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  1. OSU/WSU get CFP money for 2 more years. They have the ability to block the 5+7 move but it hurts them and spurs their relationship with the rest.

    The only reason they are waiting to join/merge with the MWC is that they make MORE money doing this 2 team conference on their own. Their TV deal expired but some of their other deals (like bowls/sponsorships) go for 2 more years.

    They are paying the MWC to join their TV deal for football and for games because it’s makes them more money than just joining outright. Otherwise the likely merger would already be done.

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  2. 23 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    Desmond is ‘garded. Herbstreit will do literally anything for money. I’d start there. 

    Herby won’t do it because he calls many of those big games so he won’t pick them.

    Desmond won’t do it because they are (rightly or wrongly) overly concerned with not making the only black guy on the panel be the clown (no CR).

    I get many don’t like McAfee but the simple solution is the obvious solution. Occam’s Razor says McAfee is going to be the guy that puts on the mascot head when Corso finally makes his exit. People just need to get used to that idea.

  3. On 2/9/2024 at 8:23 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

    Pat was already hosting his daily show from the Gameday sites right? I could see ESPN building that out, and Pat appears on a segment or two on Gameday. 

    Saban is a big enough personality to replace Pat and Corso. It wouldn't take much to improve the show. I think this the nudge they needed. 

    So who do you think put the mascot head on? That’s the iconic bit they aren’t going to retire with Corso. You need a big personality to pull that off. McAfee is the obvious person. Desmond, Kirk, or Saban ain’t doing it. At one time I thought Mack Brown might be able to pull it off but then he went back to coaching…

  4. 1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

    Serious question-what is on the short term horizon for NIL in “club sports” that can stay outside title IX?

    NIL is 100% outside of the University and not subject to title IX. The big question is if football splits off from the AD and is no longer subject to title IX then what happens to women sports?

    Popular sports like volleyball and softball are likely fine, and those with male counterparts like track/tennis/golf/swimming are okay too, but if I were a coach of w soccer or rowing I’d be worried.

    I’d hope that the school would keep them all use this opportunity to expand and add men’s soccer or lacrosse but if they are paying out athletes directly it likely won’t go that way.

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  5. “Indoctrination” would be having a class on human sexuality and spending 90% on LGBTQ topics. A class specifically about LGBTQ isn’t indoctrination at all unless they required students to take it.

    You can argue, whether a class like this is needed but there are likely hundreds of classes that you could say the same things about. Back in the day I took history of rock and roll, children’s literature, and human sexuality as electives. They were entertaining and I did learn some new things which provided a more well rounded educational experience but weren’t necessarily essential to my degree plan.

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  6. 5 hours ago, Okie State said:

    It sounds like maybe he thinks the BIG and SEC should be getting more than 8-9 of the 12 spots?

    If he refers to me then I don’t know how you got that. I point blank said the SEC/B1G would not get 9. I’d set the over/under at 7.5.

    That being said allowing a Liberty level school a permanent spot over their 2-3 loss team is what’s pissing them off. If they go full at large then that problem goes away.

  7. 15 minutes ago, statsman said:

    This past year, in the final Dec. 3 rankings, FSU was ACC champ. Next ACC team was Louisville at 15 (not in). Highest of the new B12 was Arizona at 14. Notre Dame was 16. 
     
    We have debated here- who is more deserving of an at large bid- a two loss B12 team or a three loss SEC/B1G team? The SEC and B1G are pushing their chips in. 

    This year was not like most years we all know that. Washington and Oregon, Texas and OU would be adding some losses to the SEC/B1G side. Remove those teams and you remove more losses. Arizona lost to USC/Wash but they won’t play going forward. It’s all going to balance out with the weaker ACC/Big12 #2 having better looking teams by record than the 3rd/4th place SEC/B1G team, rightly or wrongly.

  8. 2 minutes ago, statsman said:

    No. The P4 conference champs are in. One G5 conference champ is in. That leaves seven at large. The B12 or ACC might get an extra team in, but not both. 
     
