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  1. 3 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

    The most recent in vitro study I saw related to ivermectin and coronaviruses was from 2005, so not exactly cutting edge. There may be more recent ones, though.

    The two clinical studies I’m talking about are still enrolling participants through September with results expected around May 2022. Searching on phone is a PITA but one is in another country and one is listed on the govt website for clinical trials

    No real need to repeat the in vitro stuff I don’t think. IIRC it acts on one of the subunits of the rna dependent rna polymerase enzyme which is fairly conserved across rna viruses

  2. 14 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

    Does anybody have any idea where the Ivermectin is good against Covid theory started?  I mean, are there some quack doctors that put this out there or are we at the point where the GRU could just have trolls put something on Facebook like you should go outside and get hit by a truck and it will knock the Covid out of you. and millions of Americans would follow and die?  

    Several in vitro studies show it is effective at blocking RNA replication in several viruses including coronaviruses. Would need to use higher doses than currently FDA approved and there are no clinical trials yet although at least 2 are enrolling patients 

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  3. 18 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    Man, the mask thing has been around since the beginning. Had a friend tell me with absolute certainty both that the oxygen level inside the mask quickly drops to and stays at like 16% (been a while but I feel like that’s roughly the % of exhaled breath so that might be where that figure originated) as well as that covid particles are smaller than what a n95 mask can filter. 
     

    he somehow believed that both things could be true, that the mask can filter oxygen and carbon dioxide (and nitrogen I guess as all gases that make up our air would want to equilibrate) but not filter covid. And that individual covid virus packets are what is being expelled. 

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  4. 8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


    The “let’s focus on our natural immunity!” crowd is maddening. They post rants about how humans used to not live in such clean environments, and not get vaccinated, and we had MUCH stronger immune systems, and blah blah blah.

    Yes, Karen….and also, our life expectancy was 40….because we got cholera, and polio, and smallpox, and sepsis, and we fucking DIED from those things. By cleaning shut up, and vaccinating, and developing antibiotics….we’ve doubled our life expectancy.

    Drink clean water. Treat infections. Get vaccinated. And sure, ALSO drink wheatgrass smoothies and eat organic fruit every day - good nutrition is important. But the other stuff….that shit was the game-changer. No amount of psychotic echo chamber pretending can change that.

    By far like orders of magnitude number one in increasing life expectancy was figuring out how to separate drinking water from sewage. Vaccines were second and antibiotics a close third. Vaccines are a victim of their success. With the horrible disease it prevents no longer prevalent, nutters focus on rare adverse events

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  5. On 8/20/2021 at 4:17 PM, Newdoc said:

    Remember those nature shows where a Wildebeest calf gets eaten by hyenas and momma is upset but the rest of the herd looks at the commotion and goes back to grazing? That’s where we are at right now.
     

    The general public does not have the capacity to remain hyper vigilant or be inconvenienced for too long. A majority of our society has never had to mentally endure something of this scale and has never been trained to work through hardships. And our leadership, except for some at the local levels has no capacity or abilities  to lead us through this and is counter productive by utilizing this crisis for personal gain in many cases. 

    Couple that with almost complete dysfunction of critical thinking skills exacerbated by asshats on social media, then ta-dah! No F’s given.

    And TBH this disease just doesn’t kill enough people. SARS had an over 30% mortality rate all comers. MERS was above 60%. People masked up and stayed the fuck home to such an extent each one was contained quickly. 
     

    You wouldn’t hear shit about muh freedom if Ebola was ripping through one of our cities: you’d have posses out in space suits nailing infected people shut in their houses. 

     

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  6. 7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

    A lot were. My two were out about 4 years ago. We saw the program and jumped on it. It took about a year and a lot of letter writing, but we did it. The issue was also this. What about the parents and siblings? Once Amir gets out, he leaves them all behind. Was a rough decision and we have been trying to get the family out since Amir arrived in the US. The issue is he cannot sponsor them since he is not a citizen, just a legal resident. The options were refugee camps in Pakistan or Iran. Not great situations. 

    I am not alone in this. All of my friends have been getting people out for years. The program existed and those who could see what was coming took advantage of it. 

    That is awesome of you. Terrible they have to choose between their personal safety and their families. Also I’m sure there can and will be repercussions on family members left behind. 

  7. Pompeo et al also excluded the Afghan govt from direct negotiations with taliban leadership which undercut its legitimacy. My gut feeling is there was a plan in place, had Trump won re-election, for a controlled withdrawal of American personnel followed by our troops, followed by a rapid takeover by the taliban with subsequent recognition of the new government by the US. Any such plan would not include ensuring the safety of Afghans who helped us over the years or their families

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  8. 3 hours ago, Poolflood said:

    What?  Does this make Biden's incompetence make you feel better?

    Can you enumerate what Biden has been incompetent on? I mean other than sticking to the deadline for leaving Afghanistan put in place by the previous admin and made pretty much inevitable by the aforementioned’s prior drawdowns of troop strength in the preceding months/years? Or maybe you’re concerned with the Afghan interpreters and other workers left behind? You know, the ones who have been in queue for visas made almost impossible to obtain, again by TrumpCo?  
     

    I do wish we had gotten all our US civilians to Kabul and on their way out of the country prior to drawing down to bare bones military presence, but the rest of the shit, while tragic, was inevitable, and IMO not worth one more casualty on our side to prevent. It’s been 20 years, 6000 plus deaths, 20,000 plus wrecked bodies and innumerable shattered psyches for our side. It’s enough

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