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wildcat09

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  1. 6 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

     

    then:

    O'Donnell isn't dumb.  He's been on this rope swing forever.  He understands sourcing and has been sued previously by Trump (who lost).  

    Trump had no choice but to double down and threaten to sue for libel (discovery ha) to avoid having to provide any cogent responses to questions about his debt and DB financing. O'Donnell qualified the news as being 'single sourced' and hedged with "if true."  I think this is a legit source whose identity was never going to be shared, lawsuit or not.  It's a fair likelihood his single source is not prepared to take on Russian mob in retaliation.  Congress expects the Circuit court to rule in their favor and compel DB to turn over their records on Trump financials.  So the public should find out, most likely through impeachment.  Bear in mind Trump has once again potentially been drawn into another very significant public prevarication/lie to avoid any substantive reckoning in the immediate short term.  one day at a time.  kick the can.  fade emotions!  forget, forget!

    Trump's public twit-flailing and lack of planning has reduced him to continuous trench warfare for daily survival.

    Your neverending faith in the Dems in Congress is dumber than most of the shit Icono posts.

  2. 26 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Trump seems to understand Fox News better than Brit Hume does, and Hume works for Fox News.

    Brit is lying. He knows Fox News and everyone there are supposed to work for Trump while pretending otherwise.

  3. 4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

    that's the other component of it, of course. but education is the answer to a lot of our problems. Inside the "fake news" problem in particular, it is pretty prevalent. But if we make the institution more honorable and truthful, over time people will come to trust it again. cable news and the internet ruined the press for everyone

    While real news organizations have some problems that derive from corporate ownership's thirst for profits, overall there isn't even remotely a problem with real news organizations not being truthful. The problem is that a lot of people are stupid and have allowed themselves to be convinced that they're not truthful, not due to any evidence but because stupid people are easily manipulated.  No cultist, conspiracy theorist, or believer of any other completely illogical bullshit has ever had his mind changed by a rational explanation of evidence to the contrary.  I don't know why you think that would suddenly change.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

    Maybe create a governing body to certify journalists. Get certified with regular vetting to ensure standards are met. Everyone else is deemed "opinion". 

    Nobody would trust it (and for good reason). The only real solution is actually teaching people critical thinking skills so that they can evaluate the difference between a newspaper with rigorous editorial standards and shit like Quilette.

    In other words, we're fucked.

  5. 2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Trumps gonna start to lose some suburban men when they fully realize how much their 401ks have dropped. They won’t care how much the balance has risen under trump but rather how much it’s dropped over a past quarter or so. 

    over the past decade, the average 401k saver has become conditioned to continued growth. Dropping 5, 15, 25 or whatever percent isn’t going to play well in The Woodlands. Perhaps it won’t get them to vote for Warren but it could keep some of them home on Election Day. The Texas GOP needs suburban men in large counties to run up the score too offset urban counties.

    No he won’t, suburban men are his base.

  6. 11 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

    So, up till this point, the Trade war has largely gone as trade wars do: tit for tat.  Trump is a fool, the Chinese are proud and nationalistic, wash/rinse/repeat.

    Until yesterday.  To me, the Chinese decision to raise tariffs was less tit for tat, and more an attempt to bait Trump into going nuclear, thus damaging the already fragile global economy, and wrecking his reelection prospects.  In essence, the Chinese decided they'd rather undergo the pain of a full blown trade war now, in hopes they get a Democrat to negoatiate with in 18 months.

    And Trump took it, hook, line, and sinker.

    If they really wanted to infuriate him you'd think they'd just revoke all those trademarks they gave him and Ivanka right after he first took office.  Hell, maybe they did and it just hasn't been reported on.

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  7. Just now, Incredulity said:

    Thats right, they are working round the clock in Rhode Island on the boat allegation, not one single person corroborate Ramirez’s accusation and this one was totally a straight shooter with management written all over her

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    So fuck you too you virtue signaling cunt.

    How many death threats have you sent to Christine Blasey Ford?

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  8. 15 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    We reap that which we sow, do we not?

    And they sowed racism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism in the pursuit of a few extra billion. 

    And their harvest is Donald Trump, the dissolution of the Republican Party as a pro-business, fiscally conservative political party (to the extent it ever really was), and the destruction of the post-World War II global economic order that has led to a century of peace and prosperity of which they are among the greatest beneficiaries.  Truly, among the clearest fruits of their harvest was the 600-point decline on the DJIA on the day David died.

    And you know the best part--they knew what they have wrought.  That's clear from their recent comments in interviews and elsewhere; it's clear in their actions and political contributions.

    Seeing and understanding the consequences of your misconduct--that's a punishment.  Not a punishment that is going to satisfy the victims of that misconduct.  But it is a punishment.

    They spent something like $400 million to support the GOP in the 2018 midterms.

  9. 14 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    The chapter on FoxNews in history books 100 years from now is gonna be something else.  These screenshots will bring up the emotions we all have seeing civil rights protest pics.  The best (worst) is these dumb motherfuckers don't realize (or are proud) that they're the smiling hillybilly pointing at the hanging negro.  Yeah, that's you, motherfuckers.  Your family will be embarrassed of your existence from here til eternity.  

    Lulz at you thinking we're gonna have history books 100 years from now.

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  10. 26 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    I have some empathy for the Koch brothers.  They're good old-fashioned rich-guy business Republicans who just wanted to make an asston of money and needed government regulation not to prevent them from doing so.  The only thing unique about them was their extremity, both in their objectives and in the pursuit of those objectives.

    In pursuing their objectives by financing the Tea Party, they unwittingly facilitated the rise of the white-nationalist Party of Trump.  In that, they're not alone (I say as I look in the mirror).

    Unlike some others, they recognized what has become of the GOP.  Their donations went down significantly over the past four years.  That's to their (limited) credit.

    We all make bad decisions.  We just don't have the wherewithal to dump billions of dollars in furtherance of those bad decisions.  But even within my limited means, I often look at my bad decisions and the consequences caused by them and mournfully think "what the fuck have I done?".

    I can't imagine the scope of the "what the fuck have I done" that the Koch brothers ask themselves.

    They're arguably as responsible as any other people on earth for the fact that we're going to cook ourselves alive on this fucking planet. Fuck them.

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  11. 15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

     

    "If you criticize the unconstitutional surveillance state created by the IC, it is incompatible to also support government engagement in coordinating ethically conducted biomedical research to address some of our most pressing public health needs." - TotallyNormalBrains

    "I'm naturally suspicious of all governmental activity but believe the Trump administration will absolutely comply with the strictest ethical codes of conduct in establishing its precrime program." - TotallyNormalBrains

  12. Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

    I think the issue at hand is that your position historically has been the assumption that elements of the government do not adhere to rules and regulations that govern information gathering related to FISA. The same standard you set could easily transferred to this issue. Yet, you are all in on it. 

    Are you remotely surprised?

  13. 21 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

    The guy that bankrupted casinos wants to tell us how to run car companies. 

     

    Man I missed this somehow. Yesterday might have been the most bonkers day of his entire administration.  He compared himself to Jesus, wondering why American Jews didn't love him/Jesus, called them disloyal, then finished the day by promoting the asshole who introduced the American public to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Simply incredible.

  14. 24 minutes ago, elfenix said:

    i just jumped to a random spot (1:50) and he's completely misunderstanding section 230. 

    I'm sure he understands it just fine. He's just happy to misrepresent it.

  15. 2 hours ago, Axiom of Choice said:

    I much prefer to discuss the topics you mentioned over politics; I'd be happy to talk about them whenever you like.  Start a thread, join one of the other threads I've started, or shoot me a PM.  But why does the fact that I mock a distinct posting style make you jump to the conclusion that I am a partisan hack or that I care to defend Trump?  I didn't vote for Trump, I don't like Trump, I don't like the Republicans, I won't vote for Trump in this next election.  Some will think otherwise merely because I object to this forum becoming little more than an extension of mindless validation-seeking twitter rants. The nonexistent hive on this forum categorizes anyone who does not passionately repeat the required dogma as a Trump supporter.  There is a simple assessment of one of us or not one of us, if anyone says something we don't like, then not one of us and therefore a Trump supporter and Republican partisan hack.  Posters will repeatably claim "I'm not a Republican and don't like Trump" and they will be met with "That's exactly what a closet Trump supporter would say," like you all are on some crazed witch hunt.  I've been accused of all sorts of atrocities and over the top nonsense because I don't always fall lockstep in line with the group think.  So have many other long time posters.  But you think I am the one who has descended as a poster. 

    Love that @Anastasis liked this.

    "Look, nazis have the White House, the Senate, the judiciary, have established concentration camps, and are talking about setting up a precrime unit, but you guys who are concerned about those things have really just gone so overboard with how loudly you're denouncing them! It's almost as if you think these things are serious and not just part of the game!"

  16. 45 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    Bill Maher had a good bit a couple weeks ago that applies here. The relevant part to this topic is that if you were rich and white in America back then, you probably owned slaves. The first abolition society was formed in 1775 and consisted of 24 people (mostly Quakers). Bill jokes that there were only 24 people opposed to slavery but the point is that there were some. Were there plenty? I don't know how you'd define that. Did they have access to and influence on the drafters of the Constitution? The founding fathers were operating in the world that existed at the time. It's easy with hindsight to say they should've known better but none of us can know how we would have felt or behaved if we were alive back then. 

     

    This is ahistorical.  A ton of people thought it was wrong at the time and the framers were well aware of their arguments (and many sympathetic to them). However, slavery had made most of the framers very wealthy and they didn't want to give wealth up.

    This is from a speech by Edmund Burke in 1775:

     

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    There's tons of examples of people on both sides of the Atlantic (including black people) pointing out how ridiculous it was for our founders to compare their relationship to the king as slavery while themselves actually enslaving black people.  If you follow Adam Serwer, Jamelle Bouie, and Jane Coaston on Twitter they've been posting a lot of them.  

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  17. 32 minutes ago, Axiom of Choice said:

    I much prefer to discuss the topics you mentioned over politics; I'd be happy to talk about them whenever you like.  Start a thread, join one of the other threads I've started, or shoot me a PM.  But why does the fact that I mock a distinct posting style make you jump to the conclusion that I am a partisan hack or that I care to defend Trump?  I didn't vote for Trump, I don't like Trump, I don't like the Republicans, I won't vote for Trump in this next election.  Some will think otherwise merely because I object to this forum becoming little more than an extension of mindless validation-seeking twitter rants. The nonexistent hive on this forum categorizes anyone who does not passionately repeat the required dogma as a Trump supporter.  There is a simple assessment of one of us or not one of us, if anyone says something we don't like, then not one of us and therefore a Trump supporter and Republican partisan hack.  Posters will repeatably claim "I'm not a Republican and don't like Trump" and they will be met with "That's exactly what a closet Trump supporter would say," like you all are on some crazed witch hunt.  I've been accused of all sorts of atrocities and over the top nonsense because I don't always fall lockstep in line with the group think.  So have many other long time posters.  But you think I am the one who has descended as a poster. 

    You need more paragraph returns in here.

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