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  1. It seems like the conversation has shifted away from “recruit absolutely zero five star HS players” towards a discussion about the allocation of resources across HS recruits and transfer portal targets. I can get on board with a 70/30 or 80/20 portal/HS player model.

    That wasn’t the initial solution offered up, however.

  2. If I have time, I will do the same exercise for the top-10 transfer portal players for the same years.

    You are viewing this as binary when it’s not. You’re also falling victim to recency bias. For however long players are required to spend one year in college it will be worth taking a few swings at the elites.

    The contact rate is going to be low, but you don’t fully close the door to either pipeline of talent.
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    Way more often than not, these prima donna top-10 recruits are more trouble than they are worth during their one year rental.  And if anyone disagrees, go ahead and a bunch of top-10 freshman who have made an impact in March in the last 5 years.  And then I will list you 3X as many who didn't do anything.

    It seems like basketball recruiting is too much for you. Maybe just don’t follow it and wait for the season to start.
  4. Name one other school in the same spot that has refused to grant a kid from his NLI. I don’t think you can, and that’s because it’s recruiting suicide. Other programs would have a heyday if we did that.

    Beyond that, he could appeal and I’m sure the NCAA would let him out due to the coaching change. Players have the leverage here. I get that people wish they didn’t, but that’s just how it works.

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  5. I feel like I need to give you a sample from my bottle. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around cracking this with 9 friends who like good bourbon and every single one hating it. Every single person I know who’s had it at least liked it. 

    Sure. I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong. We still have that bottle somewhere so a side by side would be easy.
  6. I'm just naive enough to think my reaction to these negative events has no effect on them or any to come. So I'll wait to see who walks onto the court for the season's opening tip. 

    There is no place for that sort of pragmatism here. Please pick one end of the spectrum or the other, and then proceed with flinging shit at the end you don’t pick.
  7. I don't say this lightly but I'd honestly tell Holland tough shit on his NLI release. This sets a terrible precedence. It'd be different if he did it a month ago with the coaching change but this feels like a simple money grab flip. Impossible to manage a roster with people bailing this late

    You should pause to consider the long term implications of doing that. It would sink us with every other high profile recruit we’d approach going forward. It’s untenable.

    We’ve been in the era of player entitlement for awhile now. You just have to grit your teeth, accept it, and move on.
  8. Dropped $200 on the Jack 2022 Special Release at Deb’s. Worth it. 

    If I had three pours worse than that last year I’d be shocked. Almost undrinkable. And that was an opinion held by everyone in our group of 10.

  9. Rich loves Bardstown. 


    And:

    Still Austin
    Bookers/Little Book
    Barrell
    Remus Repeal
    Michter’s

    Not to mention all the usual suspects.

    I really only steer clear of Jack Daniel’s (the 12 year is good) and anything Elijah Craig.
  10. 1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    I don't think that's the particular issue with Bardstown right now. The "problem" is they are shelving almost their entire lineup at Spec's. There aren't one or two options. Closer to 8 or 9. Most in the $125-150 range. Which one do i pick? I'm not spending over $1000 to get them all. 

    Starting to notice whiskey brands mimicking the vodka world by offering too many products in order to dominate the shelf space. IMO it's not a well thought out plan. 

    A year or two ago, I would just by the newest Disco they dropped if I saw it on a shelf. Now I don't know what the hell to do. 

    And a year or two ago you were unlikely to find it more than 2-3 weeks after the drop. The "gotta catch em all" mentality definitely needs to be broken. That's the kind of shit that leads to all the hoarding and secondary market shenanigans. When it comes to Discovery, there is a finite amount of it they can make given that it's 100% sourced. So the line expansions of products that have comparable quality help to increase aggregate supply.

    You seem to view this as a problem, where I view it as ideal. Sure, you have to do a little bit of homework to figure out which one bottle to buy, but at least you have options. 

  11. Most bottles at that price point are "shelf turds" right now, but that's a byproduct of recessionary fears and a pull back in discretionary spending vs. the whiskey not being good.

    BTW, the shelf turd mindset only proves the argument for intentionally making a product scarce. People are such fucking sheep. If it's hard to find it's because everyone else wants it so it must be great, which only perpetuates something being hard to find. If there is plenty of supply, it must mean that people don't want it so it must be a turd and then it sits around. 

    Other than number 5, I've never had a Disco I didn't love.

