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  1. 1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    I am very comfortable saying that any unauthorized immigrant who has been arrested SEVEN TIMES on felony charges in  five years should have been arrested or deported long before this (second) murder arrest, yes. And that deporting people like him is a good thing, and that finding reasons not to deport people who keep getting arrested is one reason why we are where are.

    Like who are we kidding on this stuff? What is the net benefit for not kicking you out after, say, two arrests? Keep in mind he has no authorization to be here to begin with. 

    Why the incredulity? I'm explaining to you the legal reasons why local law enforcement has issues with the idea of ICE detainers. Sounds like a failure on the part of the federal government - not the local jails.

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  2. 29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    I think that “sanctuary” policies where immigration authorities are not informed when unauthorized immigrants are arrested for serious crimes are frankly insane on their face and anyone who wants a more humane immigration needs to admit that the backlash they caused is a big reason we are where we are.  If it’s inhumane to turn over people with multiple arrests for serious crimes then who can be deported at all?  
     

     

     

    The logical explanation is that he was not facing any charges and local jails do not operate as holding facilities for federal crimes. LA County has paid out millions in lawsuits related to improperly detaining persons based on ICE holds. Often ICE makes no effort to actually get these people, even after all matters are cleared, so you've got people just sitting in county jails, on the local dime, without any indication if/when the Feds will act.  

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    Lead plaintiff Duncan Roy, a noted British filmmaker, spent 89 days in Men’s Central Jail because the LASD repeatedly refused to allow him to post bail set by the court because he was subject to an erroneous ICE hold. He repeatedly made unsuccessful attempts to speak with ICE and explain that he was in the country legally and the hold was erroneous. Roy was detained in the “gay dorms,” where he was denied medical care for recent prostate and colon cancer. After nearly three months in jail, ICE lifted his immigration detainer on humanitarian grounds and LASD finally permitted his bondsman to post bail.

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    LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors today approved settlement of a class action lawsuit brought by immigrants who were unlawfully detained by the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department — sometimes for months — because of “ICE hold” requests from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    The holds, also called “immigration detainers,” forced individuals to be held in county jails after they were legally entitled to be released. Pending approval by a federal judge, the settlement marks the end of the lawsuit Roy v County of Los Angeles originally filed in 2012.

    During the time period covered by this settlement, Los Angeles County was responsible for holding more people in its jails on ICE detainers than any other county and most other states in the nation. The sheriff’s department agreed to stop the practice entirely in July 2014.

    And its not just crazy libs who think this way. Sheriffs all over the country have refused to comply with ICE Holds:

    https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/no-mas-local-sheriffs-stop-honoring-immigration-detainers/

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    Over the last several years, every jail in the country has become familiar with the I-247 immigration detainer request, issued by ICE.  The I-247 detainer is sent to local jails, requesting that local law enforcement keep a particular inmate in custody for an additional period of time after he or she would otherwise be released so that immigration authorities can pick him or her up to be transferred to an immigration detention center.[2]  Tens of thousands of people have been detained this way by local jails, for varying time periods, and at an untold fiscal expense to the local taxpayers.  This “request”, however, has no legal force.  

    Immigration detainers are not warrants or court orders.  In fact, these detainers are not issued or even approved of by judges.  Instead, they are unsworn documents that may be issued by a wide variety of immigration enforcement agents and deportation officers.[3]  They are frequently issued without even a supervisor’s review.  Therefore, these detainers often do not even represent a finding of a person’s immigration status nor do they provide any proof that the person is even deportable.  

    Recent decisions by federal judges in Oregon, Rhode Island and the Third Circuit have concluded that immigration detainers are merely requests and do not meet the required evidentiary standards to satisfy a government initiated seizure.  The decisions make two things clear: (1) I-247 immigration detainers are requests, and therefore pose no legal obligation that sheriffs must comply with, and (2) local sheriffs who decide to honor these requests, do so at his or her own peril.

     

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  3. 3 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

    To your first point, you are absolutely correct. It doesn't at all resemble fascism, merely regressivism. 

    To your second point, you can console yourself that you are technically correct at best. But that assessment comes with either gross incompetence on the part of the Democratic Party or wilful conspiracy. Possibly a mixture of both. There is no scenario where either the leaders of the party were unaware of Biden's health condition or knew and didn't care because they thought they had an Ace in their pocket. To act like party leaders have no power to influence things, or at least offer up an alternative during elections is about as intelligent as the postings of fattyflattie on this thread.

    Fair points, and because the Democratic party did not open up the nomination process, we had to vote for the guy who spent 3 months trying to overturn a free and fair election and install himself as the unelected leader of the country. 

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  4. 4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    L.O.L

     

    People aren't bitching about the immigrants (oh my God, they also happen to be brown, weird??!?) that are filling the university research labs across the nation, or that are training to be our next wave of doctors and engineers.  They bitch about the people who's absolute peak in life is washing dishes, a floor, or mowing a yard (and the subsequent 9 fuck trophies that will follow).  Newsflash, no one likes the white people (or their trophies) that do those jobs either.  It's a reminder that without the laziness of a larger group of people, these people largely serve no purpose.  It's why not a single person with any of those jobs live in your neighborhood.    Blaming it on racism though, especially if you are not one of the victims (hint, you Brisketexan are certainly not, surname notwithstanding) is just internetz fun or a way to scratch the I want to whine itch. 

    People see uneducated, poor, and low skill people fleeing to look for a better situation.  Well, you were a whole hell of a lot more responsible for what you are fleeing than me.  You trashed your first pad, time to move onto the next host? Have no want to assimilate? Meh.  Send me some more potential doctors and engineers, I'll get the lawn figured out.  

    There is a contingent of people who are into it for the hate, without a doubt.   But people that want to stop immigration humanely could do it in an instant.  Remove their ability to vote, even with citizenship.  Go 3 generations deep.  Democrats would give less than a fuck about an immigrant at that point.  And if your life isn't better here with that as a stipulation, stay home and fix your own squalor. 

    go sell this shit to your fellow pedophile supporters. No one here is buying this.

    Is it a coincidence that the ONLY group of refugees that Trump wants are WHITE South Africans?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_South_African_refugee_program

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  5. He was in the arraignment court today. In a suicide gown. Waived his right to a speedy arraignment. I assume the defense is going to pursue a "not guilty by reason of insanity" defense, which is probably the only angle they have. Will need to show that he was suffering from a mental/disease defect, and due to that disease/defect, was unable to understand the nature of his act or that his act was morally and legally wrong. Important to note that it cannot be based off of intoxication, or even that the disease/defect were caused by narcotics.

     

    Nick Reiner appears in court on Wednesday in Los Angeles.

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