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Posts posted by TKthunder2
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On 9/21/2024 at 12:20 AM, TKthunder2 said:
When not complete dog shit, Ohio State and Michigan are a major ratings pull on the OTA networks, even when they play scrubs (like Marshall) they pull 2.5 million viewers, and if it’s a team with anything remotely close to a brand or rank they get 5 million. If that Clemson game is close it can beat it, but I’m skeptical that matchup can break the 3 million mark (Clemson isn’t that type of program, and unranked NCSU already has a loss).
No way Clemson beat Ohio State today.
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Love stadium mode (currently at DKR) but needs a sort function, hard to quickly see the active scores with all the final ones intermixed.
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I wonder how much longer Mack is going to coach? Seems like he should know by now that he can’t turn UNC into a playoff team…
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14 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:
Also where the Big Fox noon game is, another suspect decision on their part. It will be interesting to see if the ABC NCSt/Clemson takes that noon spot and by how much.
When not complete dog shit, Ohio State and Michigan are a major ratings pull on the OTA networks, even when they play scrubs (like Marshall) they pull 2.5 million viewers, and if it’s a team with anything remotely close to a brand or rank they get 5 million. If that Clemson game is close it can beat it, but I’m skeptical that matchup can break the 3 million mark (Clemson isn’t that type of program, and unranked NCSU already has a loss).
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1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:
Can you imagine being a fan at that game?
For 3.5 hrs and then see 10 minutes real time like that?I work with a group based out of Lincoln, I know at least a dozen people who are there tonight. As much as I love seeing corn lose, I hate listening to them bitch the week after. If they drop another one before Ohio State they’ll begin to shut the fuck up.
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#12 Utah and #14 Oklahoma State are playing tomorrow at 3pm on FOX. It’s predicted to be a close competitive game (OkSt-1) of the two top undefeated teams in the conference.
and where is the FOX Big Noon pregame show???
They are at the undefeated #3 Ohio State vs unranked 1-1 Marshall who lost to Virginia Tech 14 to 31 (who lost to Vanderbilt) in a game that is expected to be a 40 point blowout (tOSU -40).
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7 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
I don't think the Big 10 has a ton of low quality, but more like a ton of average-ish. Once you get past maybe 4-5 schools out of 18, the profiles of many of the schools are more like the Big 12 and ACC than they are the top of the league. After Ohio State, the Big 10 probably doesn't have a single team capable of winning the national title. Maybe USC? The SEC has 4-5. Iowa was supposed to be pushing for an at large playoff spot and lost at home to the team picked 6th in the Big 12.
Part of the reason they have that many of the top 30 public athletic departments is because they're so well compensated for having Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State previously (and now have USC in that mix). The SEC is a far more even collection of schools, IMO.
I have zero love for the Big Ten but I disagree with your assessment. If we’re just going off who can win a national title, then yeah it’s a down year for the Big Ten, but even then they have more than Ohio St. Penn St, USC, Oregon, and maybe even Nebraska (look at their schedule) could all be playoff teams. But when we’re talking about realignment, year to year isn’t that important as you can discount Michigan’s value just because they are down a little a year after winning it all.
To your tier list, sure, the Big Ten has 5 blueblood or near blueblood schools in Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, USC, and Nebraska that the Big 12 has no chance to match but they also have another 5 schools that would still clearly at the very top of the upper echelon of the Big 12.
You might be able to argue that Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin, Michigan St, and Iowa wouldn’t be number one in the Big 12, but even if true, they would absolutely be in the top quartile at a minimum.
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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:
One elephant in the room in the future is the quality gap between the Big 10 and SEC. The Big 10 just isn't that deep with elite teams. 2/3rds of the league are Big 12/ACC schools with nicer, richer parents. The SEC is about 25% schools that fit that bill, by comparison.
I agree with your premise, but disagree that the gap is as big as 25% low quality in SEC vs 66% low quality in the Big Ten. Don’t get me wrong, the Big Ten is weaker pound for pound but it’s likely 25% vs 40%.
There are 24 FBS home stadiums with 70k+ capacity where the college team is the main tenant. (#25 drops to 66k -Virginia Tech)
Of those, the SEC has 11, and the Big Ten has 10. (Others are FSU, Clemson, ND)
The top 30 public athletic departments revenue for 2023:
SEC has 14 and the Big Ten has 12 (Others are UVA, FSU, Clemson, Louisville)
Since the start of the BCS 22 teams have played in a CFP or BCSNCG. The SEC has 8 while the Big Ten had 7. (Others FSU, VT, Miami, Clemson, ND, Cincy, TCU)
These numbers fairly are similar but when you remember that the Big Ten has 18 teams while the SEC only has 16 their differences are more apparent.
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4 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
ISU is closer to the KS schools and OK State than it is to any of the eastern schools
You can say the same the about Houston too.
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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:
AZ/UT
Big 8 Central time
CU/TT/Cen Tex
Coog/Eastern time
Easy enough. Swap CU/OSU if the Pokes have a problem with it.
I mean, yes fuck cougar high, but I’m sure their admin want to play tech, rape, and the roaches every year.
can it be done, sure, but it’s just not clean, they could very easily turn the table on ISU and make the map graphic look logical…
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Is there a site that publishes the weekly injury report?
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2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
In my perfect world, we would be in a permanent pod with you guys, KU, and KSU.
The ISU/OSU series has been absolutely wild almost every year since ‘11. I don’t think it’s a rivalry, but it’s absolutely a game both fanbases are on edge for.
