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  1. Right now the SEC and Big Ten are similar enough to each other. If the Big Ten gets FSU, Clemson, Miami, and ND then the balance of power will shift to the North…not by a ton, but they would have the edge.

    FSU/Clemson is THE protection play. Keep the eyeballs on your product and off your opponents. FSU/Clemson vs USC/Michigan/Oregon/Ohio St etc would be really bad for the SEC.

    These two teams, like Texas and OU have been a top watch nationally DESPITE playing a weak conference slate. Putting them in either of the power 2, would put their viewership numbers on steroids.

    The SEC without FSU would be their first step towards becoming the AFL to the Big Ten’s NFL.

    Dont get me wrong Texas, OU, Bama, LSU, Florida, Georgia will be fine either way, but if you’re Mississippi State or Vandy, you should be pushing the SEC to pull out all the stops and get FSU/Clemson into the SEC asap. If the Big Ten grabs the best remaining then they’ll simply outnumber the SEC 2 to 1 and will be able to direct the future of elite college football to their liking.

  2. 4 hours ago, closetohumping said:

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    Arkansas is 28, MississippiState with a new coach is 35, and Vandy comes in at a semi respectable 40 (which for reference, would make them #4 in the Big12, #8 in the ACC, and #14 in the Big Ten)

    The Big Ten is who you would expect (tOSU, UO, USC, UM, Pedo) along with Nebraska and Wisconsin and NOT Washington (coming in at 36).

    ACC is who you’d expect (Mia, FSU, Clem) with UNC and NCSU coming in at 26/27.

    Big 12 is just Tech who is being propped up by their single legacy 5 star.

    ND also is in the top 25 as usual.

     

    To tie this back to realignment.

    I firmly believe FSU/Clemson will be at least offered a spot in the SEC when the time comes. You cannot have two teams in the middle of your recruiting hotbed, that have a history of attracting elite talent, going to your only true competitor.

    #3 Miami will be invited to join the Big Ten and I think #30 Stanford and #34 Georgia Tech  will also eventually be pulled in along with #10 Notre Dame in a decade or so. Markets and recruiting areas. That would get them to 22, and they’d battle for UNC/UVA with the SEC for those last 2 spots. If they miss on those flagships, do they go after #27 NCSU and #42 VT or do they look at Arizona State and a school like Colorado as a bridge?

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  3. 12 hours ago, F250 said:

    Apparently it just requires not giving a shit and self-medication (Sumlin style).

    Thinking about it, I'd probably just end up looking like Elko after several years of alcoholism and daily trips to Truth BBQ in Brenham with a stop at Blue Bell.

    You likely die of listeria before you got round enough to look like Elko.

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  4. 9 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    This is why there needs to be a 16-20 (not 32, not 40) school division of straight blue bloods that only play each other.  2/3rds of the new Big 10 can't compete with the top 1/3rd as it is.  Iowa was 10-3 and they weren't remotely competitive with the upper tier of that conference.  There are 6/18 Big 10 schools (OSU, Mich, Pedo, Oregon, Washington, USC) that are capable of fielding truly high end competitive squads with any regularity.  In the SEC that number is a little higher (UT, OU, LSU, Florida, Bama, Georgia and then maybe Aggy, Auburn, and Tennessee from a financial standpoint).  Toss in FSU, Notre Dame, and Clemson, and that's it.  No one else is on that tier.

    The bottom 2/3rds of the Big 10 and bottom half of the SEC should be playing in the same spot as the Big 12 and ACC.  And that should be its own tier separate from the G5, which those schools are light years ahead of (see what happened to Big 12 newcomers).

    Funny enough, I’ve thought the same thing, while it’s not perfect I think stadium size does a pretty good job separating the top 1/3 of the P5 (1/5 of the FBS). While not perfect, it does generally correlate to fan support.

    FBS stadiums of team with 70K+: Michigan, Penn St, Ohio St, aggy, LSU, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, UCLA***(not on campus and never full), Florida, Auburn, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Clemson, Florida St, Notre Dame, South Carolina, USC, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Michigan St, Washington, and Iowa* (technically at 69k but record attendance is 70k).

    Honorable mentions:

    Virginia Tech and Ole Miss at 66k

    Oregon at 60k

    A few towards the bottom that could be dropped down but despite the methodology the results are not horrible if they were to make a top tier football division.

  5. On 12/9/2023 at 2:34 PM, Gatorubet said:

    Since the eyes will be on New Orleans for the sugar bowl this year, that usually results in the sporadic sweeps of homeless people and their tents under the I-10 overpass, as the city does not want to present itself as a place with a lot of people shitting on the sidewalk and screaming at you.

    True, the city collectively cares about them on the days the temperature drops to freezing. Then their overwhelming concern kicks in - and they give them a place to stay until it warms up. Which here is a week,   Then it’s back to the normal “We don’t give a fuck about whether you live or die” mentality.