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  12. Ha. You’re probably right. I’m surprised they went with a 95:5 mashbill. I was hoping for a more traditional, barely legal Kentucky rye. 
     
    The cherry wood finish is mildly interesting. Another try it before you buy it for me. 

    Isn’t it like a $50 bottle? What are we really worried about at that price point?
  13. 16 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

    He was good in that one private scrimmage you saw 4-5 months ago so we should ignore all evidence to the contrary? Evidence which consists of him sucking for literally the entire season minus a few decent games?

    This is a wild take. And that's really saying something on this board. Arterio was incomplete and inconsistent (as many freshman are) but he never full on sucked at any point this season. His defense was above average throughout the year and if we're grading his D on the standard freshman guard curve, it was damn near elite. The last time I checked, playing D was at least half of the job description, and his play on that end of the court never once approached sucking. His offensive game didn't match, but he also rarely received the kind of run he needed to get into the flow of the game. He essentially approached every game with the understanding that he'd have a 5-7 minute window to show if his shot was falling and potentially earn more play time based on having the hot hand. That's not an ideal scenario for optimal performance for any athlete. 

    I'd be super bummed to see him move on, as he seems likely to make a leap in year 2. 

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  14. Jesus Christ. This isn' that hard. The perception was that he wasn't good enough for the job before. New shit came to light and there is a solid chance that perception was wrong. While a vocal minority (and a bunch of trolls) are saying he's the wrong hire, most people (myself included) see the hire as rationale and defensible. 

    However, recency bias is a very real thing. Therefore, it's normal for people capable of critical thinking to point out that just MAYBE that original perception will be proven right.

    The net here is that most people understand the decision to hire RT, but there is no need to deny the fact that it carries a level of risk. Some folks that support the hire want to discuss that risk, which should be totally fine. 

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  15. 12 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    If you have valid criticisms then you should also be able to provide a legitimate candidate and not a wish list candidate. Everyone is all Tery this Terry that but provides absolutely no rebuttal to who else it should be. 

    There are two discreet points here that, while conceptually related, are not directly linked nor at odds with each other:

    Point 1 - Prior to this past season, there was nothing in Rodney Terry's job history or performance that would have resulted in him being a credible candidate for the head coaching job at the University of Texas. While that is technically a subjective statement, only the biggest of idiots would suggest that he would have received any consideration.

    Point 2 - Based on his body of work THIS SEASON, Rodney Terry was a credible candidate to be our next basketball coach and arguably the best/right choice given the lack of a "sure thing" candidate like Billy Donovan or Jay Wright.

    Both points can be and are true at the exact same time. What allows that to be case is the passage of time between the two reference points.

    Both points are also highly relevant as it relates to projecting Rodney Terry's future ability to build a successful program over an extended period of time. It's fair to project risk based on Rodney's previous stops as a head basketball coach. It's also fair to project optimism based on what we just saw play out this season. 

    Continuing to spam this board with the question of "well who would be a better choice?" is neither insightful nor helpful. 

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  16. 17 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

    You guys blindly defending Terry are gonna become the new Charlie Strong apologists after he crashes and burns the next few years.

    It's really quite comical to watch. If we had lost to Penn State, this program would be in much better shape and looking to hire a proven winner.

     

    That's the worst part about losing Chris Beard...it wasn't just a one time thing. The stage was set for Texas to be a national power in basketball for decades.

    There is nobody blindly defending Terry, regardless of how much you want that narrative to be true. The sentiment of the majority is that 1) there is no slam dunk hire available and 2) RT is as defensible a hire as any of the other flawed candidates that are actually available. Blindly supporting RT would entail saying we should hire him over Billy Donovan and/or saying he is absolutely destined for greatness. I don't see any of that happening. Almost everyone here is being an adult about where we are at and how we got here.

    And then there is you. 

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  17. Just now, Longhorn94 said:

    i hope he does well but am not impressed with the results. We were a top 8 team that finished in the top 8. At the very least, he met expectations with a team put together by Beard. I will give him credit for making the most of a difficult situation but how much of that was him vs 5th and 6th year players? I want the best for Texas and I hope RT is that guy but merely meeting expectations is not enough to me to give a career .500 coach the job. I hope I am wrong but just dont see it.

    How many of the other Top 8 teams finished Top 8?

