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  1. 15 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    The shortened quarantine was a political decision. 
     

    How is reclassifying hospitalizations and deaths a byproduct of improving conditions? That’s just trying to change the narrative.
     

    Also, I forgot cloth masks no longer work. Is that because things have gotten better? No, more optics. 

    Shortened quarantine is based on data that show current illness is less severe and of shorter duration. Thanks in large part to widespread vaccine

    Nothing is being reclassified. That’s more of the bullshit narrative that people were coming in for broken ankles and being admitted for Covid so the docs and hospitals could make money. What is true is that, mostly due to vaccination efforts as well as a he increased transmissibility of omicron, people are popping positive for Covid on routine screening for elective procedures or when they come in through the ER for other problems. There are still plenty of sick as shit people (almost all unvaccinated) admitted for Covid. 
     

    Who gives a shit about masks, cloths or otherwise if half of people refuse to wear them? More bullshit

     

     

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  2. On 9/26/2021 at 10:48 AM, hayden_horn said:

    oh. shit. when i was 23 i got hammered on a business trip and told a vp everything that was wrong with how the business was run. she says to me "why are you telling me this? I'm a vp"  to which i responded "why do you think I'm telling you this,  because you're a vp"

    did not get fired. 

    You sound like a straight shooter with upper management written all over him

  3. 3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Wow, that seems aggressive.  Is that just a concession to a reduced labor pool?

    Not sure probably somewhat but also  most all of us are vaxed and many have also had Covid and just feel the need to get on with life. 

  4. 1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

    I dug the local language. Like learning the Ulster Scot version of French. Beer drank pretty good too. If they'd move Quebec someplace warm, I'd live there.

    They did. It’s called Lafayette Louisiana 

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  5. Almost everyone on this website would have been the guys in this song or their yank counterparts

     

     

    and after the war was over if you survived you’d go back to dirt farming, likely displacing/killing natives to do so and not giving a fuck about them 

     

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  6. Just now, hobbes2702 said:

    This is what you said. That is not what Sotomayor said. For someone who wants to dive into the pedantry of the statement you don’t seem very concerned about the clarity of your own.

    She clearly is implying there are 100k children hospitalized in serious condition from Covid. The statement I quoted supports my interpretation. I’m not sure why you are trying to pretend it doesn’t. 

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  7. 6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    I already addressed that.  Justice Sotomayor is not a physician, and should not be expected to use the language in the same manner physicians do.

    Lay people do not to my knowledge go around talking about people in serious condition other than in the sense of hospitalizations. I don’t think that is your experience either but this is pointless

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  8. 1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

    Link to where she said that

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    We have hospitals that are almost at full capacity with people severely ill on ventilators. We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition

    This is what she said. If you want to say that quote doesn’t mean children in serious condition are hospitalized we aren’t speaking the same language and there is no point in further discussion 

  9. 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Why do you believe that means "hospitalized"? 

    I showed some very basic math earlier that points to 100K cases representing a 2.5% "severe illness" rate in children, assuming omicron is spreading evenly across all age groups.  That might be a bad assumption, but omicron is known to affect children proportionally more than any previous variant.  Would 2.5% of cases being "serious" give you pause?  What if it's 5%?

    Have you ever heard the phrase “in serious condition” in a healthcare context that did not refer to hospitalized status? I’ve been in healthcare for 30 years, and I have not (well except for Ferris Bueller)
     

    I have seen no studies for any variant that indicates 2.5% rate of serious illness in children, even if you want to assume “serious illness” doesn’t have to mean hospitalized. If you have a link showing otherwise please share. 
     

    what she said is factually incorrect. You may be ok with that since she had good intentions wrt the point she was attempting to make. I am not

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  10. 1 hour ago, ouflak said:

    Now this is new (and possibly horribly mis-interpreted, though I can't find any original statement), atleast for me. This BBC article is implying that the Scottish government is considering that Covid itself - not the vaccine, but the actual disease - may have some adverse affect on pregnancies.

     

    I've certainly heard the theory that the vaccine might have adverse affect on pregnancies, though I believe that's been thoroughly disproven. But I'd never heard anyone claim that the disease itself might affect pregnancies. In my defense however, I haven't really combed the internet looking for this stuff, so I may have missed it.

    Preterm births are greatly increased in Covid positive mothers. Not sure about miscarriages 

  11. 4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


    Read and listen to her actual statement, NOT the characterizations of it by the COVID/vax denier crowd. She didn’t say 100k kids are on vents. Same as Gorsuch didn’t say the flu kills hundreds of thousands. Pauses/commas matter.

    Read my statement. I didn’t say she said there were 100k kids on vents. Why are you insinuating I did? I read her actual statement. She said “In serious condition” which means hospitalized at minimum and implies seriously ill. That is untrue and at best a careless statement. Quit acting like any criticism of your side (which happens to be my side in this case) is defense of the other side. Misinformation is misinformation regardless of the source 

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  12. 36 minutes ago, Nivek said:

    God, I admire you/Fletch

     

    Try reading before you react.  Then reflect on it for a moment.  And then add in empathy and understanding.   Because I am sure you have never misspoke before.  Or are you a 57 States guy?

    She said over 100k children in serious condition.
     

    A Supreme Court justice during arguments before the court should be more circumspect. That shouldn’t be a controversial take. 

  13. 2 hours ago, Nivek said:

    People misspeak all the time.  This isn't some habit of hers that has been recorded 17,000 times.   And what I read had her saying it was 100k kids sick, and many on ventilators, not 100k on ventilators or 90k on ventilators.  The whole fucking story is a bunch of nothing bullshit.  Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz lie every day multiple times and no one bats and eye.  A democratic party member says something wrong or misstates something, and it is a god damn lightning rod for the stupids.  Yeah you fell for it hook line and sinker.    The only reason I know about this is because of this website and then a google search.  

     WE did not politicize a virus.  WE did not deny it exists.  WE did not spread misinformation or fake cures.  

    Link to 100k children hospitalized w Covid? It was a stupid statement. It’s ok to acknowledge that

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