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  1. 38 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    WHO GOVES A SHIT JUST FUCKING WIN YOU GOT DAMN MORON. 

     

     

    You can degrade the guy however you like and continue to destroy the party once senate dems have majority which is what dems always do and fuck themselves out of power and popularity. Fucking moron. 

    If you think a guy who had an SS tattoo until literally yesterday has a chance in hell of beating Susan Collins you’re out of your mind.

  2. 1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

    I get both instincts: sympathy and disgust.

    I share your sympathy for them.  They were born in a shit town that was dying through no fault of their own.  hey don't have the education or skills to make the town attractive to any industry, and they don't have the wherewithal to attain the education necessary to be successful in the modern economy.  That shit's fucking hopeless.  And it's even more hopeless for them in a society that broadcasts to them the successes of people who had the good fortune of just being born a couple hundred miles away.

    But I also share in the disgust.  The rural poor in America live in circumstances and with opportunities the rural poor across most of the rest of the world could only dream of.  Shit--the reason the rural poor have a feeling of having been left behind is that they have been left behind--literally--by anybody with the least little bit of intelligence and ambition, who left those shit towns ages ago to find better lives in Boston or New York or even fucking Providence.  And I can't feel much but disgust for someone who is prevented from improving his circumstances simply by relocating to a real city by nothing more than his own fear and inertia.

    Before 2016, my sympathy outweighed the disgust.  But then they decided to declare war on the rest of the country.  So now, fuck them. 

    Yeah, I keep coming back to the fact that Biden really did believe in the political efficacy of materially investing in left behind areas and Dems did that under Biden. Most of the infrastructure and manufacturing investment was disproportionately targeted to exurban and rural areas.  Hell, deaths of despair in rural areas even began decreasing under Biden.  But rural folks if anything hated Dems and minorities even more by November 2024 than they did in November 2016. It's real hard to remain sympathetic. 

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  3. 7 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

    I'm not voting for him because I don't live there, but I do think he's the least bad option in that particular race.

    None of us know a single thing about 7 of the 9 options in that race man. 

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  4. 6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

    So this guy will be another one of those elected democrats that switches over to the GQP the second after he's sworn into office? 

    Most likely he's another Sinema.

  5. 4 minutes ago, G650 said:

    Several people are trying to tell you that this is 100% not the case but you just don't want to hear it.

    I didn't say it's more known, I said it's arguably more offensive. Men wearing that fucking symbol gassed some of my family, I'm pretty sure I've got the right to feel that way. 

  6. I get it, you're all fucking fried by the nazis winning again, especially Bozo. But they didn't win because everyone likes nazis now. They won because most people didn't believe they're nazis. There's a reason GOP senators are still folding when guys who are too publicly nazi are proposed for senate-confirmed positions, and it's that most people still hate obvious nazi shit.  Running a guy with a fucking nazi death camp tattoo won't increase the chances of winning a coin flip election against Susan Collins. This isn't "we should run the safest candidate," it's simply "this guy ain't fuckin it." He's going to continue to have more embarrassing shit like this come out, because he's at best a huge dumbass with no impulse control. And nominating him would be like if the GOP nominated a pro-abortion candidate: it would destroy the party. It's a big tent right now and we need to make room for a ton of people, but "no nazis allowed" is the party's whole fucking deal right now. 

  7. 22 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

    Leaving aside the somewhat marginal Nazi-ness of the totenkopf, did you think Al Franken should resign for simulating “tune-in Tokyo”?

    I thought it was pretty weak but didn't really have a huge problem with the party trying to draw a strict line against harassing women. Do you think his replacement has been bad at the job?

    ETA: and it's not somewhat marginally nazi, it's what their fucking death camp guards wore. It's arguably more offensive than the swastika. Trying to downplay it is some heinous shit man.

  8. 20 minutes ago, G650 said:

    The last few pages are why I have zero faith democrats will ever form a viable opposition.

    Why do you think “guy with a totenkopf tattoo” can be part of a viable opposition to Nazis?

  9. 1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

    Yes. Because the best way to get ahead in the US in 2025 is to be a secret Nazi not a completely out in the open Nazi 🙄

    "Let's plant a nazi in the Democratic party, we could probably sneak one through in a weird small state like Maine" would be far from the worst idea they've ever had.

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  10. 1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    Point of order, giant Nazi tattoos on potential recruits have long been more of a giant problem than an asset for the CIA. 

    Maybe it's become such a problem they literally didn't have any other options for their intended Senate candidate. 

