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Posts posted by TKthunder2
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36 minutes ago, 'stache said:
I guess Texas is out of the Sunbelt altogether, the only team left is Sam Houston, and I don't think they are Sunbelt worthy. Sounds like La Tech or Western Kentucky. My guess in WKU, there's likely a reason La. Tech is always left behind.
The reason is their president and AD have never wanted to associate with ULM. But they realize the writing is on the wall this time as the Sun Belt is a better conference with a better TV deal which also limits travel costs.
The 6 teams in the Sun Belt Western division is basically a bus league for LA Tech while CUSA has maybe 4? teams they could bus to.
LA Tech would prefer to join the American with UAB/Memphis but has seen programs like UNT, UTSA, FAU, and UNCC pass them by. The Sun Belt with Southern Miss, App State, Georgia Southern, Marshall, and Coastal Carolina are far more attractive than anything left in CUSA.
Add in Memphis and ECU for 16 and the Sun Belt would be nearly perfect for them (their unrealistic dream would be to drop both the Bama schools and ULM for UAB, Tulane and Rice).
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On 6/18/2025 at 11:58 PM, TKthunder2 said:
Sac State appears to be leaving the Big Sky so maybe the Utah schools lands there and the WAC can finally be put out of its misery.
Sac State leaving Big Sky and joining Big West in all sports but football (Independent but trying to move up to FBS)
https://newuniversity.org/2025/06/24/california-state-university-sacramento-to-join-big-west-in-2026/
Two Utah schools (Utah Tech and Southern Utah) and joining the Big Skyhttps://www.montanasports.com/college/big-sky-conference-adding-southern-utah-utah-tech
Texas schools (Tarleton, UTA, Abilene Christian) are staying in the WAC (keeping tournament bids and exit fees) and bringing in the Eastern based football schools (West GA, North Bama, Austin Peay (TN), Eastern Kentucky, and Central Arkansas) from the Atlantic Sun into the WAC and rebranding under their football league’s name United Athletic Conference.
https://fbschedules.com/multiple-fcs-football-leagues-realigning-per-report/
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This is a weak announcement.
QuoteThe Pac-12 announced that Paramount’s CBS Sports will be the expanded conference’s anchor media partner for five years when it welcomes seven new member schools in 2026.
The distribution deal for the “new Pac-12” runs through the 2030-31 academic year, with football and men’s basketball games airing on CBS, Paramount+ and the CBS Sports Network.
The deal, announced in an embargoed press release Monday, is technically an extension of an agreement CBS Sports signed with the conference in late April. The current two-school Pac-12 of Oregon State and Washington State re-signed with the CW while also adding ESPN and CBS Sports for the 2025 season.
Financial details were not disclosed, as the conference remains in the market to add more media partners. Octagon, which the Pac-12 hired in an advisory role in November, negotiated the 2025 and 2026 deals.
The extension will include a minimum of three regular-season football games and at least three men’s basketball games on broadcast channel CBS and streamer Paramount+. The remainder of CBS Sports’ Pac-12 inventory will air on CBS Sports Network, with a schedule to be announced at a later date. The conference championship games for both sports will air on CBS and stream on Paramount+.
5 year “extension” for 3 games on CBS with no dollars disclosed…
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3 hours ago, LTbear said:
How much of the AAC contracts/ money/ supposed interest is the residual of the much better teams it lost not long ago? Genuinely don't know. I'd watch the SBC all day over the AAC.
https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/espn-1-billion-deal-aac-espn-plus.html
12 year deal signed in 2019 when they had Houston, SMU, Cincy, and UCF.
They have since expanded and diluted the per school number by adding UNCC, FAU, UNT, UTSA, UAB, and Rice as full members plus Army as football only.
If Memphis, Tulane, USF, ECU moved to the Sun Belt that conference would be head and shoulders over the AAC if they were to renegotiate the TV contracts tomorrow.
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Yeah I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
App State has fairly good brand power. Not claiming they are Boise State but they are up there and are way better than Charlotte.
The Sun Belt has gone after good football schools with passionate fans bases. ECU fits that mold more so than any Eastern school in the American Conference.
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7 hours ago, DFW Horn said:
How does ECU traveling across the state to rural, mountainous Boone, benefit their program and university as a whole? I think ECU would rather have increased exposure in NC's largest city than BFE. More eyes and potential NC students in Charlotte.
And, yes, money is the key driver to ECU staying in the AAC. It pays better than the Sun Belt, doesn't it?
Because in this new era of college football markets don’t mean as much. Eyeballs and fan engagement mean more. If you don’t have a major national TV contract then markets mean next to nothing.
The American and the PAC12 are both on the cusp of this size. But the Sun Belt and MAC have proved that having a smaller regional conference of passionate fans is still a good TV product for casual fans.
For now ECU chasing the money is not a bad strategy, but if they are trying to drive more regional interest and fan engagement playing then the Sun Belt is a far better fit.
The “local” teams for ECU in the American are Charlotte, UAB, a pair of South Florida schools, Temple, Army and Navy. Everyone else is basically on or West of the Mississippi River.
