.
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6 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:
Not disagreeing but think we have to throw the WR screen out until we can block it. It is either a loss of yardage or it’s in the dirt because he can’t hit those either
Quoted for absolute truth. No one has that dog in them. These receivers seem to be taking their Qs from Wingo.
Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)
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