  11. Chainsaw, "Politician says what I want to hear" is supposed to be the minimum they need to do to earn your vote, it's not supposed to mean you immediately agree to throw your basic sense and values into the garbage. I don't believe it's likely, but it's entirely possible that he's literally a fucking CIA plant they wanted to use to help steer voters on the left. His backstory could certainly align with that. Restless son of successful parents, joined the military to see action and got out and joined up with Blackwater to see more action. That's certainly a type of guy intelligence agencies like to recruit. But he said the right words about Gaza and used the term "oligarch" and now you're just gonna overlook all that plus a nazi death camp guard tattoo? A tattoo he clearly lied about and is only now removing while basically saying "fuck you if you got offended but yeah I guess I'll get rid of it"? 

    Again, this is not the redemptive arc you want it to be. He hasn't apologized, he hasn't demonstrated any growth, etc. He just said a few of the right things about a couple of topics you care about and you're willing to disregard a thousand red flags? You think the state that has re-elected fucking Susan Collins a hundred times is going to agree with you on this?

  12. No. I think the most likely explanation is he got it and kept it because he thought it looked cool and thought that it being a nazi symbol wasn't a big deal, because he's not particularly concerned about opposing fascism or white supremacy.

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  13. 1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

    I think he's omitting some unflattering stuff about his time being drunk in Croatia. Does it make him a Nazi? Not really. But the way he tells the story, like it was a groupthink bonding thing, sort of makes it sound like someone else made the decision for him.

    He's either lying about that (it was his choice) which is bad or he's downplaying the kind of shitheads he would hang out with while in the Marines, which is also bad. Seth Harp wrote a book about how some of these unsavory characters can operate within the military.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/fort-bragg-cartel-murders-1235394302/

    Now I won't go so far as to say he joined a gang-like organization while in the Marines, but it can't really be ruled out. And yes, it can't be ruled out that the organization was Nazi-adjacent or Nazi-sympathetic (like a prison gang would be).

    I can see how he would be ashamed of it, but like he said, if he believed it the tattoo itself stood for something that needed to be concealed, wouldn't he also have tried harder to cover it up?

    So, I don't really know what to make of it. More information could come out, and I will drop my support if it turns out he was lying or if it turns out he supports or condones white supremacy in any way.

    Think harder about this. 

  14. 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

    You're thinking about it from an educated perspective. An active duty jarhead in his early 20s barely knows other countries exist, let alone their history or where they are located.

    An active duty jarhead probably can't solve 2+6 correctly, but they're a lot more likely to recognize nazi military insignia. 

  15. How many fucking people do y'all think have nazi tattoos? What percentage of voters are you worried about alienating here? What percentage of voters do you think will be alienated by pretending that a candidate having a nazi tattoo shouldn't be a big deal? Think about the world in which "has a nazi tattoo" is a completely acceptable thing for a fucking Democratic candidate for public office to have. Think about what that would tell young men. Think about what it would tell Jews. Fuck, think about what it would tell all the young people who've recently been stomped on for advocating for Palestinian lives, which was characterized as unacceptable anti-Semitism.

    In two months those of you still stanning this guy are all going to be looking back at yourselves wondering how you could've been so dumb. I'm just trying to save y'all the time here. You know I'm right. 

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  16. 1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Is there any value to the notion that Platner, or a candidate like him, could argue that as a young man he was caught up in edgy internet culture, the precursors to groypers, and the "manosphere," but has come to realize how he was deceived and how wrong and immature those positions and policies behind them.  Thus, making him a "considered liberal" who has "been there and done that."

    He could've done that had he removed or altered the tattoo at literally any time before it became a political scandal. But he didn't and when he realized someone was going to report on it he ran to a friendly podcast to tell some obvious lies about it.  It's kinda hard to believe anything he says about it now.

  17. 1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

    Either he's a Nazi or he isn't. The only evidence we've seen that he's a Secret Nazi is pretty weak. Would he really buy into all that white supremacy bullshit without a crew of like-minded boneheads to whom he'd have by now been linked? That strikes me as pretty fucking odd.

    What does it mean to be a history buff anyways? Is it like people who do their own research about vaccines? What it comes down to for me is that if he ever was a Nazi he shouldn't be lying about that. The lies would be disqualifying.

    But let's be sober about this. We have plenty of dudes out there who got Nazi tattoos with varying degrees of awareness what they were doing at the time, and we want those guys to have a viable path towards renouncing those ideas and symbols and reintegrating with society. If the far right remains their only viable option, that leads to much worse scenarios. You end up on the JD Vance pipeline.

    Sitting here today in October 2025, there's far more evidence that Platner is an anti-fascist than there is evidence he's a Secret Nazi.

    The fuck there is. No real antifascist would walk around with a fucking nazi tattoo for 18 years!

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