The local teams in the Sun Belt are App State, Coastal, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, and a trio in the Virginias. These are more similar to ECU’s profile and would drive more engagement and future dollars.
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4 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
Why is ECU in the spot they're in?
They have probably the biggest fanbase of a remaining G5 school. Their stadium wouldn't be the smallest in any P4 league. They've shown you can win there.
But they've never ever even been close to being a candidate to move up in the world. Just always seemed a little weird to me.
Because they are in a state with 1/3rd the population of Texas with 4 schools in the P4 and 2 others in the G5. They just aren’t going to move the needle for realignment.
Pairing them with App State would be far better for them than putting them with UNC-Charlotte (if there wasn’t money involved).
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So if what is being reported is true…
Texas State > PAC12
LA Tech > Sun Belt
Tarleton State > CUSAThat mean that the remaining WAC: UT-Arlington (no fb), Abilene Christian, Utah Tech, Southern Utah
Seems like UTA and ACU should beg the Southland for an invite at this point. Weird that they haven’t already…
Sac State appears to be leaving the Big Sky so maybe the Utah schools lands there and the WAC can finally be put out of its misery.
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3 hours ago, Sir Ulrich said:
The Sun Belt going to Tripling down on the state of Louisiana is just lazy. Western Kentucky may be a good add in a new market but losing the Texas market as a whole is silly when Sam Houston is right there. Would add a solid FB and baseball member on Day 1
Sam Houston’s football stadium seats 12,000. They belong in FCS.
Louisiana Tech is a good fit for the Sun Belt (so is WKU).
Chasing markets is how CUSA fell below the Sun Belt in the pecking order. Markets at this level aren’t very important. Fan engagement and travel costs are the priority. ESPN/FOX aren’t paying for Sun Belt content for national audiences. They are paying for it to drive users to their streaming services/apps. Eyeballs are more important than markets at the G5 level.
(All that being said, I wouldn’t blame them for going after FIU for the size of the school and market)
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We all assume so. I think the league might have preferred UNLV but Texas State seems to be the best realistic candidate with the MWC locked up and the AAC teams turning them down. These are the only real remaining options:
Texas State
NMSU
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1 minute ago, texastroubadour said:
what are the other 4?
He’s wrong they only have 3.
QuoteNCAA team championships
Texas Tech has won 3 NCAA team national championships.
Men's (2)
Indoor Track and Field (1): 2024
Outdoor Track and Field (1): 2019
Women's (1)
Basketball (1): 1993
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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:
So where do I watch who was announced MVP?
Its on ESPN+.
they already said it was TK.
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Fuck yeah, Hook’em ladies!
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Some big pussies on this thread.
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3 outs, 6 outs…don’t give a shit
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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Cat’s thirsty.
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6 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:
Mendoza going on and on about the rule needing to change, but the rulebook is clear. If the runner would have clearly been out, in the judgement of the umpire, no obstruction is called. It's akin to uncatchable on PI in football. The rule is fine. Umps are fucking idiots, as we saw over and over tonight.
Mendoza=WOOD
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Let’s fucking go!
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Fuck Tech and fuck these video replay cunts
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Last year Iowa State would have made the 16 team playoff along with Arizona State in the 44/22/13 model.
With the 5/11 model Iowa State would have been out just like with the current 12 model.
I just don’t see how turning down a free playoff spot most years is in anyway beneficial to the Big 12. If they have multiple years as a single bid league they will not be able to justify a potential 2nd bid the next time this comes up for negotiation and TV viewership will start treating Big 12 football like they treat other one bid leagues in basketball (where they only watch the championship game).
This would destroy the Big 12.
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21 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
I think Klatt's missing the mark here. I think the committee will frequently screw over the Big 12 with odes to "eye test" and "good losses", but at least they (the Big 12) aren't publicly saying "we're signing up for a guaranteed less". They're also planting a bit of a strategic flag in saying "we know we'll get less than we want some times, but it's the right thing for the good of the sport". I think at this point most Big 12 officials are more interested in staying in the game than maximizing revenue in the short term. Especially when the playoff gets reformed every single year.
The Big 12 isn't super likely to get more bids this way, but I don't think that's what they're after in this negotiation.
Which is dumb. He/they care more about perception than reality.
I’m good with either option but from the Big 12’s point of view Klatt is 100% correct, this is a horrible move.
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Fuck OU!
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Just now, Gut Wagon said:
Two outs and she'd have scored standing up.
Yeah I was pissed she didn’t score until I realized they only had one out.
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I just accidentally cussed in front of my kids when she hit that bomb.
Something like fucking shit fuck
Fuck OU
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Realignment talk not going away
in Football
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Yes the AAC’s TV deal is better…for now.
Memphis and Tulane are getting a bigger share of it so they aren’t going anywhere other than if they are invited by the P4…for now.
Moving to the Sun Belt would be a clear step down for the AAC teams, I simply stated that in Louisiana Tech’s nonP4 dream scenario that is the best case scenario what they could wish for.