  18. Folks saying that a 3yr contract is bad and 5yr is appropriate -- what about a 4yr contract??   On a compensation level, maybe CDC doesn't necessarily have to pay more than what Cronin and Buzz are paid  -- give RT more money for his assistant coaching staff.
     
    Found this...
    Top-10 Highest-Paid College Basketball Coaches in March, 2023
    1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million
    2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million
    3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million
    4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million
    5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million
    6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million
    7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million
    8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million
    9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million
    10. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million
     
    1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million
    john-calipari-2.webp
    John Calipari is the highest-paid coach in college basketball in 2023. The Hall of Famer’s salary of over $8 million per year means he earns over $2 million more than his nearest coaching colleague.
    Calipari is the top-paid coach in college basketball for good reason. He was hired by the Kentucky Wildcats in 2009, and since then has won a national championship, and has four Final Four appearances to his name. However, the last one came way back in 2015. Kentucky fans will be eager for more success in the NCAA tournament over the next few years.
    Calipari joined the Wildcats from Memphis where he guided the program to three consecutive Elite Eights, and a national championship game. However, Memphis was forced to vacate its national championship appearance. That wasn’t the first time NCAA violations caught up with Coach Cal. He also had to vacate a Final Four appearance in his first head coaching gig at Massachusetts.
    With that being said, Calipari’s tournament record is superb and it shows in his contract. Calipari’s success in the NCAA Tournament has helped him establish himself as one of the most successful coaches in college basketball history.
    2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million
    Coming in as the second-highest-paid coach in college basketball is Bill Self of Kansas. Self’s current contract is a rolling five-year deal that automatically adds an extra year to the agreement after each season. He signed this contract on March 31, 2021, after completing his 18th season as head coach.
    Self has had extraordinary success in his time with the Jayhawks. He has won two national championships, in 2008 and 2022. Additionally, he has helped Kansas reach the NCAA tournament in every year of his tenure. Included in that are ten Elite Eight and four Final Four appearances.
    Self was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2017 and is currently ranked 18th for most wins by a Division I college basketball coach.
    3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million
    Tom Izzo is now the longest-serving active coach on the same team in Division I men’s college basketball. Izzo has been the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans since 1995, and during his tenure, he has led the Spartans to eight Final Four appearances and one national championship.
    Izzo has also led the Spartans to six Big Ten Tournament championships and ten Big Ten regular season championships. His success in conference play has helped cement Michigan State’s status as one of the top programs in the country and has made Izzo one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.
    Izzo’s success at Michigan State has made him one of the most respected and accomplished coaches in college basketball, and his longevity with the Spartans is a testament to his dedication and success with the program.
    4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million
    Rick Barnes joined Tennessee in 2015 after previously coaching at Texas and Clemson. In 2022, Barnes signed a contract extension that will keep him at Tennessee through the 2026-2027 season. In the 2022-23 season, he was the highest-paid state employee in Tennessee with a salary of $5.45 million.
    Under Barnes’ leadership, Tennessee has made four  NCAA Tournament appearances. Their best run came in 2019 when the team reached the Sweet Sixteen. Barnes has also led the Volunteers to a regular-season SEC championship in 2018 and an SEC tournament championship in 2022.
    Overall, Barnes’ success throughout his career has made him a respected coach in the college basketball community and his time at Tennessee has helped elevate the profile of the Volunteers program.
    5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million
    Bruce Pearl joined Auburn in 2014 after previously coaching at Tennessee and Milwaukee. In 2022, he signed an eight-year deal worth over $50 million. Pearl’s $5.4 million salary in the 2022-23 season is enough to place him fifth in the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches.
    Under Pearl’s leadership, the Tigers have made several NCAA Tournament appearances, including a Final Four appearance in 2019.
    In addition to his success in the NCAA Tournament, Pearl has also led Auburn to several regular-season championships in the SEC. In 2022, the Tigers won the SEC Conference regular season championship for the second time under Pearl’s leadership, with a 24-6 overall record and a 14-4 record in conference play.
    Pearl is known for his high-energy coaching style and his ability to connect with his players, which has helped him build successful programs at multiple universities.
    Bruce Pearl’s success at Auburn has cemented his legacy as one of the top coaches in college basketball, and his leadership has helped position the Tigers as a consistent contender in the SEC and on the national stage.
