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  1. I will admit that he has done a good job. I still think not making the tournament is a failure of sorts this year, but that is only because I view him as a top-5 coach.  I'm sure he will make the tourney next year and will be a thorn in our ass for years to come.

    I disagree a little about how shitty the Ole Miss job is.  I think he will be there for 3-4 years. Maybe longer.  There is no reason a coach as good as Beard can't make them into a national power. I think their building blocks are at least as good as Tech. Probably better.  Other coaches have had some success there, but it has been inconsistent.

  2. Derka labels anyone who ever says anything positive about Terry, as a "Terry apologist" or a "sunshine pumper". 

    He also constantly posts that Terry isn't good enough for the program (even in this very thread within the last hour).  In a thread talking about an ass whipping of our arch rival. 

    We don't need to go back and find hundreds of posts.  Just scroll up.

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  3. 12 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    acting like “we’re just a couple of points away” from being some badass team is just so disingenuous and pollyanna.

    I never said we are a great team, but we are close to being one. The distance between being a great team and a good team is often very slim.  If we had won those games, we might be a great team.  But we didn't.  We are who we are, and we deserve the results that we got.

    You love to use KenPom to dissect and shit on this team, but KenPom has us at 25, which is a lot closer to 15 than it is to 50.  Teams in the 40-50 range don't have a resume like this team.  If they did, they would be ranked 25 like us and not 50.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

    Kind of a weird season. If we had a healthy Disu against Baylor we could very well be ranked in the top 25 headed into the Big 12 tournament. 

    We have had some really close losses.  The WV and UCF losses should have been wins.  The UH overtime loss.  The Baylor loss.  If all of those are wins, we are probably a 3-4 seed. 

  5. Brock has been playing a bit better than he was 6 weeks ago.

    It seems like Terry likes playing Brock + Disu and Mitchell + Shedrick.  Seems to be working out.  We haven't had a "bad" loss in quite a while, even though some of them have been painful. And we have a few very satisfying wins, including this one and the ass whipping at Tech.  

  6. Bah. Of course the arena plays a role in helping turn a program around. 

    It shows that the administration is willing to spend big money on the program, and it helps you recruit better players.  It helps generate and maintain fan interest.  Every one of us was beyond thrilled at the combined prospect of what Chris Beard and the brand new Moody Center was going to mean for UT hoops. 

    Of course, a great arena isn't a golden ticket that will guarantee success, but Chris Beard should be able to leverage it better than any other coach that I know of.  

    But you're right. There is no difference between Ole Miss and Prairie View, who plays in the shitty SWAC, in a shitty stadium built in the 60s in front of <checks notes> an average of 1,053 fans.  🙄

    You don't see Prairie View opening a new $100M stadium. 

  7. 17 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

    tom izzo went 15-13 at michigan state three years ago. guess that disqualifies him from being considered a top 5 coach.

    Throughout this whole debate, I have never agued that Beard isn't a top-5 coach.  (Although that may be a bit generous now that his reputation has taken a hit).  The measure of success I used was not win/loss%, but simply making the tournament.  And in the year you referenced, Izzo STILL made the tourney, just as he has for the last 25+ years in a row.

    My whole point is that how we judge success and failure should change in this era of NIL and the portal.  Great coaches don't need 3-4 years to turn a program around when they are turning over practically their whole team every year anyway.  Again, 70% of the Ole Miss team was brought in by Beard and most are upper classmen.  None of this is to say that Beard isn't a great coach - he is.

    It is also laughable to compare Ole Miss to schools like Prairie View A&M.  Ole Miss is only a few years removed from opening a brand new, awesome $100M basketball arena.  This site ranks it the #12 arena in all of college basketball:

    https://www.stadiumjourney.com/stadiums/stadium-journey-s-top-25-college-basketball-arenas-of-2023

    Maybe he will turn it around next year.  Or maybe he will bolt for greener pastures.  If he leaves now, at least it will be a longer tenure than he had at UNLV.

     

     

  8. 2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

    He hates this Ole Miss team. You can hear it in his voice when talking with the media and how he acts on the sideline during games.

    The funny thing is, he brought in most of them.  Out of his top-10 players, he brought in seven of them. And most are juniors or seniors.   If he hates them, he has nobody to blame but himself.

    • Matthew Murrell - SR
    • Jaylen Murray - JR - Beard transfer
    • Allen Flanigan - SR - Beard transfer
    • Jaemyn Brakefield - SR
    • Brandon Murray - JR - Beard transfer
    • TF Caldwell - SO
    • Jamarion Sharp - SR - Beard transfer
    • Moussa Cisse - SR - Beard transfer
    • Austin Nunez - So - Beard transfer
    • Rashaud Marshall - FR - Beard recruit
  9. What a sad sack of a program Ole Miss is. Making the tourney in year one is an impossibly high standard there.

    Oh, except in year one, Kermit Davis (Ole Miss's LAST coach) made the tournament in year one (taking them from 12-20 the year before).  Oh, and Rod Barnes, the Ole Miss coach two coaches prior (in the early 2000s) took Ole Miss to the 2nd round of the tournament in his first year.  Of course, Barnes' starting point was higher, but still... two out of the last three Ole Miss coaches made the tourney in year one.

    Neither of those dudes were top-5 coaches either. 

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  10. 27 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    coming from an unabashed RT apologist

    You keep saying this, but it simply isn't true. I guess that is the state of the world these days... There is no middle ground or balance.  You are either labeled as an RT sunshine pumper or hater.  

    There was no bigger Beard fan on this board than me, I promise you that.  I liked him long before Texas hired him.  My parents are top 1% Tech donors and are basketball fanatics. I've been subjected to countless Beard games over the years.  And when we hired him, it was guaranteed we were going to be great.

    But Beard didn't do it alone at Tech. Mark Adams was a big reason for their success and was a great assistant. Dude coached a Juco national title himself and took Tech to the Sweet 16.  He was just too weird and lost the locker room. 

    And Beard didn't do it alone at Texas.  Rodney Terry and the rest of the staff did a lot of the heavy lifting before Beard was fired, and did all of the heavy lifting after.  Most of my posts simply ask that we give RT the credit that he is due.  But for the thousandth time, I don't think we should have hired him.

    I also wouldn't say that Beard's season this year is an "epic failure", but it is a failure.  BEARD HIMSELF WOULD SAY IT IS A FAILURE.

  11. I was at the game. The first half was one of the best performances I have ever seen from a Texas team. Just incredible. But then you look at the scoreboard and we were only up by single digits. It was inevitable.

    Once the outside shots stopped falling, like they always do, you have to be able to work it inside. We HAD to have Disu to close this one out. The team knew it. The fans knew it. When he went down it was over.

    And as an aside, Disu is going to have to learn to stay out of foul trouble. Other teams take it right at him constantly knowing that he is going to foul.

    It is too bad we won’t get to play in that arena again. If I’m honest, I like it better for hoops than Moody.

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  12. I was making shit up. I recall that being the story at the time, but who knows.  My bad.  Really all four of those guys would have done very well to stay and play under Beard.

    I'm sure Coleman wasn't forced out, or even hinted at that he should move on.

  13. 18 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    edit: here’s the roster of that “top 5 team” when beard took over just a months before that poll was released:  Andrew Jones, Courtney Ramey, Jase Febres, Brock Cunningham

    This is also misleading.  Chris Beard was announced April 1...  AFTER Beard was announced, we lost all of the following at the end of April / early May:

    • Donovan Williams (National #66), who went on to average 12.7 pts, 3.3 reb for UNLV (and is currently on the Atlanta Hawks)
    • Kemaka Hepa (National #55), who had played in 50+ games and would go on to average 11 & 6 over two years at Hawaii
    • Gerald Liddell (National #44), who went on to average 12 pts, 7.6 reb for Alabama State & Detroit
    • Royce Hamm, left and averaged 8.6 pts, 9.3 reb for UNLV

    Matt Coleman still had a year of eligibility left and could have come back. He ended up undrafted.  Greg Brown cost himself a lot of money by going pro and went from a potential lottery pick to being drafted 43rd overall. 

    Beard didn't inherit just four dudes, he had eight... and then forced out four of them and replaced them with better players.  At least get the narrative right. Do better.  lol.

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  14. 1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

    Beard basically had to play with 5-6 guys for the entire second half of that year, none of whom were even all conference talents.

    Come on man.  Beard had FIVE dudes on the 21-22 team who were All-Conference the year before playing for him.  The team was talented AF to be a one and done in the tourney:

    • Marcus Car - 20-21 3rd Team All Big 10 and on the late-season Wooden Award List
    • Timmy Allen - 20-21 1st Team All-Pac10
    • Andre Jones - 20-21 2nd Team All-Big 12
    • Courtney Ramey - 20-21 3rd Team All-Big 12
    • Tre Mitchell - 20-21 1st Team All A10
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  15. The standard is also different for football and basketball.  We are a true blue-blood in football.  We might be up or down any given year, but we are without question one of the 7-8 best programs in the history of the sport.  We should expect to make the new playoffs every year, and win a title once every 15-20 years.

    In basketball, we have potential to be a great program, but we have never lived up to it.  Barnes was (and is) a very good coach, but only got us to one Final Four and two Elite 8s. Shaka was the hottest coach in the country when we hired him and he sucked ass.  Now he left and is having more success at freaking Marquette.  Chris Beard was building something good, but who knows if he would have reached the mountain top.  Even if he hadn't bit and choked his way out of Austin, he has a volatile temper and has a hard time holding on to talented players.

    Ultimately, Texas basketball has more in common with Aggy football than with UT football.  We recruit well and hire previously successful coaches. We get glimmers of success, but just never pull it all together for a sustained period.  It sucks, but it is true.  Expecting more from RT than was delivered by Penders, Barnes, Shaka and Beard is weird.

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