    New Orleans might just leave the homeless alone this year to make the universities from Austin and Seattle feel at home.

  6. 5 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

    So where is the line drawn? There aren’t an infinite number of colors, and there are many examples of teams having the same color combos 

    The line is drawn either where they settle or where the court decides.

    The Titans own the old Oilers brand. They send a cease and desist to UH. UH can ask for clarification on where the Titans would be satisfied that they are no longer threatening their trademark/brand.

    If the Titans say remove the stripes and UH agrees then that is the line. If the Titans try and claim that ANY use of those colors is unacceptable to them then UH can ignore the cease and desist and make the Titans take them to court to legally determine where the line is.

    As I stated before, the color combinations is likely not something that would be enforceable but the colors and the stripes is likely a bridge too far.

  7. 5 hours ago, TexArcher said:

    I'd truly like to know what AI could come up with using Stephen A Smith and Pat McAfee as models.

    It really couldn't be worse.

    I’m not too sure about that…it can always be worse

     

  8. 12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    FSU has a legit beef but their anger should be at a system rewarding 4 teams from 5 conferences.  Unless FSU and the ACC are on record as previously stating that the CFP was flawed and they actively worked to reform it, then they need to STFU.


    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33371549/acc-pac-12-big-ten-commissioners-push-back-college-football-playoff-expansion-critics
     

    From Feb 25, 2022

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    Last Friday, the CFP announced it will remain a four-team playoff for the next four years -- a decision that was made with an 8-3 vote of the 10 FBS commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick. 
     

    Mississippi State president Mark Keenum, the chair of the CFP's board of managers, publicized the vote, revealing the Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12 voted against the 12-team proposal.

    If the ACC and their “Alliance” had passed this vote the 12 team playoff would have started this year. So they were in favor of keeping the format that ultimately fucked them.

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  9. 1 minute ago, markstanco said:


    What? A rumor that leaked out from Mike norvell where he or his staff said they would get smoked by Georgia? What a great message to send to a team who is undefeated.

    Got damn man get it together. Don’t believe everything you hear.

    lol yeah never said I believed it, because it was stupid as shit.

    Quickest way to turn the whole country against them and squander their goodwill victim pity parade would be to pull a dumbass stunt like that.

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  10. 3 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

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    They're not actually gonna boycott the Orange Bowl...are they???

     

    Rumor was that they know they’ll get smoked by Georgia, so they’ll sit out the bowl in protest and claim a UCF style national title.

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  11. 11 hours ago, dec3169 said:

    How many years before they change to a 16 team field, or maybe have a 14 team field with the next 4 teams in a 2 game playoff for the last 2 spots?

    I don’t think it will anytime soon, but that’s just my opinion. I think it will hold like this until the next major realignment in 2035 (FSU).

    Between conference consolidation and a possible DI split I see the SEC/B1G being satisfied with 3-4 spots a year.

    Just think how different next year will be. Texas/OU in the SEC would have added losses and bumped a school like Mizzou or Ole Miss out of the top 12. Same goes for UW/UO in the Big Ten removing Iowa/Pedo as well. SMU’s two loss season would be part of the ACC bumping Louisville down and Arizona would be battling K State, Okie St, Utah, Kansas, Iowa St for the Big 12.

    I don’t think we need major debates on how many 3 loss teams or G5 teams are being left out, so this model should hold for some time.

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  12. It’s going to 12 teams with autobids to the highest ranked 6 champions (likely dropping to 5 with the death of the PAC12).

    The SEC and Big Ten champs will always get in and I assume the Big 12 and ACC champ will too, unless they go the way of the Big East.

    The controversy over autobids will be at the G5 level between the MWC, AAC, and others. See this year Liberty getting a NY6 bowl over SMU. Still somewhat a beauty contest.

    After that it will be mostly comparing 2/3 loss non champs against each other for those final spots.

    If in place this year that would be Oregon, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Pedo, OU, Iowa, LSU, Arizona, Louisville, ND

    Do you give preference to CCG participants like Oregon/Iowa/Louisville? Is it SOS/SOR based? Player availability? Game control? That bullshit will still be around but at far lower stakes and I think that might be for the best as it will allow multiple teams to think that they still have an outside chance of hitting that gutshot straight and weaseling their way into the playoffs.

    I think that system would actually be better than the NFL’s wildcard where you 100% know the outcome. But maybe that’s just my unpopular opinion.

  13. The FCS gives autobids to conference champs and IS STILL A BEAUTY PAGEANT for their at large teams…just like the basketball tournament. Just nobody nationally cares about those left out since the field is already bloated.

    The NFL gives bids to their division champs and sets criteria for their wildcards. That is not a beauty pageant but that can’t be done the same way in college football, because FBS does NOT have the same parity as the NFL. To do this the P4 would need to breakaway from the G5 at a minimum to limit the field and then maybe you could get close to NFL scenarios but with salary caps, a draft, transfer portal restrictions it’s still not going to be close to the same.

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