    6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million
    Tony Bennett has been with UVA since 2009. During his tenure at Virginia, Bennett has established himself as one of the most respected coaches in college basketball, known for his defensive-minded approach to the game and his emphasis on teamwork and character.
    Under Bennett’s leadership, the Cavaliers have become one of the top programs in college basketball, with numerous NCAA Tournament appearances and a national championship in 2019. Bennett signed his seven-year deal with the Cavaliers the same year and rejected a raise after the team won the national championship.
    Bennett’s success at Virginia has earned him numerous accolades, including several ACC Coach of the Year awards and the Naismith Coach of the Year Award in 2018 and 2019.
    7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million
    Brad Underwood has quickly made his mark at Illinois, leading the team to several successful seasons and earning accolades such as the 2021 Big Ten Coach of the Year award after joining the program in 2017.
    Underwood has already led the Illini to a Big Ten tournament win. Additionally, he has won the Big Ten regular season championship in his first six seasons with the program. He will be keen to make a bigger impression in future NCAA tournaments, having only reached the round of 32 twice so far.
    He will have plenty of time to do so, having recently signed an extension that runs through the 2027/28 season.
    8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million
    Bob Huggins has had a long and successful coaching career, with over 900 career wins and several NCAA Tournament appearances, including two Final Four appearances in 1992 and 2010.
    Huggins had successful spells at Akron, Kansas State, and Cincinnati before heading to WVU in 2007. During his time at Cincinnati, Huggins led the Bearcats to 14 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances and a Final Four appearance in 1992. He also won nine conference championships during his tenure at Cincinnati.
    During his time at West Virginia, Huggins has led the Mountaineers to multiple NCAA Tournament appearances and one Final Four run in 2010. Additionally, Huggins has won multiple conference championships, including four regular-season titles and three conference tournament titles during his tenure at West Virginia.
    Huggins is known for his ability to get the most out of his players. He is also one of the most colorful coaches in college basketball, known for his unique fashion sense.
    His current contract with the Mountaineers runs through the end of the 2024 season.
    T9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million
    Mick Cronin has been with the UCLA Bruins since 2019. Prior to joining UCLA, Cronin coached at Cincinnati for 13 seasons, where he led the Bearcats to nine NCAA Tournament appearances and won four conference championships.
    Cronin’s emphasis on defense has helped him develop successful teams at both Cincinnati and UCLA, and his ability to connect with his players and motivate them to play at their best has made him one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.
    Under Cronin’s leadership, UCLA has quickly become a competitive program in the Pac-12 conference, making several deep runs in the NCAA Tournament, including a Final Four appearance in 2021.
    The Bruins look set for another deep run in this year’s March Madness tournament after winning the Pac-12 conference regular season championship. Top US sportsbooks believe they are among the favorites to win the national championship.
    T9. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million
    At 50 years old, Buzz Williams is the youngest head coach on our list of the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches. He has been at the Texas A&M Aggies since 2019. Prior to joining Texas A&M, Williams coached at Virginia Tech for five seasons, where he led the Hokies to three NCAA Tournament appearances and one Sweet Sixteen run.
    Williams is another coach known for his intense coaching style and energy on the sidelines. Under Williams’ leadership, Texas A&M has quickly become a competitive program in the SEC, making strides toward becoming a consistent contender in the conference.
    They will enter this year’s NCAA tournament with an impressive 25-8 record and will be looking to make a deep run
     
     

    Why are people hung up on the “safety” of a shorter contract to begin with? It makes almost no sense. Give him a deal that sends the right message to recruits and portal targets. In ~3 seasons we’ll know what we have. He’ll either get extended or fired, but at least he’ll start off Day 1 with the best chance to succeed.
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  19. I mean history is littered with examples of why you don't hire someone just because it feels good, or because it feels like you should. Just look at Hubert Davis recently.

    History is also filled with examples that prove hiring D1 coaches is hard in general. There are very few sure things, which is why coaches that fall into that bucket set the top of the market. There is no evidence that RT is being offered the job in lieu of a sure thing, while there is evidence that other credible D1 schools would be interested in hiring him if we didn’t.

    CDC used his option value period and made a reasonable call with the information he has. He had no reason to make a decision before the season ended and he collected a lot of additional data during the process. He got the most data on RT, while also getting data via the tournament on a bunch of alternative options. Time will tell how this plays out, but the data supports the decision.
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