Pods would have been nice but having only 3 in the East and 5 in the West sorta fucked everything up. If you could go back in time and take a school like Memphis, USF, UConn over BYU it would have lined up nicely.
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13 minutes ago, Pimphand said:
They’ll say it’s a down Georgia team plagued by injury. It’s literally the same playbook from what they said last year when we beat Bama “Its a down Bama that still hadn’t figured out their QB situation.”
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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:
Those who want college football to be the NFL but with college team names love the super league idea.
Just to be clear. What many of us want and what we think is the most profitable and probable are not mutually exclusive.
I’m happy with the new 16 team SEC and I doubt I’ll ever get used to the Big Ten being in LA/PNW but I still recognize that for USC it’s the most profitable move.
I think a true 40 team NFL lite super league might be most profitable, but is not probable due to antitrust concerns.
I prefer a playoff that is competitive and inclusive but if those games don’t get eye balls then they are unlikely to remain as permanent fixtures.
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42 minutes ago, LTbear said:
Ya I'm assuming something has to be up that makes the ACC think they might lose.
I believe this was FSU and Clemson proposing a settlement as a part of their court ordered mediation. But yes, the GOR for live state run performances has not been tested and after Texas and Oklahoma got away early from the Big 12 for next to nothing, I don’t think the ACC is feeling super confident in going to court.
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1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:
It seems inevitable, but I hope the super league never happens.
Not that I like the NCAA. I don't. It’s shit. But one of the most beautiful aspects of college football is the unpredictability. The huge upsets. Northern Illinois beating Notre Dame in their house.
If every game is a power team vs a power team, this becomes the NFL with marching bands and college students. We lose so much of the unpredictability and awesomeness.
I'll go yell at some clouds now.
I personally don’t think you’ll see a true super league, ironically I think we’ll see the 12 team playoff as a turning point going back to the old bowl system (hear me out).
SEC and Big Ten see the bulk of the 12 team playoff selections and the other games against the B12/ACC/G5 are mostly non competitive (Cincy) or they win the first round and fail the second round (TCU/UGA) which damages the product overall. At the same time more pressure will be placed on CCGs and especially the loser (or winner if they go to 16).
The best solution would be to bring the majority of the playoffs in house. CCG weekend becomes round one of a 4 team conference playoff. The 1&2 seed host home games, then round two on NYD becomes the new CCG (SEC at Atlanta, Big Ten in the Rose which solves 2 major issues for them). Then two weeks later the winners of these games play against each other in a BigTen/SEC challenge (not an official national championship, but it is defacto).
After this we go back to the old bowl/poll system. The round 1 playoff losers can play in the bowls versus Big 12/ACC/G5 teams just like they always have. They can still do a NY6 type bowl arrangement and have contractual bowl games so this avoids many of the pitfalls of antitrust because it’s just going back to a previous system.
SEC and Big Ten keep what they kill. Early OOC games and bowl games can still be played. I think this is a more likely future especially since it came out that the networks considered the first round playoff games to less than desirable. The expansion to 12 was to satisfy the B12/ACC/G5/ND but if the Big Ten/SEC can do their own thing and each get 4 spots where their games are more valued, this seems like the most obvious solution especially if they add in ND/FSU/Clemson and a few others into the mix.
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Lots of thoughts where this can go. You can have a true super league where the best of Big Ten and SEC split off and form a new league. You can have a partnership model where both leagues remain separate and just negotiate a single post season game together where the winners of their individual conference only playoff play each other. You can have a deal where they basically continue as is but grow and raise the cost of entry until it’s only a few conferences participating at the elite level. They can split off from the NCAA entirely, or just breakaway team sports or revenue sports. It’s hard to tell what the future may bring and there are a lot of lawsuits and TV money that could significantly change what direction the winds may blow. But above it all, getting into the SEC or Big Ten is the safest bet, which is why you’ll continue to see FSU/Clemson and UNC pushing to join.
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1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:
I don't know the answer, but I think I know the question: where does ESPN want FSU?
If they were a completely free agent they’d want them in the SEC. The whole argument that they already have the states of Florida and South Carolina is overblown. It’s no longer about tv footprints/markets, it’s about how many eyeballs watch and will pay to watch your program.
FSU/Clemson along with ND are the only 3 remaining programs that have a top 25 stadium by capacity that are not already in the Big Ten or SEC. Clemson/UGA pulled 8 million viewers in week one and FSU’s first 2 games against weak competition were over 4 million. In week 3 FSU’s game against Memphis was the highest rated game on ESPN that day.
FSU/Clemson in the SEC equals even more big games. It would be a great opportunity for ESPN…if they were free agents but they are not. ESPN has them for cheap until 2036.
ESPN has been cutting costs and even though FSU/Clemson would bring in some more viewers, it’s not worth paying them another $50million a year. ESPN is a business and won’t pay out money for a product that is only marginally better than what they currently have.
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Ole Miss/Kiffin beat Wake Forest so bad they are paying $1 million to not travel to Oxford next year for a second blow out.
pretty shitty if you ask me
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Will the cops be reading chat too? Asking for a friend.
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3 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:
It’s not his job to stop his own team but, as I understand it, this was a call made by the kicker based on formation.
Tennessee offered shortened quarters for the second half and Kent State declined. Tip of the hat to Kent State for that.
Tennessee allows the kicker to audible an on side kick? That’s…?…?…?…bold…
FINAL 2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#3 (CFP/AP/Coaches)
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Still number 2 in coaches poll.
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll