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Sawbonz

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  1. 3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

    Thought Jan 6 was dumb.  But not an insurrection.  If it was, the trespasser would have brought a few guns.  

    I also find it rich from a group of people that supported the Steele Dossier and a bullshit Russian collusion hoax for years in an attempted to coup to remove a sitting president.

    It's not like leftist rioters forced a President into a bunker to save his life, and then publicly laughed about it. It was also reported 50 secret service agents were injured during the riot. It was the same riot that burned down two historical monuments. Note, not a single democrat condemned the rioters or the violence that day. None. No media personalities, no politicians, none of them. Instead they fabricated a story that Trump had protestors tear gassed, even though the DC police chief said it was his call and had nothing to do with the White House. They completely ignored the attack on an American institution that literally shut down executive functions.

    But if that wasn't bad enough. They then mocked Trump for "hiding in a bunker". While their jack boots were attacking their political opposition, they mocked the president for being forced into the bunker by the Secret Service. That's the Democrats attempting to appear to have the high ground on Jan 6 and the media going along with their vast exaggeration.

    So spare me your faux outrage.  You don't give a shit. This is all Realpolitik at this point. 

    Are you retarded?

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  2. 14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am a bit surprised at Pete Sessions.  But, since he got run from office, I suppose he's fully on the MAGA train to keep himself in office and on the grift.

    He moved from Park Cities (maybe Preston Hollow) to Waco so he could get back into Congress. All you need to know 

     

    13 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

     

    (The WiFi didn’t work)

     

    neither did the rally

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  3. 2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

    That and they brought in a handful of Republican leaders and a former Trump admin spokesperson to ramp up the CRT outrage in Loudon county (a former stronghold) at their meetings, taped the encounters and ran to Fox to broadcast. So there was a solid strategy there.

    And that was only an option because of the ham fisted way macauliff initially responded to the issue gave them that avenue of attack

  4. 14 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

    We had elections in November 2021.  They did not go well for Democrats.  Virginia dems tried to play 1/6 and Trump repeatedly.  Did not work.  No one but hard core democrats give a shit.  

    They ran terry macaulif. Had jack shit to do with 1/6

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  5. 5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    It's like the iceberg rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. The second action doesn't register much with me in light of the first one.

    You indeed do not say everything will be fine. You say we'll see which suggests inaction and patience to me. Such things, IMHO, will facilitate the downfall.

    Written respectfully.

    This makes no sense, respectfully. You would rather he had kept quiet? As for inaction, how does it follow from my “we’ll see” reply to brisket’s Armageddon prediction that I think nothing needs to be done? 

  6. On 1/5/2022 at 12:23 PM, Randolph Duke said:

    Players also anonymously told investigators that the coaching staff would show "videos of serial killers, drills entering eyeballs, and bloody scenes with animals eating animals" during team meals. 

    "Mr. Durkin maintains that horror movies were sometimes shown at breakfast to motivate and entertain players," the report stated. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/10/25/maryland-football-no-toxic-culture-under-dj-durkin-investigation/1765948002/

     

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  7. Just now, Bateshorn said:

    Fuck Karl Rove. Because he had visions of a Paris in 1944 political moment following 9/11, there are literally hundreds of thousand of Iraqi’s, Syrians, and Kurds who are now dead.  He’s a complete piece of shit. 

    Did anyone say he isn’t?

  8. 10 minutes ago, C-Man said:

    I generally like W as a human. I think his heart is in the right place but he was manipulated by folks within his administration like Cheney and Rove into some pretty horrific policy in hindsight. While Rove is appearing to play "nice" here, he certainly shares some of the blame for Trump. I feel that nothing really changed all that much except that Trump is simply saying the quiet parts out loud. (I will add as a former member of the journalistic world, I'm appalled at how Trump has single-handedly destroyed a once mostly-noble profession. Of course he's been aided by the internet-at-large and, perhaps more specifically, Facebook.)

    I would add it’s disappointing that W has stayed quiet on this and the only reason I can think he has is to protect his nephew’s political interests. 

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  9. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    Pay careful attention to how the MAGAsphere treats Rove and Cruz.  Your prediction is accurate.

    See Tucker Carlson.....https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-scolds-ted-cruz-for-calling-jan-6-a-terrorist-attack-asks-what-the-hell-is-going-on

    Translation: Ted, you have one chance to get right with the MAGAsphere....or face the consequences.

    Of course. And that’s my point. A schism in the party seems more likely than ever. Again that is a good thing

  10. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    If he had any material role in an attack on my country, yes, I do.  Just like I supporting the harshest of consequences for anyone who had a material role in attacking my country on 9/11.

    If he didn't......then I want him to fucking acknowledge he helped build the very monster he now condemns.  Otherwise, by failing to tell the whole truth, he's just telling a different flavor of lie.  He's still a liar, so he gets zero admiration from me.

    And this.

    They fucking stoked this shit, they built the monster, they told the monster how to act......and then when the monster does what monsters do, they cry "oh no, that's monstrous?"  Fuck them in the goat ass.

    I never said Rove or any of the others is worthy of admiration.  I never said they should be able to avoid any of the consequences their actions will or may bring them. That’s a non sequitur.
     

    Any republicans of note condemning the insurrection or calling out the leaders and organizers is a good thing. 

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  11. 3 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

    Sure, I guess it's mildly encouraging that after years of enabling, or at best, silence, they said something.  But it's akin to Japanese military strategists making a speech in saying they shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor after the Battle of Midway.

    At that point in the war those strategists would have been shot, and our leaders would be more than mildly encouraged by the dissent

  12. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    I'd rather they hang.

    That's how functioning countries deal with people who participate in a violent attempt to decapitate and overthrow the government.

    You want Karl Rove to hang?

  13. 4 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    Where was Rove during Trump’s second impeachment? We know where Cruz was. He was in the Senate voting for Trump’s acquittal.

    So you would rather they say nothing or support the insurrectionists?

    5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    It's not a good sign, my friend, that you think we're the ones who are unhinged.

    You're not a partisan hack. You're a smart guy. Things aren't fine, and this really isn't the time to even think, "we'll see." You're not spouting optimism, but I wonder at the gap between our perceptions.

    Pointing out a bad take does not mean I think you are unhinged. I have never said things are fine.
     

    I find it encouraging that mainstream republicans are publicly speaking out against the insurrection and in Rove’s case calling for the leaders and organizers to be punished (would have been nice had he named names but this was still good). Kind of amazing to me that you don’t agree

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  14. 3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Because there's enough of a sliver of memory of the way things SHOULD work that there has to be a WHIFF of credibility to the declaration that "Republican guy really won!"  If he loses a state by a million votes instead of 10,000, they can't pull that off.  And I think Trump is the only guy who inspires that level of fierce loyalty.

    Nope, I didn't say we should resort to shooting trumpkins (we'd be naive to think it can't ever come to that - for fuck's sake they violently attacked our government, violence was ALREADY on the table - but we're not there).  I'm suggesting we use brutal, relentless, and legal means to hurt them.  Destroy their names.  Wreck their businesses.  Cast them out of all reasonable society.  Treason has a price.  You don't get to be both a traitor to the Republic AND live a comfortable, happy, easy life.

    We're seeing first-hand how it works.  The heroic patriots who followed Godking Trump's orders on 1/6?  The majority of them become blubbering pussies when they appear at their sentencing hearing, realizing they are losing it all.  Suffering real consequences.  I say bring them MORE consequences, and bring them to all who would support them and another insurrection.  They will not listen to reason.  But they can't help but hear the prison cell slamming shut behind them.  They can't help but see their livelihood evaporate.

    Maybe use courtrooms and not mushroom clouds to illustrate your points then

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  15. 2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Interesting that Mike Pence, of all people, may be the "stand up guy" from the Administration.

    Even more interesting that one Dan Quayle apparently was the one that helped him find his spine.

    I don’t recall anyone questioning whether Quayle had a backbone 

     

    Just whether he could spell it

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  16. 1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

    If we sit on our hands and watch, we will see the triumph of fascism.

    Rove serves this triumph by maintaining the delusion that this is merely partisan politics as it's been forever. It's not. The number of traditional Republicans on this board who have turned on that "political party" is clear evidence of this.

    Everything has changed. One side believes in the institutions and ideals of a democratic republic. The other ceasely attacks those very institutions and ideals while claiming they are the true patriots.

     

    What are you talking about? Karl Rove, inarguably one of the “other side,” wrote an op Ed condemning the actions of Jan 6 and rightly pointing out that had democrats tried something similar bin 2016 the republicans would be apoplectic. That is a good thing. A very good thing. Cruz is calling them terrorists. Cheney is on the select committee

     

    But hey if you want a war get a gun and go shoot a trumpkin. Why sit on your hands any longer?

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