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2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:
My guess is that they realized they might get dropped in the rankings if they didnt keep some continuity of staff and so they brought back Weiss because Kiffin was a bridge too far with the bad blood.
Yep. It's a huge fucking difference in the CFP committee's perception of Ole Miss as a playoff team. They might not go far without Kiffin at the helm, but their odds are a hell of a lot better with at least Weiss calling the plays. Ole Miss is in.
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39 minutes ago, Crockett said:
Probably not. It's the flagship program. Seems to be an unwritten rule, but other BYU sports have had non-LDS head coaches, so not unheard of. Would take a unique individual to be non-LDS and make the cut for HC of the football program.
Pretty sure BYU would hire a Scientologist.
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1 hour ago, yoladu said:i know it's been mentioned, but the mariachi band literally drained all the energy in the stadium Friday night. it was palpable.
Mariachi bands have their time and place. A football game teetering on the edge is not one of them.
I thought that maybe a party in a suite hired the mariachi band to play for someone as a birthday surprise, and then they told the band, "Hey, there's a big football game going on out there. Want to play for the crowd during a break?"
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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
Hint for the reader: if you are over the age of 50 and someone asks you "would you like to take a cognitive test?", it is NOT because they think you are a very stable genius. If anyone asks you that, you should be very worried.
Weird. My wife asks me that all the time.
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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:
Agreed. I hated seeing FSU get left out due to the QB getting hurt. They were 13-0 after all. I would've had no big issue with them getting in as long as it was FSU vs Bama for the fourth spot and not FSU vs Texas as we feared. Fortunately, the H2H with Bama appears to have been a factor but Travis getting hurt might've just given the committee the out it was looking for. It would've been criminal for Bama to be in the Final 4 and not Texas. The issue was that FSU getting in effectively gave somebody a huge advantage in the semifinal, if not a full-on "bye" to reach the championship game.
Though I was far from objective, I had no problem with FSU getting left out. At the time, only four teams got a shot at the playoffs, and giving FSU one of those because of a 13-0 team that clearly did not reflect the strength of the team at the end of the season would have been a waste. The Texas/Washington and Michigan/Bama semi games were both competitive right to the end. If FSU got the nod over either Texas or Bama, the semis would have been a snooze fest. That's not what the playoff committee is trying to produce.
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11 minutes ago, The Dog said:
One big difference between FSU 2023 and Ole Miss this year is that we all got to witness the horror of a Travisless FSU team whereas we don't get to see Ole Miss play without Kiffin until the playoff/bowl game.
This is a very good point. I recall FSU looking like dogshit and limping to a conference championship. Texas fans at the time were praying for Louisville to beat FSU in the conference title game, but apparently after that the committee thought, "Well, we've seen enough of FSU."
If the committee debates at all whether to keep Ole Miss, I can see an argument of "Who knows how this same team will perform without Kiffin and the offensive staff" weighing in favor of giving them a shot.
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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:
You are talking about a committee comprised of former coaches that appreciate the calendar is a mess which is causing the changes before the playoffs + AD's who appreciate their school could get f'd if their team is in a similar position with a hot coach and would never want to set that precedent. I don't think any chance a committee with that background punishes Ole Miss regardless of whether they should or not.
I get that perspective, and understand I'm arguing in a vacuum. But if part of the discussion is -- as it has been in the past -- who are the best teams right now for the playoffs, an 11-1 Ole Miss team right now is going to be worse that the same team was a week ago. That much worse to drop from playoff consideration completely? I don't know. But it's a valid discussion.
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1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:
No shot. Ole Miss wont be penalized AT ALL imo.
Maybe. But in the discussions over whether to drop Ole Miss, or where to seed them if they are in, I can see committee discussion along the lines of: "Sure, their DC is staying. But who's calling the offensive plays? Who's scouting the first round opponent and formulating an offensive game plan? Who's managing the clock and making halftime adjustments on the offensive side of the ball?"
I can't think of a data point for comparison, but has a highly-ranked team finished the regular season, only to play a bowl game after its head coach and offensive staff left the program? I have to imagine that throws even highly-talented teams in disarray.
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It's not a completely unreasonable decision for the committee to leave Ole Miss out of the playoffs. It's not just losing their head coach. Kiffin is taking the entire offensive staff with him.
It's comparable to leaving out Florida State in 2023. FSU was undefeated and conference champions. But they lost Jordan Travis late in the season, and while they still won the rest of their games, they were a completely different team and everyone could see it on the field. Here's what the committee said:
Quote"Florida State is a different team than it was the first 11 weeks," CFP selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan told ESPN. "As you look at who they are as a team right now, without Jordan Travis, without the offensive dynamic he brings, they are a different team and the committee voted Alabama four and Florida State five."
ESPN: Undefeated Florida State left out of College Football Playoff
I'm still resigned to Texas getting left out. But dropping Ole Miss in the final CFP rankings has some precedent.
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2 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:
Interesting, because the Mormons I was friends with in high school (late 80's/early 90's) only had 7-up and Sprite and other non-caffeinated drinks at any of their gatherings.
That makes sense, because apparently the church's official position on caffeinated soda was released in 2012.
QuoteIn 2012, the church released an official statement stating explicitly that caffeinated soda is allowed under church doctrine. Still, many Mormons will not consume caffeinated drinks.

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