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  1. 6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

    The ERA! Fuck off defelection troll. Why are you here?

    It is apparent that you don't know the meaning of the word deflection.  We were talking about passing legislation and the timing of such.  The amendment issue is exactly that.  There are time frames in the rules.  That was an example recently.  If some don't like them, then get them changed.

     

    As to why I am here, why shouldn't I be here.  The mods or owners have never asked me to leave, and your opinion of my presence means little to nothing to me.

  2. We are already at one of those options, the shutdown.  The strategy is for those in Washington to get to one of the other three.  How they do it is up to them.  Unless there is another option that I have missed, it is just time and bitching and posturing on their part until they get there.  The orange man in the White House says he aint budging. 

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  3. If McConnell had the votes to over-ride the guaranteed veto he would put the bill on the floor tonight.  The Senate does not have the 2/3 votes with the current House Bill, so it would just be theatre.  I thought I read something earlier today where there was talk of individual bills for certain depts, but then read that Trump said he would veto those if it was done.  Something has to give whether it is a few more Senators or a different bill.

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  4. 10 minutes ago, horn4life said:

    The simplest way to describe immigration legislation and this shutdown in the simplest form,  is that a bill passed one house.  That bill would easily pass the other house.  And in each instance a GOP leader of the second house voting refused to allow a vote... because... the bills would pass...

     

    If Trump won't sign it and it doesn't have enough votes to over-ride the veto, it does nothing to solve the impasse.  Just theatre and a waste of time, and Trump gives no shits that anyone thinks it's his fault or if people think a veto will change minds. 

    1)Keep the government closed

    2)Send him a bill that he will sign

    3)Send him a bill that he will veto but has the support to over-ride in both houses

    4)Impeach/Convict and remove him and start over with Pence.

     

  5. 2 minutes ago, M12BH said:

    Wildcard is the perception of the Congress-critters that are holding this shit up.  It could all be over tomorrow if they did their fucking jobs.  If Trump isn't going to budge, and the 'pubs aren't going to stop clinging to his pant legs, then.....what?

    1)Keep the government closed

    2)Send him a bill that he will sign

    3)Send him a bill that he will veto but has the support to over-ride in both houses

    4)Impeach/Convict and remove him and start over with Pence.

  6. 8 minutes ago, ruitxn said:

    You actually think Trump may be thinking to that depth?  He is only concerned about having to defend a totally undoable campaign promise in the 2020 debates.

    No clue what he is thinking (if I were him, I would be thinking of a way to tap Karen McDougal again).  At the end of the day we are where we are because he is in the White House, and I listed the 4 possibilities that can happen next (or we just sit where we are at my first option.) 

     

    1)Keep the government closed

    2)Send him a bill that he will sign

    3)Send him a bill that he will veto but has the support to over-ride in both houses

    4)Impeach/Convict and remove him and start over with Pence.

  7. 1 hour ago, immamac said:

    DISCLAIMER: I'm not a trump supporter, but if you are that's great for you

    Why is everyone talking about a concrete wall or even a real wall at all? In my opinion this has nothing to do with actually building anything and more to do with the Political promise that Trump would do something at the border because he said he would. No one thinks 5.7B is enough money to sprinkle dogshit along the border let alone build a fucking wall, which is why I think everyone is delusional about this ending in the next week or 2. He's gone full loco(literally) and is going to die(figuratively) on THIS hill, I know this isn't the world we WANT to be living in, but get woke mother fuckers this is the world we live in. 

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    I will say this, Trump did not cause the shutdown our entire broken ass government did. There's no excuse not to have your shit together for a budget cycle to fund the core of our governmental system on a continuous basis. Trump is definitely making the most out of a situation that presented itself not only for distraction from other stuff, but also to just appeal to the sect of Americans that everyone seems to forget exists. Did everyone forget that Beto just lost Texas even though every major metro was blue? There are TONS of "Longview Texas's" all over the country and the vast majority of his support base comes from these places where a fucking bogus ass message like the one he gave from the oval office last week would resonate. He isn't fucking talking to me or many of the people who post on this board, if you are trying to figure out the mechanics of how this works you are not his audience, because that audience is asking for full on immigration reform that WORKS for our country. He's talking to the "sheeple", the plebian army that has "had enough" of our "failing government" and wants to "make america great again". He's talking to other trump supporters - and there are A LOT of trump supporters if you haven't forgotten.

    When us older folks sit back and look at the big picture of how things are playing out, the though should be that this is what is going on behind the scenes.  Trump has his optic talking point to force a full on immigration reform bill from Congress that covers everything single thing from border security, to work visas, to current illegals, to family immigration, to HIB's, and anything else that I left out.   Not sure that that is happening, but I have hope.

    At the end of the day, he's not budging (whether you like it or not) so it becomes very simple with options for Congress and it is now in their court completely:

    1)Keep the government closed

    2)Send him a bill that he will sign

    3)Send him a bill that he will veto but has the support to over-ride in both houses

    4)Impeach/Convict and remove him and start over with Pence.

    That's it.  These are the four routes that we can go.  I wish all of the decisions in life had this few options.

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  8. 1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

    Well well.  I stated facts.  You on the other hand flipped out.  One of us has been completely sober for about 7 months. You might have been too but you’re still posting like a shitty human. Awfully defensive about it too.  

    Actually not.  Repeatedly.

  9. 31 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

    Ok, I get that.  Whitman is just hard to decipher sometimes.  A Virginia/West Virgina guy named Whitman who comes to a UT board, frequently snipes at other posters (particularly Hugo for being an LSU poster on a Texas board), is pretty vehemently anti-immigrant, and filed a grievance and requested an investigation against a Texas congresswoman for sullying his Virginia alma mater.   Seems a bit conflicted. 

    You are a horribly confused alcoholic with so many errors in this post it is amazing you were able to push send/submit. 

    1) I don't snipe at other posterS except for Hugo (Bedouin doesn't count).  So you were wrong here. Hugo is an unmedicated loon.  I have never mentioned his LSU-ness once. I have no clue that he went there or not, just that he was banned from Tigerdroppings is the only thing I have ever mentioned about LA.  I stick with mocking his volcanic diarrhea of posting.  You were wrong here.

    2) I am in no way anti-immigrant.  Hell, even in this thread I suggested liberal work visas to help.  I'm not a big fan of illegal immigrants,.  There is a difference.  Maybe put down the bottle and the haze would clear. That is your second wrong item.

    3) SJL is an embarrassment to anything she comes in contact with.  Her degree is from UVA, she is no smarter than the label of the the bottle you have buried yourself in and that looks bad on an institution with the reputation of UVa.  That is your third wrong item.   

    What is the conflict you suggest?  Or surly you are not defending Ms. Jackson-Lee?   How many times can you be wrong in one paragraph or is it easier to assume you were drunk when writing it?    Kindly sober up or fuck off.    

     

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