    Baseline should be 8-9 SEC and B1G teams in 12 team playoff 

    It’ll never be nine if you’re giving out 3 other autobids. One of Big12/ACC will get 2 most years and you still have ND sitting out there. That’s why the SEC wants to get rid of them and go all at large.

  9. 10 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

    I think Saban will actually be a plus addition and will be able to be more loose and funny now that he's not wearing the coach hat.  Can he please replace MClownAfee?

    Nope he’ll be the Corso replacement.

    Saban replaces him as the coach on the panel.

    Mcafee replaces him as the clown.

    Sometime in the near future you’ll have:

    Desmond, Reese, Saban, Mcafee, and Herbie with Mcafee putting on the mascot heads.

    Just have to figure out how to not piss everyone off by kicking Corso off the show before he’s ready to go.

  10. 24 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

    Because they dropped below the research grant dollars metric required for AAU membership, IIRC.

    The AAU also changed the formula to reduce ag subsidies as no longer dollar for dollars which hurt schools like Nebraska and Iowa State.

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  11. 14 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

    I thought the Big12 had copyrighted Big14, 16, 18, etc. Now would be the time for a re-branding.

    They did at one point. Not sure how long those are good for if they never use them.

    Either way, right now is NOT the time to rebrand. The Big 12 brand has outlasted the PAC12 and looks to be in a good spot to beat out the ACC too.

    Change the name to the Big16 and the casual fan isn’t going to know what that refers to for a few years. You lose the identity that was built around OU and UT which still gives some credence to them being a Power conference.

    On top of that, if the ACC falls apart, and the “Big 16” adds 4 more are you just going to rebrand again?

    The wisest moves is to stand pat, wait for the ACC drama to unfold and then pick up the best pieces (Pitt, Louisville, VA Tech, NCSU). Then might be the best time to rebrand as the Big Twenty or BigXX, or maybe even something without numbers.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

    When the eventual "super conference" is broken up into divisions that pretty much mirror the conferences circa 2015 all of the characters involved in the implosion of the Pac 12 should be summarily executed.  Kliavkoff and Larry Scott really deserve it based on their complete ineptitude of the last 2 decades.

    They will just withOUT the Oregon State, Baylor, and Wake Forests of the world.

  13. 28 minutes ago, royiv said:

    The same chorus of idiots would be moaning if the Big 12 told the schools to drop the previously scheduled noncon games. With noncon games scheduled so far in advance the only thing that they would have been able to fill the holes with would have been an FCS opponent. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Some people just have a weird obsession with bitching about a conference that they're leaving. 

    Washington State and Oregon St were available to play and are playing more MWC schools than agreed to because they were already scheduled as out of conference matchups. It would have been that difficult to arrange that if everyone involved was competent.

    These were the OOC game before the changes:

    K State v Arizona, Baylor v Utah
    Oregon St v SDSU, Washington St v SJSU (these could have been MW conference games)

    cancel and schedule each other it’s ain’t too difficult 

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  14. 2 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

    Wasn't the Longhorn Network the reason why UT couldn't switch conferences until it expired? I thought every other conference was against individual networks for schools. Kind of like Notre Dame, nobody will take them as a full member with many of their games tied up in that NBC contract, but they were unwilling to let that go. 

    If anything, A&M is lucky they moved when they did, because they certainly wouldn't be first choice to add for the SEC or B1G right now. More likely they get left behind in the Big 12 with Ok State and Texas Tech. Then it comes down to which is better: being a 7-10 win team in a bad conference, or being a 5-9 win team in a great conference? 

    We could leave the LHN at any time if we changed conferences. That had nothing to do with it, because the LHN still had another 7 years left on the contract.

    The only thing keeping us in the Big12 was the GOR.

    As much as we enjoy to shit on aggy, they absolutely would be the first choice in realignment for the Big Ten.

    Adding a Texas school that can draw 100k to a game and even more in eyeballs sandwiched between Houston, DFW, Austin, and San Antonio would be the equivalent of adding Rutgers and NYC’s 9 million tv sets for FOX and the BTN, but with better fan support.

    The main reason aggy is valuable is because the Big Ten/FOX want OhioSt/Michigan/Pedo/USC to play games and get more fan in the state of Texas and that’s the same reason the SEC wants to hold on to them as well just to keep them out.

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  15. 7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    Psssst.  It's because Bibi doesn't intend on their being a "Gaza" when this is over.  He's making that more and more clear every day.  "Gaza" will just be "the part of Israel that's on the sea, with no arabs in it."

    You’re probably correct except the no Arabs part. I doubt they can move that many people out without significant international pressure. I see them likely just taking control and occupying Gaza like everyone has accused them of doing for years. We can argue whether they should morally or ethically but I think it’s the most likely action at this point for Israel no matter how one feels about it.

    Allowing foreign aid in unchecked has not helped anyone other than Hamas. If they can control Gaza and distribute that aid to those truly in need then maybe thing might actually get better for everyone even if it’s clearly not an idealistic solution.

  16. 9 hours ago, statsman said:

    It’s clear that they are trying to put their most attractive games (and BU-TCU) on dates without significant competition. See Oct. 12. 
     
    The B12 knows what they are, and are trying to get the most out of it. 
     
    I suspect this is why they are last with the schedule. There is one time slot they have a shot at (Fox mid afternoon Saturday) and they want to get it. Future revenue will be based on ratings and they don’t want to do something stupid like counter program the RRS with a TT-OSU game. 

    Agree think it’s a smart strategy. Play around the P2 conferences, avoid playing your best games in head to head competition with their blockbusters and do your best to capitalize where you can. If Texas isn’t playing (like in Nov2nd) put up a Baylor/TCU game and see if you can get any of that audience to watch an in state match up. Do the same with Okie St, UCF, and any others you can.

  17. Big 12 gets a pity mention in ESPN’s “must watch” cfb games of 2024. (The ACC games are weak also).

    https://athlonsports.com/college-football/espn-names-eight-cant-miss-college-football-games-for-2024-season-georgia-alabama-texas-michigan
     

    Miami at Florida (which coach is going to get fired first game)
    Texas at Michigan
    Georgia at Alabama
    Ohio St at Oregon
    Georgia at Texas
    Florida St at Notre Dame
    Michigan at Ohio St
    Utah at Oklahoma St

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  18. 9 hours ago, ButtFumble said:

    https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3438030

    I present one of the dumbest takes in sports history

    Unpopular opinion re: Bama

    They're not that great a program, it's not a destination job, and with Saban leaving they will fall into relative mediocrity for the next decade.

    Pre-NIL, Saban could have taken a lot of programs to the success he has brought Bama. He was arguably on his way at LSU before bolting to the NFL. He just so happened to land at a school in Bama who had historically been great a few generations before he got there, but if he had ended up at Georgia or Tennessee or Texas or even here he could have replicated the success he's had for the past 16 years.

    Now Bama has to compete with everyone else having the same advantages and opportunities that they do, and without their legendary coach. Meanwhile, Smart has Georgia on their way to becoming the next dynasty and they've already shown they can adapt to the new landscape in college football.

    I think Bama's run at the top is over, and the rise of the next era of college greatness will be achieved by schools who have not traditionally been the blue bloods and perennial favorites.

    I just was having a similar talk with one of my neighbors yesterday, but it was more along the lines of Bama is a top ten job but maybe not a top five job due to NIL, smaller state population, lack of nearby metro areas, and increased competition. 

    Program success doesn’t necessarily correspond to job desirability, for example Clemson has been a top 10 program for a decade but is clearly not a top ten job.

    However, to say that they are not a great program or not a destination job is just asinine. Bama could turn into 2000-2020 Tennessee for the next 20 years and they’d still likely be a top ten job.

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