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Sawbonz

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  1. 1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

    Initial vaccines, and prior survived exposure, protect virtually everyone from death.

    Booster provides almost no extra protection, the fact that healthy people are getting boosters rather than us focusing on countries that haven't got their initial vaccines, is terrible and many have died because of it.  First vaccine is critical. Boosters don't do much, and booster mandates for kids returning to school is just politics based on bad science.  Advantages of keeping any healthy kid out of school because of any mandate at this point are simply outweighed by social and psycological hazards. 

    Having the second shot so soon after the initial shot was bad science.

    Given the new therapies, the only people who are in danger, are those with underlying health issues and the morbidly obese. 

    Netted out, no doubt about the value of vaccines to individual help.  Vaccines and booster of very questionable utility in "protecting others" and thus policies that do so are of questionable and potentially negative consequences.

    Bottom line - we were all super cautious, but the science points to us admitting that this is a virus that is a true danger to a very limited number of people and our policies need to quickly shift to focusing on them.

    Also, I had not heard the term omnicold.

    Not quite finished with it. 

    Not going to listen but prior to SARS and MERS the 4 coronaviruses that infect humans are variants that cause the common cold. Assuming we can’t contain and eradicate the virus, as it mutates the dominant strains should become more infectious and cause less severe illness than prior strains (no guarantees of that but natural selection would favor such a strain). Covid may be heading that way. Also it’s not really a novel virus anymore, as the immune systems of a majority of people have been exposed either by vaccine, illness, or both

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  2. 27 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

    One of the fundamental realities that anecdotal stories are missing is that from the very beginning, most Covid positive patients will experience mild symptoms.

    The minority, however, is well above the threshold of statistical significance.

    Omicron is fixing to fuck shit up. Milder? Well, maybe. But so virulent that "milder" don't matter a single fuck. For the next month and a half, the grim reaper is going to be working overtime.

    Ballgame?

  3. 17 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

    Yall seem to be forgetting the fact that despite the weaker strain/less risk for a hospitalization overall, we could still see the healthcare system overwhelmed just because of how fast its moving and how many people this thing is infecting. 
     

     

    Even if this thing isnt that bad, itll still suck for the unvaxxed and the weak… specially if 1 million people a day are contracting it

    Not seeing this yet in North Texas. I guess the next two weeks will show us one way or the other. With all of the other surges by this point I was getting emails from OR directors to cancel non critical (ie life/limb threatening) surgeries at the big hospitals. Not seeing it this time

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  4. 21 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    For that age group, not the entire population. I'm just estimating that based on prior studies on hospitalization rates pre Omicron and the 80% reduction suggested by the more recent Omicron studies. If you have better data, by all means point me that way. 

    I haven’t seen any numbers of percent positives being hospitalized that’s why I was asking if you had. Also apparently the newer numbers have a higher percentage of hospitalized positives that are hospitalized for something else and are being found by routine screening. With the spike in positives I would expect 5% hospitalizations in 70-80yo to overwhelm the system. I guess we will see in the next 2 weeks 

  5. Just now, Dahobbs said:

    Ugh. Again, if he gets infected, hospitalizations for that age group given omicron and his vaccination status are probably on the order of 5%. That's comparatively low to what it has been. But it isn't the absurdly low rates you've been suggesting based on your misunderstanding of the data. 

    Where do you see 5/100 positives being hospitalized?

  6. 4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Assuming omicron is actually less severe as opposed to merely reinfecting the previously infected and vaccinated. 

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/12/omicron-cases-less-likely-to-require-hospital-treatment-studies-show/

    Even then, an 80% drop in hospitalization rate still leaves a decent chance at hospitalization for those in the older crowd, especially with only partial vaccination. 

    Anecdotal, but my dad, my aunt and her husband tested positive the week before Christmas. Dad had JnJ, they had Moderna, none boosted. All late 70’s w multiple comorbidities including obesity. Dad had head cold, no loss of smell/taste. Uncle had cough and fever/chills w loss of smell/taste. Aunt is on prednisone for autoimmune disease and felt the worst w fever up to 102. All are recovered 

    Also anecdotal but with every previous surge by now the trauma centers I work at had all closed the ORs to elective case due to Covid cases overwhelming them. Knock wood that isn’t happening this time

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  7. On 12/30/2021 at 12:35 PM, Brisketexan said:

    Upon further introspective review, I was wrong to say that Kyle Rittenhouse will be the VP on the future, winning Donald Trump Jr. ticket.  It will clearly be Kid Rock.  Because we deserve a VP whose first address will start with "Bucka, bucka, mothafucka!"

    That is 100% what we deserve.

    West coast pussy in every pot

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